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Phrasing posted:Hired! Doing my on-boarding right now. Federal service likes its acronyms doesn't it?  part of my training material from my first day on the job (maybe a dozen pages with pretty small type single spaced)
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Also I would love to discuss how Delayed Reaction can get back into an AKO account but I have absolutely no idea what that means. Better get out the invisible-ink pen. People think I am some sort of wizard for not writing down my passwords at work (though I only [only] have about nine different systems I use regularly enough for it to matter). Little do they know I pretty much Usual Suspects it and have my passwords functionally written down without anyone ever knowing. Now, we wait to see how long it takes someone to break my undefeatable password EN0RM0USBAG0FRUBB#RB4NDS
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Man_of_Teflon posted:
This can't be real! Bwahaha.
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Phrasing posted:This can't be real! Bwahaha. You're new to federal employment, right? Oh man... I have an acronym guide like that for 3 or 4 of the defense acquisitions programs I've been on, and that's just the contractor side of things, not even the gov side.
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Justus posted:You're new to federal employment, right? Oh man... It's fun when you work a joint program of programs and have to deal with everyone's acronyms. Oh and Homeland Security too. And NASA... At that point just nod your head and pretend to understand, the person speaking probably has no idea what they are talking about anyway. Or you could just make up acronyms and see if anyone calls you on it. Actually, I am pretty sure I know someone who has risen through the ranks doing just that. As to AKO I have been locked out for a long time now and it says I need to contact the help desk for a reactivation. But then again I don't work for the Army and almost never need to use AKO these days. So it has worked out well for everyone.
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Quarex posted:People think I am some sort of wizard for not writing down my passwords at work (though I only [only] have about nine different systems I use regularly enough for it to matter). Little do they know I pretty much Usual Suspects it and have my passwords functionally written down without anyone ever knowing I have a piece of paper taped to my desk right in front of my monitor with a bunch of logins and passwords on it. IT can go gently caress themselves if they give me poo poo about it. It's mostly the harder to remember ones that have weird requirements. Surprisingly, (or maybe not) the ones requiring the most complicated passwords are generally not the ones that have anything important or sensitive about them. Most of the important ones have the same password and I just rotate the ending every 3 months so it's not too hard to remember even when some of them are off-cycle relative to each other. The most complicated login I have? To put in my hours worked. I guess we're really concerned about North Korean hackers giving me some extra overtime. I think the second most difficult one is to register for training.
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Well I've begun my federal job search in earnest. I finish my peace corps service in two months and am trying to flex my noncompetitive status to get myself a job in DC. USAJOBS seems to be a shot in the dark. Keep on getting qualified, but not referred. Hopefully the peace corps career portal will have better luck for me.
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Acronymchat: In my work with AFGE, I have to say that of all the agencies this union deals with, the Marine Corps is the most acronym happy. MCB, MCI-E, MCCS, 1MEF, HRO, LMP... it goes on and on, followed by the rest of the DoD.
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Kase Im Licht posted:I have a piece of paper taped to my desk right in front of my monitor with a bunch of logins and passwords on it. IT can go gently caress themselves if they give me poo poo about it. It's mostly the harder to remember ones that have weird requirements. Surprisingly, (or maybe not) the ones requiring the most complicated passwords are generally not the ones that have anything important or sensitive about them. Most of the important ones have the same password and I just rotate the ending every 3 months so it's not too hard to remember even when some of them are off-cycle relative to each other. The most complicated login I have? To put in my hours worked. I guess we're really concerned about North Korean hackers giving me some extra overtime. I think the second most difficult one is to register for training. Though I suppose in unimportant systems' defense the other two timesheets (other two timesheets) we use do not even have passwords. And the first timesheet has actually begun working just based on us having swiped our badge through our keyboard card reader as of the last month, rather than requiring that obnoxious password. Progress~!
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My agency must be behind the times... we were using paper forms until late last year, and you can access the web-based time keeping anytime you are logged onto your computer without further questioning.
