EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

allahuACK-BAR allahuACK-BAR, insha-allah inshallah

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

allahuACK-BAR allahuACK-BAR, insha-allah inshallah

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

oh god

allahuACK-BAR allahuACK-BAR, insha-allah inshallah

ManMythLegend posted:

Speaking of Russia, War is Boring published an interesting article on the collapse of the Russian Navy which conflicts with some talk in the USN of a "renaissance" for ole' Ivan at Sea. I tend to side more with War is Boring on the issue, especially since the Rooskies precipitous economic collapse.

IPvSH6T posted:

The ships aren't the half of it. The soldiers aren't in the best shape either. Some fun quotes (albeit, as best I can tell, from work circa 2000, so a bit outdated) from Anna Politkovskaya!

Regarding Aleksandr Dikiy, captain of an Oscar-class submarine: "[his monthly rations] consist of two packets of shelled peas, two kilograms of buckwheat and rice in paper bags, two cans of the cheapest peas, two cans of Pacific herring, and a bottle of vegetable oil."

"Dikiy walks from his home to where the Vilioutchinsk is moored. It takes him precisely forty minutes. He walks not because the exercise is good for him but because, of course, he doesn't have the money for a car and because no other transportation is provided by the navy. The Second Flotilla, to which the Vilioutchinsk belongs, is in the throes of a fuel crisis, as indeed is the rest of Kamchatka. No cars or buses run to the jetties. The navy does not have enough gasoline in a country selling oil to all and sundry! But that is the least of it. What if the fleet runs out of bread? The garrison is constantly in debt to the local bread factory, which goes on supplying the ships on credit."

Referring to Valerii Dorogin, vice admiral of Kamchatka and commander of the Northeast Group of Troops and Forces, "his monthly salary as the officer responsible for an enormous territory and second in rank only to the governors of three major Russian provinces was 3,600 rubles, or just over $100. In reality, because of his pension, which he paid up long ago, he receives just under 5,000 rubles a month. By way of comparison, a city bus driver in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatky earns 6,000 rubles a month. Dorogin lives in a military apartment on Morskaya Street, in exactly the same conditions as the other officers. There is no hot water, and it cold, drafty, and uncomfortable."

Russia is great.

IPvSH6T posted:

The ships aren't the half of it. The soldiers aren't in the best shape either. Some fun quotes (albeit, as best I can tell, from work circa 2000, so a bit outdated) from Anna Politkovskaya!

Regarding Aleksandr Dikiy, captain of an Oscar-class submarine: "[his monthly rations] consist of two packets of shelled peas, two kilograms of buckwheat and rice in paper bags, two cans of the cheapest peas, two cans of Pacific herring, and a bottle of vegetable oil."

"Dikiy walks from his home to where the Vilioutchinsk is moored. It takes him precisely forty minutes. He walks not because the exercise is good for him but because, of course, he doesn't have the money for a car and because no other transportation is provided by the navy. The Second Flotilla, to which the Vilioutchinsk belongs, is in the throes of a fuel crisis, as indeed is the rest of Kamchatka. No cars or buses run to the jetties. The navy does not have enough gasoline in a country selling oil to all and sundry! But that is the least of it. What if the fleet runs out of bread? The garrison is constantly in debt to the local bread factory, which goes on supplying the ships on credit.

Russia is great.

IPvSH6T posted:

The ships aren't the half of it. The soldiers aren't in the best shape either. Some fun quotes (albeit, as best I can tell, from work circa 2000, so a bit outdated) from Anna Politkovskaya!

Regarding Aleksandr Dikiy, captain of an Oscar-class submarine: "[his monthly rations] consist of two packets of shelled peas, two kilograms of buckwheat and rice in paper bags, two cans of the cheapest peas, two cans of Pacific herring, and a bottle of vegetable oil."

"Dikiy walks from his home to where the Vilioutchinsk is moored. It takes him precisely forty minutes. He walks not because the exercise is good for him but because, of course, he doesn't have the money for a car and because no other transportation is provided by the navy. The Second Flotilla, to which the Vilioutchinsk belongs, is in the throes of a fuel crisis, as indeed is the rest of Kamchatka. No cars or buses run to the jetties. The navy does not have enough gasoline in a country selling oil to all and sundry! But that is the least of it. What if the fleet runs out of bread? The garrison is constantly in debt to the local bread factory, which goes on supplying the ships on credit."

