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Sollux and Mituna have the worst quirks by far because there were times I had no clue what was even being said. The others were annoying but somewhat readable.
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Jan 23, 2015 18:28
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lotus circle posted:Sollux and Mituna have the worst quirks by far because there were times I had no clue what was even being said. The others were annoying but somewhat readable. Sollux' isn't so bad. Mituna's is loving awful. Damara's isn't so bad with Google Translate but then I immediately regret translating it.
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Jan 23, 2015 18:37
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The main thing is that once you get past the trolls' backstory, the ones with the most painful quirks become irrelevant.
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Jan 23, 2015 18:53
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Tenebrais posted:The main thing is that once you get past the trolls' backstory, the ones with the most painful quirks become irrelevant. I dunno, Gamzee was pretty relevant.
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Jan 23, 2015 19:23
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Yeah and his becoming relevant coincides with his quirk becoming infinitely more readable.
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Jan 23, 2015 19:25
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They'll pretty much all stop being weird and start looking like normal text once you've been with him for a while. Even Karkat stops reading like he's shouting.
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Jan 23, 2015 21:13
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Rand Brittain posted:Even Karkat stops reading like he's shouting. This never happened for me at least.
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Wasn't there a Firefox/Chrome addon out there that just makes troll quirks look like normal text? What happened to that?
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CJacobs posted:Wasn't there a Firefox/Chrome addon out there that just makes troll quirks look like normal text? What happened to that? It found a textblock of Mituna talking to Latula and exploded. (Although I don't find Latula or Terezi's quirk TOO awful grating. Hussie even pokes fun at once or twice when someones not sure if she said A or Four, or something of that nature)
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Mituna is the only hard one(heavy quirk plus spelling things wrong plus occasional gibberish), everyone else is just weird internet speak. I wonder what younger readers think about that stuff, l33t isn't really in vogue online anymore so it's kind of a weird thing for them to see, no real context for it other than 'wow these grey people type funny!'. I see some screennames in FPS games use that kind of spelling but nothing else anymore, really. It's kind of interesting how Homestuck pulls these aspects of internet communication, sub-cultures, and friendships all together from a few different generations of teenagers-on-the-internet and turns them into characters interacting with one another. The really early stuff seems like it's all pulling from the 90s/2000s internet experience and that was one of the things that kind of hooked me initially about Homestuck. I feel like that's one of the things that's been emphasized less as the story's gone on, though there was a bit of a resurgence when they hit the dancestor introduction stuff a little while back and it pulled tumblr, 4chan, and memes into things briefly. Sort of a nice way to go "hey, there's some younger people interested in this too and their online experiences are a little different so here's some of that". I think the only thing they haven't really hit is Skype and Youtube, though I can understand why a comic without voiceover stuff wouldn't want to dive into video-based content like that.
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Jan 23, 2015 22:32
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I'm more impressed that one of the most awful internet archetypes (the all-caps angry rants that go nowhere) belongs to one of the best characters in the comic.
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Jan 23, 2015 22:42
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Kelp Plankton posted:Mituna is the only hard one(heavy quirk plus spelling things wrong plus occasional gibberish), everyone else is just weird internet speak. I wonder what younger readers think about that stuff, l33t isn't really in vogue online anymore so it's kind of a weird thing for them to see, no real context for it other than 'wow these grey people type funny!'. I see some screennames in FPS games use that kind of spelling but nothing else anymore, really. Well, we've had a couple of plot significant YouTube videos (Gamzee seeing Miracles, Vriska seeing the end of Con Air).
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Rincewind posted:Well, we've had a couple of plot significant YouTube videos (Gamzee seeing Miracles, Vriska seeing the end of Con Air). Yeah but they haven't interacted with youtube or trolltube or whatever, just shared things from it. It's just a noticable 'internet person type' gap, there's no troll who's thing was making videos for a youtube or vine style thing. Not that I'm saying there should be, it doesn't really jive with the comic's format and it would be a weirdly large amount of work for basically no purpose. But maybe we'll see something like that in the adventure game, since it's going to be 3D animation stuff anyway.
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Rand Brittain posted:They'll pretty much all stop being weird and start looking like normal text once you've been with him for a while. Even Karkat stops reading like he's shouting. Which is a lie. Karkat is always shouting forever.
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Classtoise posted:I'm more impressed that one of the most awful internet archetypes (the all-caps angry rants that go nowhere) belongs to one of the best characters in the comic. Hussie's been all about redeeming the worst of internet archetypes. When we got our first glimpse of Equius Hussie declared "And now, to make you love him!", and find me a respectable poster who don't love him some Equius.
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Jan 24, 2015 04:54
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The scene where Equius raps at Dave is one of the best moments in all of Homestuck.
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karmicknight posted:Karkat is always shouting forever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba7FWIRUEaA
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Jan 24, 2015 05:23
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Even videos that utilize audio from other existing videos use the Terezi voice we all expect from her, it may as well be canon now
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CJacobs posted:Even videos that utilize audio from other existing videos use the Terezi voice we all expect from her, it may as well be canon now I cannot imagine Terezi without the borderline raspy/nasally voice.
