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They don't need massive enrichment schemes for mere power plants though. And not only will anything the West/Israel does feed their paranoia, so will the actual wink wink nudge Pakistani warheads & Chinese missiles connection south of them. If you want an example of a more reasonable nuclear power plants scheme in the ME, look at what the UAE has been doing.
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Spacman posted:It's just a loving shame that it is immediately connected with building the bomb. How would the use of nuclear power in Iran dissuade Iran from selling oil? Increased use of nuclear power in oil importing countries might have that effect(through a decrease in demand) but not the other way around. Nuclear power in Iran might decrease oil demand in Iran and/or lower the costs of production of oil in Iran but it probably wouldn't cause them to 'wean themselves off the sale of oil'.
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Spacman posted:It's just a loving shame that it is immediately connected with building the bomb. Uhh what. They'd arguably be selling more oil if they built nuclear plant.
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:How would the use of nuclear power in Iran dissuade Iran from selling oil? Increased use of nuclear power in oil importing countries might have that effect(through a decrease in demand) but not the other way around. Might get them to realize they live in a self inflicted stone age poo poo hole and bring back the pre-ayatollah days where they were part of the global community.
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Jan 23, 2015 20:40
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"No no guys, it's fine now, we can stop. We have enough money." Can anyone remind me who said that? no one ever
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Koesj posted:Didn't the Gingrich Congress sit on the fuel for inspections deal for so long that the North Koreans said gently caress it? I'm not sure about NK. The proposal was rejected by Iran, which I thought was the topic. I certainly could have gotten my wires crossed.
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Tremblay posted:I'm not sure about NK. The proposal was rejected by Iran, which I thought was the topic. I certainly could have gotten my wires crossed. I meant that past performance by the US on such deals might have set a bad precedent 
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:How would the use of nuclear power in Iran dissuade Iran from selling oil? Increased use of nuclear power in oil importing countries might have that effect(through a decrease in demand) but not the other way around. Hardly anyone uses oil for power generation anyway. What nuclear power does let you get rid of is lovely goddamn coal and natural gas plants.
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Bolow posted:Hardly anyone uses oil for power generation anyway. What nuclear power does let you get rid of is lovely goddamn coal and natural gas plants. If you sit on an abundant source of oil, you use oil for power generation. About 20% of Iran's electricity comes from burning oil, but it's that low only because Iran also has a shitload of natural gas. Saudi Arabia gets about 65% of its electricity from burning oil. If you're sitting on this large, but finite, supply material which you can sell to foreigners for some ridiculous amount of money, it's dumb to burn it for electricity instead of selling it, it's eating your seed corn. Nuclear power makes insane economic sense for Iran because every drop of oil they don't burn in generators is another drop they can export for cash. Best thing that we could have done was say "Look, yeah, a nuclear power plant makes sense for you. So here, we'll help you build an integral fast reactor, or an energy amplifier, or an LFTR, something that'll be really useful to generate power with but which isn't that useful for, say, blowing up Israel. You'll be world pioneers, driving the advance of nuclear technology." If they're serious about power generation, that's a good deal, if they just want to blow up Israel then it's a bad one.
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Phanatic posted:If you sit on an abundant source of oil, you use oil for power generation. About 20% of Iran's electricity comes from burning oil, but it's that low only because Iran also has a shitload of natural gas. Saudi Arabia gets about 65% of its electricity from burning oil. If you're sitting on this large, but finite, supply material which you can sell to foreigners for some ridiculous amount of money, it's dumb to burn it for electricity instead of selling it, it's eating your seed corn. Nuclear power makes insane economic sense for Iran because every drop of oil they don't burn in generators is another drop they can export for cash. If all Iran wanted to do was build good nuclear plants I'm pretty sure a deal could have been made with the US or France or whatever.
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Syncopated posted:If all Iran wanted to do was build good nuclear plants I'm pretty sure a deal could have been made with the US or France or whatever. Last time they made a reactor deal with France it didn't turn out super well.
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Syncopated posted:If all Iran wanted to do was build good nuclear plants I'm pretty sure a deal could have been made with the US or France or whatever.
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Spacman posted:Israel needs to man the gently caress up and stop running to mum every time someone calls them on talking poo poo. They are the international equivalent of the short man bully. Talk big poo poo up, throw a punch or two, then when the big boys come to beat them they go and cry to mum and then hide behind dad. Well if you're strictly talking about the diplomatic side of foreign affairs, yes, they are a little bitch. If you're talking about the kinetic side of foreign affairs, they're the bully. Albeit a bully who is so incompetent the last two times they tried to steal someone's lunch money they wound up hauled up the flagpole with their briefs pulled over their head. Wasabi the J posted:Might get them to realize they live in a self inflicted stone age poo poo hole and bring back the pre-ayatollah days where they were part of the global community. The Iranian population already is well aware of this. There's other reasons things are the way they are, but the idea that the Iranian people are just totally cool with living under the current regime and love it to death is pretty wrong. Koesj posted:I meant that past performance by the US on such deals might have set a bad precedent The US govt renege on a diplomatic deal?!?!? Why I never!!! Also yeah, the people saying "why doesn't Iran just make a deal with the West to get some non-weapon capable reactors" are kind of missing some pretty significant historical context.
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I like their method of carrying him at the end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAcsN8akfW4&t=184s
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Destro posted:I like their method of carrying him at the end. Learn spoken Arabic the easy way! http://tunisianarabic24.blogspot.com/ I see his vest did him a lot of good.
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Oh cool, I didn't expect the sensor operator to slip on the One Ring.
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Jan 24, 2015 06:15
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Destro posted:I like their method of carrying him at the end. Just pointing out that's a somewhat older video, and he's FSA. Not ISIS.
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A Flanker is about the same length as a loving B-17. An F-15 is a few feet shorter.
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chitoryu12 posted:Just pointing out that's a somewhat older video, and he's FSA. Not ISIS.
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You'd think people would have learned their lesson about overtaking EP-3s on the right after what happened last time.
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Dead Reckoning posted:You'd think people would have learned their lesson about overtaking EP-3s on the right after what happened last time. One free EP 3 plus a dead hero pilot, in addition to a populace that gets to blame the US for attacking a fighter with a prop driven reconnaissance plane? We're not talking about a country that gives a poo poo about the rest of the world here.
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Last time they made a reactor deal with France it didn't turn out super well. Ok so apparently the Iranians (possibly?) killed a dude but that was years ago man.
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Here's a working video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN8OoefnUPM
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I sat in a Flanker a few years back. They're loving awesome. And huge.
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Peshmerga killing ISIS dudes north of Kirkuk. http://youtu.be/azbuZtBwTVY
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:Peshmerga killing ISIS dudes north of Kirkuk. oh my god that intro is so awesome
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:Peshmerga killing ISIS dudes north of Kirkuk. I love the whimsical font they used in the caption  .
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Head markers of mass graves filled with dead ISIS: the only place appropriate for Comic Sans.
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Based Kurds, I think one even had his ipod earbuds in. Gotta make sure you have your gently caress poo poo playlist on before you go hunting. Its too bad we just snubbed them at the conference.
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