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Just buy a loving corolla/camry with your navy check and learn basic maintenance. Resist the urge to buy another basket case for the love of god.
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rscott posted:I too almost bought a turbo z car but I did like twss said and put two fingers clean through the floor boards straight into the carpet. poo poo was like paper mache I bought a Toyota pickup where I could stuff my arm up the rocker panel and touch the rear seats.
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Jan 23, 2015 05:26
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Professor Bling posted:Sperg buy the Corvair
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I'm conflicted about doing something that evil straight out, but I think taking a can of Chassis Saver to it shows a best-faith effort and conceals the problem. Its an 80's Z car in the rust belt that's been backyard converted to a turbo model and has some more mystery mods. Its got more than enough red flags to turn away an educated buyer. Encase the rust and dont draw too much attention to it and someone capable (or hilariously not) of dealing with its issues will buy it. I wouldn't think it too unethical unless you stated it was rust free and demanded a price that would reflect that false condition. I think it boils down to asking price and claims in the fs ad for the most part. leica posted:Just buy a loving corolla/camry with your navy check and learn basic maintenance. Resist the urge to buy another basket case for the love of god. This. "Boring" cars can still be a hoot to drive and you won't find yourself up shits creek without a paddle since maintenance on these are pretty simple. And please actually inspect your next purchase. Never take a PO's word on faith alone.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I'm conflicted about doing something that evil straight out, but I think taking a can of Chassis Saver to it shows a best-faith effort and conceals the problem. I used to have these feelings as well until my own grandpa sold me a car in the dark and lied about/concealed the rot and accidents it had been in. Realized selling a car brings out the scumbag in everyone and that's just the name of the game. I've only ever bough one car (from an enthusiast) where the previous owner was up front and honest about the condition and flaws with the car, but it helped that I took the time to read through his entire post history on multiple forums before trusting a thing he said. So basically what I'm saying is spray it and sell it, who gives a gently caress. quote:Just buy a loving corolla/camry with your navy check and learn basic maintenance. Resist the urge to buy another basket case for the love of god. Universally accepted, but universally horrible advice. Corollas camrys civics etc are routinely beat to poo poo, neglected, and owned by teenagers and commuters who will drive it from A to B with zero maintenance until the wheels fall off. There's a long list of better, more interesting, and often better kept cars you can find for under 5k or whatever price range we're talking. Keep in mind these are words coming from someone who is telling OP to buy an e30, which is saying something. I'm not saying "don't buy a boring car," just "don't buy a civic, accord, camry, corolla, etc" OP take your time and search for the right car. Try to find something with maintenance history that was enthusiast owned. Don't just spring for the first thing that catches your attention or you'll end up repeating the same error. Buy a naturally aspirated car without a motor swap. You know how most car ads have a list of modifications? You want one that doesn't have that list. One where the list is stuff like "____ replaced with oem parts at _____ miles" Since you said you're willing to travel... If you want to buy a kickin rad 80's car again go buy it in Seattle/Oregon/California because rust isn't an issue over here and it's probably the best used car market in north america for cool/unique older stuff anyways. HEY VAPER fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Jan 23, 2015 05:43
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oh jesus, this just popped up http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/4859431844.html this is a terrible loving idea
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Jan 23, 2015 05:45
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why? Because its unmolested? goddamn that thing looks clean.
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Sperglord Firecock posted:oh jesus, this just popped up I would buy that for the asking price if it looks half as good as the pictures in real life, but yes it's a terrible idea for you to buy it.