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Beerdeer posted:Your SF-50? There is a place on the announcement checklist that says SF-50. I'm just confused as to whether that and Proof of Eligibility are the same thing. I've been told I have to obtain this from about 5 different places including my boss (no way I can do that) and HR. I was hoping it would be easy to get and perhaps just be a document I could download from somewhere. I've already submitted the application and the announcement is closed now, so it may be too late for this job but I definitely need it for any I will apply to in the future. Thanks for your help!! Here is part of the job announcement that I copied from USAjobs: Proof of Eligibility to Apply: Your application must include the documents which prove you are eligible to apply for the vacancy. The “Proof of Eligibility” document describes authorities commonly used in merit promotion recruitment and what document(s) are required to prove you meet the requirements of the authority. You must meet the requirements of at least one of the authorities listed in the Who May Apply section above to receive further consideration. Where do I get my SF-50?
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Delayed Reaction posted:There is a place on the announcement checklist that says SF-50. I'm just confused as to whether that and Proof of Eligibility are the same thing. I've been told I have to obtain this from about 5 different places including my boss (no way I can do that) and HR. I was hoping it would be easy to get and perhaps just be a document I could download from somewhere. I've already submitted the application and the announcement is closed now, so it may be too late for this job but I definitely need it for any I will apply to in the future. Thanks for your help!! There's a couple of places you should be able to get it. Some agencies have their own repository. My agency's official repository for SF-50s is eOPF, but I personally find it way easier to get it off of Civilian Personnel Online (CPOL). That might just be for the DoD. If all else fails, you can send for it by snail mail. According to OPM's website: OPM's FAQ posted:Contact your former agency personnel office, if recently separated. Otherwise, send your request to:
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Has anyone heard anything about the CIS positions at the new crystal city center? Have they started selecting people yet? My wife has already done the writing test (I believe the last step);but the pace of governmental hiring is freaking her out.
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Network42 posted:Has anyone heard anything about the CIS positions at the new crystal city center? Have they started selecting people yet? My wife has already done the writing test (I believe the last step);but the pace of governmental hiring is freaking her out. To expand: They started hiring from the moment they made the announcement of the executive action, and the hiring is undoubtedly ongoing for months though I imagine they have already gotten a lot of the basic staff they are going to need to get going ... well, I mean, as far as I can tell, they have not actually HIRED anyone yet, but several of my Vermont Service Center co-workers got the "OK we probably want you, hold on" message. But ... yes. The pace of hiring is worrying even in the nearly-best-case scenario. It was 7 months from my application to my job offer (nearly 9 if you only count it as a real offer if they give you a start date, haha). But the Crystal City thing is probably going to be hiring on an accelerated schedule assuming the Republicans do not invoke the forgotten 1848 Shire Landsknecht Abrogation Law Takebacksies Screed and somehow stall the hiring, in lieu of being able to actually stop the program.
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Quarex posted:Yes, yes, understandable. Isn't DHS going to run out of funding in March? Could be impacting hiring if they're conserving operational funds or something.
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sullat posted:Isn't DHS going to run out of funding in March? Could be impacting hiring if they're conserving operational funds or something.
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Justus posted:There's a couple of places you should be able to get it. Some agencies have their own repository. My agency's official repository for SF-50s is eOPF, but I personally find it way easier to get it off of Civilian Personnel Online (CPOL). That might just be for the DoD. Thank you so much Justus and everyone else who helped me find the document I need. I have it now and can finally attach it to my applications. Hopefully soon I'll have a different (and better!) job on base 
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Delayed Reaction posted:Thank you so much Justus and everyone else who helped me find the document I need. I have it now and can finally attach it to my applications. Hopefully soon I'll have a different (and better!) job on base no problem. One more thing though. Even if the announcement is already closed, you may still be able to amend your application. See if you can get in touch with whatever HR is involved. It might not be too late to salvage your application.
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Justus posted:no problem. One more thing though. Even if the announcement is already closed, you may still be able to amend your application. See if you can get in touch with whatever HR is involved. It might not be too late to salvage your application.  I'm not sure if it is because I didn't have that document in time or what. I'm pretty bummed about it but I will keep trying! Thank you!
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And that is why you always have a sf-50 & a sf-86 ready to go at all times. I've seen vacancy announcements only open for 2 days. Not the time to be hunting down stuff.
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Evil SpongeBob posted:And that is why you always have a sf-50 & a sf-86 ready to go at all times. I've seen vacancy announcements only open for 2 days. Not the time to be hunting down stuff. I saw one job that wanted my most recent performance evaluation. Didn't have that and for some reason it's not on our eOPf. Lost out on that one and I haven't seen any other jobs ask for that in the initial application but that might be a good one to have on hand as well.
