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Lorini posted:I just bought the Machi Kuro Harbor expansion and the cards don't match what IDW put out as the Machi Kuro original. Now the place that I bought them from is run by an attorney, so I suppose if I took the Findlaw site to him he'd have to accept the return back. HOWEVER, he could say that the game is still playable and therefore is not defective, and therefore his clearly posted refund policy (where you can only return unopened merchandise for a week after buying it) would apply. This is also true. Also if any goons are actually knowledgeable about these kinds of laws by all means post here or whatever because I'm having a poo poo time finding actual sources 
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Lorini posted:I just bought the Machi Kuro Harbor expansion and the cards don't match what IDW put out as the Machi Kuro original. Wait what's the issue with them now? Also goddamn, why does IDW suck at printing cards so much? I remember the original Machi Koro release had a bunch of defective cards too.
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Speaking of IDW and their incredibly rocky start launching games, has anyone had a chance to play their new X-Files Board Game that released last week? I'm the kind of sucker who will probably buy it sight unseen thanks to the theme, but early discussion around it hasn't sounded super positive.
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Yeah, I bought the last of the game they had in stock and I had already checked cards to make sure they were missing and that I didn't just gently caress some deckmaking up, so I was like halfway there. Rather count card for an hour than wait an extra 3 days for the game because they order the replacement cards for me. Oh well, they already replied to my mail, the only painful thing is going to be the US -> Sweden shipping and the fact that I'm traveling to the US in 2 weeks and might not get to play before that.
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Merauder posted:Speaking of IDW and their incredibly rocky start launching games, has anyone had a chance to play their new X-Files Board Game that released last week? I'm the kind of sucker who will probably buy it sight unseen thanks to the theme, but early discussion around it hasn't sounded super positive. what's this 
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The board game is probably terrible, but apparently a new X-Files show has been approved.
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T-Bone posted:what's this They announced it about a year ago, at or right before the GAMA Trade Show (they had the actor who played Langley from the Lone Gunmen in tow at GAMA, it was cool), and then it hit non-stop delays and all the hype around it has kind of fell through everywhere it seems. It was supposed to be released before GenCon, but even at GenCon they only had a prototype copy at their booth, nothing final or playable yet. So it's finally here now, and I haven't had a chance to pick it up but intend to... just curious if any of this community has tried it since folks here are the most discerning of anyone I've seen anywhere. 
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Sistergodiva posted:Yeah, I bought the last of the game they had in stock and I had already checked cards to make sure they were missing and that I didn't just gently caress some deckmaking up, so I was like halfway there. Rather count card for an hour than wait an extra 3 days for the game because they order the replacement cards for me. Exactly how many cards are you missing? Do you have enough of those double-sided blanks to maybe paste up some proxies so you can at least get to play?
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Scyther posted:Exactly how many cards are you missing? Do you have enough of those double-sided blanks to maybe paste up some proxies so you can at least get to play? Location x4 Grunt x15 Strike Deck: Double Slash x1 Contaminated Wound x1 Deep Gash x1 Drone Deck: Facehugger Event x2 Cornered Scientist x1 Ambushed Medic x1 Xenomorph Stalker x1 Acid-Spray Xenomorph x1 Camouflaged Xenomorph x1 Noxious Xenomorph x1 Meddlesome Xenomorph x1 Objectives Objective 1: Breakout Where are the Brothers? Objective 2: The Beast is out there You're a thing. A construct. Objective 3: Nobody can stop it She'll breed. You'll die. Hive Decks The Lost Colony: Hazard Colonist Host x1 Xenomorph Swarmer x1 The S.O.S: Hazard Breakout: Hazard Xenomorph Clone x1 Containment Cell x1 Where are the Brothers?: Hazard Missing Brother X2 No one can hear you scream: Hazard Jonesy Ventilation Seal Skittering Xenomorph x1 Shedding-Skin Xenomorph x1 They mostly come at night: Hazard Newt Acid-Blood Xenomorph x1 The beast is out