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Battery tray doesn't look great, I'd start looking at every piece of metal that's tied in there. It's a common rust origin for nearly every car. Battery should have a better tie-down than that too, I bet. Seats are pooched. Window seals in the front aren't great. Lap-only belts are dangerous as poo poo. I'd take a screwdriver and tap all the red looking spots on the floorpan with the handle to see if there actually is "no rust." Bumper lip behind the fender looks kind of hinky, check the paint on that one to make sure it hasn't been tapped. Otherwise I don't know much about those little cars. I want one though (there's a surprise, huh?) "New carburetor" worries me a bit. Why'd he swap it? Hillrod fix? Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Jan 23, 2015 05:49
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Oldass carbs don't play very nice with ethanol. and the throttle shafts do wear out.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Battery tray doesn't look great, I'd start looking at every piece of metal that's tied in there. Battery should have a better tie-down than that too, I bet. But... but... LOUVERS... Or just tell him not to buy it because gently caress sourcing parts for a 1970 opel gt. Upholstery is fixable or replaceable, seat foam/metal looks fine so the seats aren't hosed. Yep the car's a total deathtrap. I also suspect floorpan rust but it's not bad. Seriously though, don't buy it, I have a friend who's in DEEP trying to fix up an opel gt.
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cursedshitbox posted:Oldass carbs don't play very nice with ethanol. So the fuel filter, fuel pump and fuel pump strainer needed to and should have been replaced. Wouldn't be surprised if the tank has nasty poo poo sitting around in it. The carb gasket and intake manifold gaskets are probably pooched too. edit: No plate. Is it unregisterable? Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Professor Bling posted:California Craigslist Goddamnit look at all that sweet-rear end vintage Japanese metal. I am straight loving jealous of all of that poo poo. Texas has maybe 1/5th of that. (still pretty rust free though)
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Realtalk suggestion: If you find a rust-free decent-paint 5speed e30 specifically a 325is, 325es, or 318es without the e30 tax seriously snap it up. As long as the shell/paint is good, there are only a small handful of jobs that sperglord couldn't be walked through, literally everything you could want to do to the car is incredibly well documented on the internet, there's a very loving good bentley manual available for the car. The entire value of the car is in the shell paint and interior. Sure parts costs can be a bit high for some things (though a new motor is literal pennies) but it really isn't bad compared to any other car that comes to mind when I think "rwd, 50/50 weight distribution or close, limited slip diff, manual." Other than the Miata I really can't think of any other car that fits that bill while also having literal babby level writeups for any job you could think of widely available on the internet. Plus you'll never outgrow it, because like the Miata basically every motor swap imaginable has been done before and documented. Not to say it's a good suggestion, the chances of finding a good e30 that isn't taxed to poo poo in 2015 is pretty slim, but they do exist and you'd be a fool not to add 325is/325es/318is to your list of craigslist search terms. Friend of mine picked up a running 1989 325is 5sp with 7/10 paint and a 9/10 shell for $600 a few weeks ago, it happens. HEY VAPER fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Jan 23, 2015 06:06
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have you actually looked at the prices for e30s lately?
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Sperglord Firecock posted:http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/cto/4834541883.html Jesus Christ do not go to Lancaster, there's another car goon out there that can check it out for you if you're really interested. PM me and I'll talk to him.
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rscott posted:have you actually looked at the prices for e30s lately? Yeah but you can still find good ones for cheap if you filter through the poo poo. Sure a 325is will command top dollar, but it's not unreasonable to say he could find a 318is or 325es on the cheap, and they still get all the important sport package goodies. I'm constantly searching the west coast for e30's just to see what's out there and fairly priced good ones DO exist if you're patient. edit: and also OP said he was willing to shop out of state, specifically in the land of (north american) cheap rust free e30s. If wa/oregon/cali are in the range you're willing to go to buy a car there's some really good ones up here. e36 wouldn't be a bad idea either. It's not as good of a car by any metric but they can be had for cheap still.I HEY VAPER fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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HEY VAPER posted:Universally accepted, but universally horrible advice. Corollas camrys civics etc are routinely beat to poo poo, Yes, it is horrible advice to recommend a relatively dependable vehicle to learn how to work on cars what was I thinking! OP have you considered Discos?
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Jan 23, 2015 07:04
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P38 range rover. That's horror.