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laxbro posted:Well I've begun my federal job search in earnest. I finish my peace corps service in two months and am trying to flex my noncompetitive status to get myself a job in DC. USAJOBS seems to be a shot in the dark. Keep on getting qualified, but not referred. Hopefully the peace corps career portal will have better luck for me. I mentioned this earlier, but I and others have had luck with the Peace Corps jobs board on the website. Lots of new positions listed, almost all just want people with NCE, and sometimes you get hired fast. I got hired within two weeks after applying. Unheard of in the world of the feds. I also was able to just email my stuff directly to the manager and not use the dreaded USAJOBS blackhole. LOL, we still use paper time sheets and leave slips... probably been the same form for 50 years. However, wer're making the transition now to "computerized time sheets." I hope we get some far fetched password requirements.
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My girlfriend and I have been living together for a while, and we moved to a new city when she got a contract specialist job. She was told her interim clearance was denied for financial reasons (probably from school loans her now deceased mother forged her name on after telling her she would pay for her degree) after her first day at work and she should show up with a book from now on because she can't work with a computer until she gets her security clearance. She closed down her business to come do this, so can anyone tell me more about how this might play out so I can deal with the nervous breakdown that will probably happen when she gets home tonight?
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Thesaurus posted:I mentioned this earlier, but I and others have had luck with the Peace Corps jobs board on the website. Lots of new positions listed, almost all just want people with NCE, and sometimes you get hired fast. I got hired within two weeks after applying. Unheard of in the world of the feds. I also was able to just email my stuff directly to the manager and not use the dreaded USAJOBS blackhole. Awesome, makes me feel much better. I've applied to three NCE positions from the PC job board as well as the PC NCE entry level program on Avue Central. I still have about one and a half months until I return to the states, so I should just be enjoying these last few weeks in my country, but I'm 27 and reallllllly want to have a job locked down before I get back to the States.
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Evil SpongeBob posted:And that is why you always have a sf-50 & a sf-86 ready to go at all times. I've seen vacancy announcements only open for 2 days. Not the time to be hunting down stuff. You're absolutely right! I honestly didn't think they would ask for any kind of proof that I'm a current federal employee when I applied for that one. Now that I know, I have everything ready to go Kase Im Licht posted:I saw one job that wanted my most recent performance evaluation. Didn't have that and for some reason it's not on our eOPf. Lost out on that one and I haven't seen any other jobs ask for that in the initial application but that might be a good one to have on hand as well. Except this! I was told I would get a copy of my last performance evaluation but they never gave it to me. Now that I know it could possibly be needed I'll get a copy tomorrow!
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lwoodio posted:My girlfriend and I have been living together for a while, and we moved to a new city when she got a contract specialist job. She was told her interim clearance was denied for financial reasons (probably from school loans her now deceased mother forged her name on after telling her she would pay for her degree) after her first day at work and she should show up with a book from now on because she can't work with a computer until she gets her security clearance. She closed down her business to come do this, so can anyone tell me more about how this might play out so I can deal with the nervous breakdown that will probably happen when she gets home tonight? From what I've seen on the Federal Soup forums, a decision on the interim really has no bearing on whether or not a full-fledged clearance is given. If you want to help calm her/yourself down, take a look here at some of the cases where people in bad financial situations showed that they were working to put themselves back on their feet and were ultimately granted a clearance.
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It is a good practice to keep copies of your latest SF-50 and your last couple of annual performance appraisals uploaded in your USAJobs account. Even if the position you want to apply for doesn't use USAJobs, you can still use your account as cloud storage for those important documents. Same thing if you have Schedule A documents, vetpref letters, etc.
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I was approached about temporarily detailing into a first-line supervisory position. Any federal managers/supervisors care to share stories about their experiences in such capacities?
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Tortilla Maker posted:I was approached about temporarily detailing into a first-line supervisory position. I am not a manager, but every manager I've interacted with so far in the government has not been like my managers in the private sector. In the public sector, they've largely seemed like glorified HR (as in, they deal with approving leave and poo poo) plus a smattering of office politics. Pretty cushy if you ask me, if cushy is what you're going for. It's what I'm going for because I am objectively a bad employee.