Referring to Valerii Dorogin, vice admiral of Kamchatka and commander of the Northeast Group of Troops and Forces, "his monthly salary as the officer responsible for an enormous territory and second in rank only to the governors of three major Russian provinces was 3,600 rubles, or just over $100. In reality, because of his pension, which he paid up long ago, he receives just under 5,000 rubles a month. By way of comparison, a city bus driver in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatky earns 6,000 rubles a month. Dorogin lives in a military apartment on Morskaya Street, in exactly the same conditions as the other officers. There is no hot water, and it cold, drafty, and uncomfortable."

Russia is great.

Willy Pete posted:

It's only a matter of time before they go all lord of the flies. Then start killing each other for tooth fillings and eating each other.

kalstrams posted:

... today russian federal drug control service got hacked and all files are now floating errywhere, including list of people who used anonymous hotline, including their pictures?

e: it's this level of bad

IPvSH6T posted:

It's actually worse/sadder. The parts that I did not quote were the officers in question talking about how, yeah, poo poo is hosed--I and my wife have academic backgrounds that would net us six figures working for tech firms in the US and we have basically no food, and there's no future for our children here, but we'll loving deal, we protect the rodina mat'.

Willy Pete posted:

It's only a matter of time before they go all lord of the flies. Then start killing each other for tooth fillings and eating each other.

wikipedia posted:

They were trying to escape. They asked us "Where's the railway?" We'd never seen a railway. They asked "Where's Moscow? Leningrad?" They were asking the wrong people: we'd never heard of those places. We're Ostyaks. People were running away starving. They were given a handful of flour. They mixed it with water and drank it and then they immediately got diarrhea. The things we saw! People were dying everywhere; they were killing each other.... On the island there was a guard named Kostia Venikov, a young fellow. He was courting a pretty girl who had been sent there. He protected her. One day he had to be away for a while, and he told one of his comrades, "Take care of her," but with all the people there the comrade couldn't do much.... People caught the girl, tied her to a poplar tree, cut off her breasts, her muscles, everything they could eat, everything, everything.... They were hungry, they had to eat. When Kostia came back, she was still alive. He tried to save her, but she had lost too much blood.

ManMythLegend posted:

Did it improve any with the increase of oil money over the last decade?

IPvSH6T posted:

Dunno; I'd like to think so. The journalist that did the reporting on the original story was murdered so welp.

orange juche posted:

It likely did not, Russia is crammed to the gills with obvious corruption, graft, and cronyism; their military is probably still just as hosed, if not in a worse state.

GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

Russia, historically, has had to fight so god drat hard to maintain ports

If their Navy is in such godawful condition how could anybody in the West possibly take their sabre-rattling seriously

quote:

“Tonight, I call on this Congress to show the world that we are united in this mission by passing a resolution to authorize the use of force against ISIL.” Obama said -- his strongest terms to date.

Full Battle Rattle posted:

orange juche posted:

I also like how he said we will unilaterally prosecute ISIL wherever they hide, which means we will continue shooting muds in the head with high-powered sniper rifles, and possibly step up our droning of weddings and the funerals that follow.

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

"I'm going to dump an even bigger poo poo sandwich on my successor than the one I got from my predecessor."

not caring here posted:

Maybe we should just say gently caress it and send a portion of the war budget to the brits so they can keep going with their SAS four wheeler drive bys. They seem to be a lot better at this war thing than us.

Well, until it comes time to drop an ungodly amount of bombs on them, we're pretty good at that still.

orange juche posted:

Lend-Lease worked out pretty well, better than any of our other programs to finance foreign armies.

We need to just institute something like the French Foreign Legion to go stomp in shitholes that noone from the US wants to put their feet in. Want citizenship in the US? Sure! Just sign on the line, go through some rediculously difficult indoctrination and training, where we also take your visas away from you so you can't run away, and then go slog through the worst shitholes in the world for 10 years.

maffew buildings posted:

Jesus gently caress why didn't I just go join the Legion

Full Battle Rattle posted:

I really don't understand what he means. We're already using force against ISIS.

WarpedNaba posted:

It's hard to piss on corpses when you're 1,500 metres above them.

Mike-o posted:

because you don't like getting your poo poo pushed in by mostly large hairy slavic men?

maffew buildings posted:

I was focusing on the positives, like being a part of a proud fighting force of criminals that exists solely to go wax people left and right, not the Slavic criminal element rape part. Thankfully joining the Legion requires getting to France and I was far too drunken at the time in my life to manage that