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leica posted:Yes, it is horrible advice to recommend a relatively dependable vehicle to learn how to work on cars what was I thinking! You're right. 10 years ago. Have you seen the kind of condition a used corolla is in these days?
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leica posted:Yes, it is horrible advice to recommend a relatively dependable vehicle to learn how to work on cars what was I thinking! I'll sell him a 96 F150 straight 6 5 spd 4x4 with 130k miles and a tranny he needs to drop in the next 10k miles for 2300. You can't get more straightforward than that.
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Sperglord Firecock posted:oh jesus, this just popped up It's a terrible idea because you won't fit in it You're too big, sailor. Like, not being a dick, you literally will not fit in that car (besides, you know that siren's song of quad carburetors is tugging at your heartstrings. The ad even conveniently shows you the kind of women you can expect to show a passing interest in you! it's perfect)
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Plinkey posted:I'll sell him a 96 F150 straight 6 5 spd 4x4 with 130k miles and a tranny he needs to drop in the next 10k miles for 2300. You can't get more straightforward than that. OP buy this man's truck asap.
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leica posted:OP buy this man's truck asap. I agree this sounds like a solid plan and trucks are useful as gently caress. Gas prices are pretty low right now! Half the reason I suggested an e30 is because OP literally can't gently caress up an iron block i6. Once the transmission is sorted, I don't think OP could possibly gently caress anything up on that truck, it really doesn't get much simpler than a s6 manual f150. HEY VAPER fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Just to drive the point home how boring and unfun you would be to buy a camry, here's some e30's you can buy today for the price of a 90's camry or less, most of them 5speeds. I'm sure at least one of them's rust free! http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/4858921704.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/4856367373.html http://eugene.craigslist.org/cto/4859048219.html I like how he has how the car is stored pictured http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/4857936770.html http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/4852055925.html easy fix if PO isn't lying, and this one has an LSD, slight chance it's a 4.10 too... http://eugene.craigslist.org/cto/4855436436.html who gives a gently caress about seats you want sport seats anyways, this one looks v good http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/4857604177.html pro tier 5 speed swap candidate, plastic bumper 325i for 2k asking http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4852985443.html comedy 600 dollar with a promisinglooking shell that doesn't run http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4857359969.html bet this guy would take 3500, kind of on the high side but manual ix's are p cool. we'll call this one 1999 camry territory And one I wish I could buy that's probably way too expensive http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/4847230739.html Here's one for an automatic convertible without any pictures. Plus he'll trade for Guns / rolex / men's gold/ silver / watches / cars / motorcycles / possibly cocaine http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4838279667.html And here's one more up Sperglord's alley, a motor swap with issues, 3 different wheels including fake bbs's, and other mysteries! http://abbotsford.craigslist.ca/cto/4813577640.html Or, you know,  (that one's actually 5.5 thousand dollars, but I'm beginning to question if it really has "lather" seats like the ad claims) edit: oh I also found a broken electric vehicle converted e30 for 2 thousand dollars!!!1 http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/4842970774.html HEY VAPER fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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The first three are poverty spec etas or an automatic convertible, literally the least desirable e30s besides the other one you linked, an m10 318i! Sport seats in good condition can easily run $200 each. Medium case LSDs run $400. Quite a few of those cars wouldn't make the trek back to Chicago in their current condition, so add another $800-$1k to get out trailered home (better hope the driver isn't tweaked out and doesn't gently caress your car up!), or pay someone out there to fix it who has you over a barrel. Come on dude I know this is AI but let's be realistic given the course of this thread so far. e: literally every e30 ad with that mentions leather seats actually has vinyl, sooooooo e2: If you have your heart set on an e30 and you're going to buy one of the ones listed this one is probably the best: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/4857604177.html since it's the only one I would trust you to drive home e3: Figure another $600 in parts+labor to replace the timing belt, water pump and the rest of the cooling system on any e30 you buy that doesn't have receipts showing it was replaced in the last 5 years/60k miles, read the bmw thread to figure out why rscott fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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SperginMcBadposter posted:Why not just get a cheap generic shitbox to learn to work on instead of PO hosed rusted out nightmares? Because it might mean he can spend more time driving the car instead of working on it. Knowing for example if I break an axle I can get another for $30-50 is easy insurance to drive the piss out of the car. Having several examples of a vehicle at junkyards is insanely helpful. Not having to give a poo poo about dings or scuffs here and there is wonderful. Maybe it's some dumb internet car board meme but the advice "The most important part in a car is the nut behind the wheel." seems to be on target. It's all subjective though and a lot of people want a car for image instead of utility. Watching a beat up bright orange rattlecanned FB RX7 show up at the AutoX sounding mad as hell is a pretty cool image though. Fantastic website about a guy who rallies of all things a na dodge neon: rallynotes.com HEY VAPER posted:You're right. 10 years ago. Have you seen the kind of condition a used corolla is in these days? Much like any common used car there are good examples and bad examples. puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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I think he needs a eg Civic. Simple car and a decent one can be had for 4k.