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Justus posted:I am not a manager, but every manager I've interacted with so far in the government has not been like my managers in the private sector. In the public sector, they've largely seemed like glorified HR (as in, they deal with approving leave and poo poo) plus a smattering of office politics. Pretty cushy if you ask me, if cushy is what you're going for. It's what I'm going for because I am objectively a bad employee.
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Justus posted:I am not a manager, but every manager I've interacted with so far in the government has not been like my managers in the private sector. In the public sector, they've largely seemed like glorified HR (as in, they deal with approving leave and poo poo) plus a smattering of office politics. Pretty cushy if you ask me, if cushy is what you're going for. It's what I'm going for because I am objectively a bad employee. Is it possible you have that perception because that is what all of your interactions with them consist of? My office is small, but I'm sure most of my employees think all I do is review their work. That's perfectly reasonable for them to think that because they don't see me meeting with industry groups, evaluating vendor bids, cold-calling to build new relationships, etc. I actually spend more time doing all of that than I do reviewing and approving their work.
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Sup SSA goons. I currently work for SSA DDB which makes me a state employee doin' them sweet medical decisions, but all our funding comes from the feds (and our email addressses, and trainings ugh, etc). I'd love to somehow move over into the federal side of things for the transfer opportunities, but since my background is all medical bullshit I'm not sure where I could sneak in on the SSA side of things. ODAR is technically run by federal employees, but I figure I'd probably have to at least move to Chicago to have a chance with anything else (I'm in WI at this point).
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marchantia posted:Sup SSA goons. I currently work for SSA DDB which makes me a state employee doin' them sweet medical decisions, but all our funding comes from the feds (and our email addressses, and trainings ugh, etc). I'd love to somehow move over into the federal side of things for the transfer opportunities, but since my background is all medical bullshit I'm not sure where I could sneak in on the SSA side of things. ODAR is technically run by federal employees, but I figure I'd probably have to at least move to Chicago to have a chance with anything else (I'm in WI at this point). I bet you could get in. It's a huge agency and people are moving around all the time. Your disability background would make you ideal for some claims representative positions. They train you up on everything, anyways. I'd keep your eye out for any Claims Rep openings.
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Thesaurus posted:I bet you could get in. It's a huge agency and people are moving around all the time. Your disability background would make you ideal for some claims representative positions. They train you up on everything, anyways. I'd keep your eye out for any Claims Rep openings. Claims reps at the local field offices? I'll keep an eye out. I feel like it might be a significant pay cut, but I don't know that for sure. Might be worth it for the potential upward mobility.
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Hey guys, I think I'm missing something obvious. In December I applied for a job, application status was updated to Referred, and then two days ago I got an email saying:quote:Thank you for your interest in applying for the above vacancy with the U.S. Geological Survey. Except, I can't seem to find the new listing. I searched for the original job title, searched all the posted jobs for that city, and tried hunting down the new announcement number directly. Nothing. Is it possible that the new listing hasn't actually been posted yet, is internal only, and/or how silly would I look for emailing them back asking for help?
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marchantia posted:Sup SSA goons. I currently work for SSA DDB which makes me a state employee doin' them sweet medical decisions, but all our funding comes from the feds (and our email addressses, and trainings ugh, etc). I'd love to somehow move over into the federal side of things for the transfer opportunities, but since my background is all medical bullshit I'm not sure where I could sneak in on the SSA side of things. ODAR is technically run by federal employees, but I figure I'd probably have to at least move to Chicago to have a chance with anything else (I'm in WI at this point). I have your job in another state in the Philly region for SSA. I used to be a fed, but took this job to be closer to family. I've been trying to get into our ODAR office. Virtually all of us have at our DDS office. I've been waiting 6 months on some applications. I'm a former GS-9 with USCG applying for mostly GS-7s (still more than state employee pay). I know literally one person who crossed over, and they moved to Philly. No idea why they don't seem to hire from DDS. Good luck with that.
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Zantie posted:Hey guys, I think I'm missing something obvious. In December I applied for a job, application status was updated to Referred, and then two days ago I got an email saying: I am finding myself equally unable to figure the problem out now than in 2013 when it happened to me, though. You could e-mail them and ask for help but I would do it from an anonymous account haha
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