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Legit question: do you feel it is the history of the word (having been used to refer specifically to the mentally challenged) that is the problem, or the fact of any word indicating lesser intelligence being a slur?
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what about saying someone was/is monged out? can we still say that?
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Jan 21, 2015 22:25
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JFairfax posted:what about saying someone was/is monged out? can we still say that? yeah why not
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Jan 21, 2015 22:26
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JFairfax posted:what about saying someone was/is monged out? can we still say that? I wouldn't.
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Jan 21, 2015 22:27
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stickyfngrdboy posted:yeah why not Gonzo McFee posted:I wouldn't. hmmm a thorny issue indeed
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Jan 21, 2015 22:28
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Speaking as a personal carer I'd advise against saying any of the classic insults against the disabled because they're generally nice people whom it really hurts when those words are heard or hurled against them. You've never quite felt as utterly ashamed of humanity as you will when you sit in a room full of people who talk about how they've been abused physically and mentally throughout their lives because their disabilities mean that it's easy for people to get away with it. 
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Jan 21, 2015 22:34
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I still call people joey when they've been stupid and that's down to blue Peter that one time. Moron is fairly tame though, I don't think anyone would get really offended by it, would they?
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Jan 21, 2015 22:41
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For goons worried about whether their attempts to cause offence are causing offence, please see below for a handy guide of Correct insults you can deploy with a clear conscience: -Kulak -Bourgeoise -Trot -Rootless Cosmopolitan
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Jan 21, 2015 22:44
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I think you should say it as you see it... we should start calling people with odious or asinine ideas Farages or possibly Gervaises.
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Jan 21, 2015 22:45
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Is it reasonable to insult non learning disabled people for doing something stupid by calling them a moron/cretin etc? I would never insult a learning disabled person for BEING learning disabled (why the heck would you, it's not like they can control it?? but then I'm not a fucktard) but of some presumably average functioning idiot has just performed a dangerous driving manoeuvre, or dropped a brick on your foot, or hit themselves in the eye with a spanner and you want to point out their stupidity... basically is it OK to call someone stupid, using a word other than stupid? Then again, even as a very feminist lady, I still call people twats all the time despite the 'connotations' of the word. I am clearly a terrible person.
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Jan 21, 2015 22:47
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Renaissance Robot posted:Legit question: do you feel it is the history of the word (having been used to refer specifically to the mentally challenged) that is the problem, or the fact of any word indicating lesser intelligence being a slur? Pretty much both. Remember that "moron" is the word that "retarded" replaced.
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Jan 21, 2015 22:48
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kapparomeo posted:-Rootless Cosmopolitan Only to be used if a poster is a confirmed member of the unofficial list of board 'rootless cosmopolitans'.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:I still call people joey when they've been stupid and that's down to blue Peter that one time. Think it's context in this case. Guy calls person with learning difficulties a moron, person takes it as an insult against their learning difficulty and the guy responds by linking to the dictionary to prove it wasn't, which is just patronising as gently caress. Moron is fine in the right context.
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Jan 21, 2015 22:50
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Do people still use 'flid'?
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Jan 21, 2015 22:54
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Pissflaps posted:Do people still use 'flid'? "unarmed and dangerous" http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1289414/ We used to rent this from the blockbuster store I worked at.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:01
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Robot Mil posted:I would never insult a learning disabled person for BEING learning disabled (why the heck would you, it's not like they can control it?? but then I'm not a fucktard)  I see the thread is back onto the topic of "what's an offensive word or not", and just in time to derail the infinitely more interesting topic of economics and everything that's wrong with it. Well done thread, have a gold sticker. 
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Jan 21, 2015 23:03
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KKKlean Energy posted:
You can still talk about economics, if you want to.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:05
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Purple & Gold is the New Green Benefits claimants should have their driving licences suspended to ease up traffic on Britain's roads, according to one Ukip candidate in the 2015 general election. Lynton Yates, the party's hopeful in Charnwood, Leicestershire, also thinks cyclists should be forced to ride on the pavement and give way to pedestrians. Mr Yates outlines his policies in a leaflet distributed in the area, under a heading describing them as a 'Ukip response' to traffic congestion. The leaflet reads: "As much as I applaud cycling as a form of exercise and past-time [sic] the already congested roads cannot cope with both bus lanes AND cyclists. "Cycles should go back to the pavements yet give priority to pedestrians." It continues: "We could likely remove six million cars from the roads if benefits claimants were not driving. Why do they have the privilege to spend the tax payers' hard earned money on a car, when those in work are struggling to keep their own car on the road? These people really could catch a bus." http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ban-unemployed-roads-ease-congestion-5017896
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Jan 21, 2015 23:09
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Given it's Charnwood – where the BNP still have councillors – he might win too. 