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Kelp Plankton posted:Yeah but they haven't interacted with youtube or trolltube or whatever, just shared things from it. It's just a noticable 'internet person type' gap, there's no troll who's thing was making videos for a youtube or vine style thing. As well as the practical authorial reason you said, there's also the fact that that kind of person would be hilariously likely to get murdered by their meteor because they were too busy loving around and posting evidence of this to their blog. (like the gamefaqs kid, but way less helpful)
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Dolash posted:Hussie's been all about redeeming the worst of internet archetypes. When we got our first glimpse of Equius Hussie declared "And now, to make you love him!", and find me a respectable poster who don't love him some Equius. I hate Equius. The constant references to sweating creep me out. Feel free to make the "no true Scotsman" argument that hating Equius automatically makes me disrespectable. Edit: Removed leet-speak for fear it would be taken as serious rather than as quoting Vriska.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I hate Equius. The constant references to sweating creep me out. Feel free to make the "no true Scotsman" argument that hating Equius automatically makes me disrespectable. Vriska is the worst character  E: Well. Maybe Tavros.
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Classtoise posted:Vriska is the worst character I actually kind of like her. She's Phycho and ruins everything, like the ultimate Munchkin. But she's got a lot of character and a cool design. My opinion may still change, i'm only just past Jade entering and John ascending.
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M_Gargantua posted:I actually kind of like her. She's Phycho and ruins everything, like the ultimate Munchkin. But she's got a lot of character and a cool design. I won't spoil anything, but I liked Vriska at this point too.
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Spoiler: Vriska is the loving best.
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Classtoise posted:Vriska is the worst character Damara. Kankri. So many choices on Beforus.
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Y'all are talking about the second worst character, right? Because the worst character is objectively Cronus.
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TinTower posted:Y'all are talking about the second worst character, right? Because the worst character is objectively Cronus. Yeah but we don't even need to mention him That's the default bad one, without any opinion needed. It's just a fact. It's like saying I breathe air. No duh.
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aside from meenah and areana i wouldn't even really count the beforus trolls as characters
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AriadneThread posted:aside from meenah and areana i wouldn't even really count the beforus trolls as characters Yeah, they're slightly more elaborate one-off gags. Think of Trolls like Cronus as pre-cancellation Herbert from Family Guy. Just a gag, not intended for character arcs or anything, because that would just poo poo on the joke.
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That's the thing. Spending any time with any of the Beforus trolls (okay, except Meenah and Aranea) reveals that they are actually, literally made of cardboard. I assume that Damara's being kept captive by Doc Scratch is going to pay off at some time and maybe she'll become interesting then. Also: quote:TG: so are you just as brain damaged as we are Kanaya status: Continues to rule.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I assume that Damara's being kept captive by Doc Scratch is going to pay off at some time and maybe she'll become interesting then. That was post-scratch Damara, technically Aradia's ancestor although her meteor arrived long after the other trolls were gone. She was empowered by Lord English, went back in time, and was responsible for molding Alternian society into a hellish dystopia. After the Vast Glub she stuck around until the Condesce returned. The Condesce killed her and took her place as Lord English's servant. Spoilered since there's a new reader around
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And there's 3 months of this kinda chat still to go in this thread? Hussie is clearly the best troll.
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Suaimhneas posted:(spoiler deleted) Oh, my God, I'm so confused. Another typical moment for a Homestuck reader.
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Suaimhneas posted:That was post-scratch Damara, technically Aradia's ancestor although her meteor arrived long after the other trolls were gone. She was empowered by Lord English, went back in time, and was responsible for molding Alternian society into a hellish dystopia. After the Vast Glub she stuck around until the Condesce returned. The Condesce killed her and took her place as Lord English's servant. I remember thinking at the time that there was some ambiguity or another in Scratch's lecture to her that suggested that some kind of Parent Trap twin switch could have happened, but I'll be damned if I can remember what it was, and I really doubt Hussie's got any detours into dancestor country planned. I mean, we're coming up on the Final Final Acts; surely there must be a limit to how much he can meander, right? I figure once we've seen the payoff to Kurloz's machinations, that'll be it for the non-Meenah dancestors. I'd honestly be a little surprised if we even heard from Aranea after this.
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Note to Self posted:I remember thinking at the time that there was some ambiguity or another in Scratch's lecture to her that suggested that some kind of Parent Trap twin switch could have happened, but I'll be damned if I can remember what it was, and I really doubt Hussie's got any detours into dancestor country planned. I mean, we're coming up on the Final Final Acts; surely there must be a limit to how much he can meander, right? I figure once we've seen the payoff to Kurloz's machinations, that'll be it for the non-Meenah dancestors. I'd honestly be a little surprised if we even heard from Aranea after this. The ambiguity was a result of the fact that, while all the dancestor grubs had been sent back in time to their appropriate eras, the Damara we saw arrived late, which is to say, just after Alternia had been ruined by the Vast Glub. Therefore she's technically younger than Aradia, despite being her ancestor, but still fulfilled that role because as LE's envoy she traveled back in time from the end of the universe to wreck poo poo.
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Actually, the story isn't really specific on which set of trolls is cloned from itself and which is genetically derived from the other. I'm inclined to think Karkat and his group are the "parents" of the others, because his ectobiology machine would have focused on the Empress and a bunch of other weirdos from throughout history, and Karkat's confusion at that would be noted in the narration of this page told in his point of view.
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M_Gargantua posted:I actually kind of like her. She's Phycho and ruins everything, like the ultimate Munchkin. But she's got a lot of character and a cool design. Keep us up to date. (Not sarcasm. I enjoy hearing new reader reactions)
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