there: Hazard Bishop's Head Armored Xenomorph x1 You're a thing. A construct.: Hazard Xenomorph Swimmer x1 Salivating Xenomorph x1 The perfect organism: Hazard Airlock Controls Ash The perfect organism Xenomorph Lance-tail x1 Who's laying the eggs?: Hazard Carter Burke The Queen Nobody can stop it: Hazard Michael Weyland The Beast The lead works Blood-Scent Xenomorph x1 She'll breed. You'll die: Hazard The Newborn The cloned queen Larry Purvis Dr. Wren Xenomorph Spitter x1 Cloned Facehugger x1 Character Decks Johner: Thermos Gun Incinerator Flamer x1 Ripley No. 8: The monster's mother Grown in a lab x1 Christie: Gun for hire Kawlang Maneuver x1 Call: Interface with Fa-th-ur Unlikely Allies x1 Sister Ripley: Ultimate Sacrifice Whatever it takes x1 CMO Clemens: Autopsy x1 Brother Dillion: I wanna get this thing x1 Francis "85" Aaron: Internal Exam x1 Private Hudson: Body Armor x1 Lieutenant Ripley: Ripley Enraged x1 Corporal Hicks: Weapon Training x1 Bishop: Knife games x1 Chief Engineer Parker: Electric prod x1 Navigator Lambert: Review the nav data x1 Warrant Officer Ripley: You are my lucky star x1 Captain Dallas: Teams of Three x1 I have probably like 50 blank cards, but trying to find a picture of all those cards and then printing them, pasting them good enough not to make them obvious in a pile seems like a lot of work. How good does that kind of stuff work? I guess I could just get the first 3 objective decks and the recommended character decks filled out and get to play a game.
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Sistergodiva posted:Missing: the whole loving game Jesus Christ Fungah! fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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The End posted:Yeah, it seems like there isn't an equivalent of the ACCC for US businesses and consumers. A shame really, their website is a great resource. ftc.gov for US.
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GrandpaPants posted:Wait what's the issue with them now? The expansion cards are shorter and narrower. Which wouldn't be a problem, except that in the expansion you actually shuffle all the cards together, meaning that it's nearly impossible to riffle shuffle the cards.
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Lorini posted:The expansion cards are shorter and narrower. Which wouldn't be a problem, except that in the expansion you actually shuffle all the cards together, meaning that it's nearly impossible to riffle shuffle the cards. Haha I just looked at the BGG thread and holy poo poo  I see that they've learned exactly 0 lessons from the quality control issues during their first printing.
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Lorini posted:ftc.gov for US. AKA the people who couldn't pin fraud on Butterfly loving Labs.
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Fungah! posted:Jesus Christ Yeah, gonna go out on a limb and guess a whole deck or two is completely missing.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:Now you make me think an Archipelago style game concerning the Beagle channel conflict needs to be made. Well, you could always introduce your group to Diplomacy but Latin American countries instead. A little late, but why not go full Tropico and procure a copy of Junta?
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Sistergodiva posted:Yeah, gonna go out on a limb and guess a whole deck or two is completely missing. I didn't have any missing cards in my set of Encounters, but I did have 12 miscut cards. They had part of another card along the left side. I emailed QA@upperdeck.com with a list of the affected cards and an example photo. It took them a few days to get back with me, but they are sending replacements. It looks like you're missing over 50 cards, so they might handle it a little differently. At least that's the threshold listed on their website. Either way, they quoted 2-4 weeks shipping time. I had opaque backed lime green sleeves for my cards, so using them till I get replacements wasn't a big deal.
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Sistergodiva posted:Yeah, gonna go out on a limb and guess a whole deck or two is completely missing. I'm honestly a little shocked at how bad their QC is, there's something like a hundred missing cards in there. That's pretty hosed up!
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The Pathfinder Adventure Card Game has noticeably different colored backs between the first and second edition printings. When I called Paizo to ask if they could do an exchange for the one adventure pack in my set which was a different edition, they basically told me to use sleeves even though I offered to pay for shipping. This was after not responding to my emails for 3 weeks with picture proof and proof of purchase.