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Jan 21, 2015 23:13
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JFairfax posted:Purple & Gold is the New Green lmao
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Jan 21, 2015 23:27
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Prince John posted:This is just mind boggling if it's true. I mean, is the IMF, the ECB and the Treasury not stuffed full of economists? Are they all unaware of the academic consensus? They're mostly managed by lawyers and politicians with their own agendas rather than honest people with a proven academic knowledge of Economics.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:28
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Although it must be said that central bankers apart from the ECB have been better on this stuff. A lot of the better central bankers had spent a lot of time analysing the Japanese example before the credit crisis started, particularly Bernanke.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:30
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Oberleutnant posted:lmao JFairfax posted:It continues: "We could likely remove six million I wonder where he got that idea from...
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Jan 21, 2015 23:32
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Apparently mongloid is something you should never say in italian as well as english, Future advice for you guys.
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Jan 22, 2015 00:26
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Page 3 is back in tomorrow's Sun, to the surprise of no-one.
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Jan 22, 2015 00:31
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Are they supporting #freethenipple then?
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Jan 22, 2015 00:46
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Are they supporting #freethenipple then? Considering said Page 3 girl is in the Clarifications & Corrections column, it's probably a troll. Or a publicity stunt. Or, most likely, both.
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Jan 22, 2015 01:00
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Christ, The Times is bringing out the tit puns
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Jan 22, 2015 01:05
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If rupe's broadsheet piece is that bad just think what the actual Sun will be running. Probably a remake of THIS IS ARE BRITAIN with the map covered in tits from past page 3s. Just the tits
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Jan 22, 2015 01:17
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Thank god our national nightmare is over
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Jan 22, 2015 01:57
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Anyone have a who did and didn't list of post-Soviet countries that accepted or turned down IMF austerity loans? Would like to have a quick reference to match up with who's doing better now for arguments.
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Jan 22, 2015 03:24
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JFairfax posted:what about saying someone was/is monged out? can we still say that? I haven't been called that since secondary school, ah, memories. Edit: Also I think that was also the last time I heard someone say they got Jewed out of their money. I went to a good school.
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So the newest and greatest suggestion from a UKIP candidate... Ban the jobless from driving, it will clear up congestion on our roads. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11361505/Ban-the-jobless-from-driving-to-ease-congestion-Ukip-candidate-says.html I'm not even mad, it's just so ridiculous.
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Mega Comrade posted:So the newest and greatest suggestion from a UKIP candidate... I don't know why but I can't wait for this to get reported in the Mail so I can see all the UKIP apologists defend this policy (many of the commenters on the DM see every UKIP article as a hatchet job, so they get super-defensive)
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Jan 22, 2015 10:19
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Mega Comrade posted:So the newest and greatest suggestion from a UKIP candidate... Bloody immigrants/jobless/disabled, clogging up our roads!  Meanwhile, let me tell you why anyone taking the bus over the age of 26 can consider themselves a failure
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Jan 22, 2015 10:34
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Mega Comrade posted:So the newest and greatest suggestion from a UKIP candidate... 
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Jan 22, 2015 10:34
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His sign off at the end of the letter is the best bit "Yet again we're proposing common sense policies and common sense solutions."
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Rolled Cabbage posted:I think you should say it as you see it... we should start calling people with odious or asinine ideas Farages or possibly Gervaises. You Cameron. You complete and total loving Gove.
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Mega Comrade posted:So the newest and greatest suggestion from a UKIP candidate... There was a law in Elizabethan times, The Poor Law I think, where people who were supported by their local authority weren't allowed to travel outside of their parish or they would get put in the stocks. Googled it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Poor_Laws.
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