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Extra posted:What do you think an 80s corolla will do you for you that a miata won't other than anime? To be fair there are Miatas in Initial D as well. This guy should probably buy 1 of the following though; 1. Some boat with a 3800 (Conversely one of the F-body 3800s, they came available with Manual Transmissions) 2. Civrolltegrage, because those have Manual transmissions as well. 3. Camry, Accord.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:P38 range rover.  Please OP, for the good of AI comedy
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Sperglord Firecock posted:Pretty much having a trunk. Good news, the Miata has one of those.
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Human Grand Prix posted:Good news, the Miata has one of those. It's better than most people give it credit for. You should see something that's truly dire like the MR-S.
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The Miata is actually decently practical and can be a good DD.
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Come buy my Miata. It's rust free and needs someone to work on it more than I do.
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Extra posted:Because it might mean he can spend more time driving the car instead of working on it. Knowing for example if I break an axle I can get another for $30-50 is easy insurance to drive the piss out of the car. Having several examples of a vehicle at junkyards is insanely helpful. Not having to give a poo poo about dings or scuffs here and there is wonderful. Neons dominate the local dirt circle track because you can just leave them in second gear. Somebody tried to compete with a team of b18 integras but they got shat on because they actually had to change gears.
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Jesus Christ shut up. He needs an E30 like he needs a hole in his loving head.
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I can't offer any car advice, but I never got around to saying good on you for actually finally getting up and doing something to the car even if it turned out to be rotten in the end. If you learnt something it's never a waste of time, just a waste of money. 
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I've read this whole thread. drat. So, I share your love for late 80's Japanese cars and especially anything with LOUVERS. I'm in NCentral Indiana and have the same problem looking at cars in this vintage - they're eaten to hell and back by rust. Instead of flying thousands of miles away to get a relatively rot-free ride (which isn't a bad idea, just a time/money investment), you should think about something more simple like driving to Southern Illinois/Kentucky. They get WAY less snow/ice and use a lot less salt on their roads. YES, you will still find rusty cars but they will be an order of magnitude cleaner than most things you can find around here. Plus it's a hell of a lot easier to get a friend involved in an 8hr roadtrip than a 4 day one.
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I was actually tempted to look at those, yeah. Already found a Starion, which I know will give me the exact same feeling of "oh god the everything isn't working" without (hopefully) the soul-crushing despair of finding out that it's a rusted-out hulk! http://semo.craigslist.org/cto/4857573648.html I also have a soft spot in my heart for RX-7's, since I think they're neat. http://clarksville.craigslist.org/cto/4844583842.html If I wanted a REAL super projecty car, I could get this and put it back together. http://chambana.craigslist.org/cto/4806558539.html Also, RX7 Turbo right in my price range. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4858813281.html
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