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Scyther posted:Unfortunately on top of having the cards sorted in the least helpful way possible, Upper Deck has a seemingly bad record of cards missing across their entire line of Legendary games and expansions. I've heard so many stories of missing cards but I've been lucky enough myself that my Legendary stuff has been mostly complete, I was missing one card from Villains but that seems to be it. Their support people were helpful and the card shipped in a reasonable time, but you would think a company that started out in CCGs would be able to get their poo poo together. My friend bought every Legendary game and expansion and we didn't have a problem until... When we placed the order including Legendary Villains, store had ran out of the Mayday sleeves he was buying for it, so we played other stuff until those are in stock. We got the sleeves in the next order, so he opened his game's shrink wrap, started sleeving the cards so we can play it that weekend and realized a card from Rogue's deck was missing. He mailed Upperdeck for it and they demanded an invoice proving the purchase was made in the last 90 days. We mailed the store to ask what can be done about it since its been more than 90 days due to the sleeve shortage, and there hasn't been any progress since. I normally just add a photo of my games' barcode when I'm requesting a replacement and aside Kemet guys totally ignoring my misprinted victory tile replacemenent request (which I fixed by applying photocopy stickers on) this is the first time we are having a replacement issue.
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Did anyone post this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elanlee/exploding-kittens Basic card drawing russian roulette game. Wacky Internet humour. Illustrated by the Oatmeal. Goal $10 K. So far $2.5 M. 28 days to go.
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Amoeba102 posted:Did anyone post this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elanlee/exploding-kittens
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Yeah, knows how to sell to the internet crowd that's for sure.
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Amoeba102 posted:Yeah, knows how to sell to the internet crowd that's for sure.
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My Cards Against Humanity loving friends asked our group if there was interest in it. So yeah, I know people who will like it.
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Sistergodiva posted:Yeah, gonna go out on a limb and guess a whole deck or two is completely missing. Yeah, with the crazy way they packed up the cards (i.e. decks were shuffled together without any order whatsoever), that looks like a you're missing 2 of the 7-8 the game came with.
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I like how highly strategic is just some kind of buzzword now in a lot of Kickstarters.
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The two funniest things about that kickstarter: 1. Their first playtest was last week. 2. Having recieved two MILLION dollars they rewarded people with exactly the kind of stretch goal a player-eliminating game sold as being "more fun the closer to the end you are" needs: more cards, for a longer playtime. Only for the higher cost pledge of course. Tekopo posted:I like how highly strategic is just some kind of buzzword now in a lot of Kickstarters. everything is the perfect combination of luck and skill also easy to learn but difficult to master I was also pretty confused when their video said you'd have to form strategies and choose who to target, because I can't see any reason to target one person over another nor any reliable way of doing so besides "sit to their right". Bubble-T fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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Archenteron posted:A little late, but why not go full Tropico and procure a copy of Junta? Junta is a fun game with a play time of 90 minutes. Unfortunately, games last four hours. Still, I have a friend who likes it, so he has a copy of Junta and I had a £20 note for a while.
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You could probably build an algorithm to play that game.pre:IF you have See in the Future THEN play it
IF exploding kitten is NEXT card, THEN play Skip
ELSE IF exploding kitten is in NEXT two cards, THEN play attack
ELSE don't play any other cards
ELSE IF you don't have any Defuse cards, play Skip/Attack
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Hopefully their extensive week of rigorous playtesting will be enough to make these 56 cards and zero additional components worth the $20 price tag.Tekopo posted:You could probably build an algorithm to play that game. You probably need a line saying not to play See the Future if you don't have any Skips/Attacks/Shuffles, but yeah pretty much.
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Playtesting a week out from release would explain a lot about video game design.
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Tekopo posted:You could probably build an algorithm to play that game. Considering the comic it's based off of was designed by a marketeer, practically by algorithm, to be as viral and have as much Internet-ism as possible, that is hardly surprising.
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sigh I can't even muster the words, really. Nothing can appropriate express my despondence that I will never reach a level of success as some shithead who scribbles clickbait of fat people rolling in poo poo and screaming.
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Broken Loose posted:sigh Well if anything this kickstarter proves that you can - you just have to befriend one and get their legion of fans to buy your game
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Broken Loose posted:sigh Take solace in the fact that although you'll probably not even make one percent of the money, you'll get mocked here at least half as much with about three quarters of the sincerity.
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