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Cliff Racer posted:Villaraigosa should have a number of strong constituencies to draw from . Those constituents must not include anyone who lived in LA during his tenure, because I don't know a single person that is excited about him running for anything above trashman.
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Joementum posted:Steyer's out. The likelihood of Senator Harris happening is rapidly approaching 100%. Wouldn't having only two democrats on the ballot be better for Villaraigosa? The odds of it being two democrats on the final ballot are higher if it's a 3 way race between two republicans and two democrats. Villaraigosa has a better chance in a one on one race with Harris in the second round, if he can tack center/right and try to pick up some conservatives or moderates (who no longer have a candidate). I'm not saying it's likely, but I'd imagine this is exactly what Villaraigosa wants. He just needs to seem to be the viable anti-Harris.
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FilthyImp posted:Those constituents must not include anyone who lived in LA during his tenure, because I don't know a single person that is excited about him running for anything above trashman. Looking at his Wikipedia I am rather surprised he only left office in 2012/13. Also holy poo poo thats a lot of scandals.
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Cliff Racer posted:Looking at his Wikipedia I am rather surprised he only left office in 2012/13. Also holy poo poo thats a lot of scandals.
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Jan 23, 2015 08:20
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Haha he failed the bar four times according to Wikipedia. I only remember that "put God & pro-Israel back in platform" DNC verbal vote thing where tons of people were like "NO!" and eventually he just said "it passes!"
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I had forgotten that it had happened, remembering only the John McCain by acclaimation thing the Republicans did in 2008 instead as the only blatant non-democratic vote at a convention. The fact that both occurred during publicly funded events is, in itself, scandalous to me. If parties want to bend rules during their own time that is fine with me but when they are doing things with millions of dollars of state and local money they had better do stuff to the letter.
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Cliff Racer posted:I had forgotten that it had happened, remembering only the John McCain by acclaimation thing the Republicans did in 2008 instead as the only blatant non-democratic vote at a convention. The fact that both occurred during publicly funded events is, in itself, scandalous to me. If parties want to bend rules during their own time that is fine with me but when they are doing things with millions of dollars of state and local money they had better do stuff to the letter. Voice vote is 'by the letter', it's even used in congress and the senate.
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I don't think it was that scandalous I just thought it was a very Larry David moment that would have been awkward for pretty much anyone and was kind of funny. Like yeah I wish it wasn't in the 2012 platform but a voice votes on controversial things is a pretty bad idea. I do judge him for failing the bar four times. Less for failing it and more for going back a third and fourth time and still failing it... that is pretty Dunning-Krugerish.
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Jan 23, 2015 15:47
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Cliff Racer posted:I had forgotten that it had happened, remembering only the John McCain by acclaimation thing the Republicans did in 2008 instead as the only blatant non-democratic vote at a convention. The fact that both occurred during publicly funded events is, in itself, scandalous to me. If parties want to bend rules during their own time that is fine with me but when they are doing things with millions of dollars of state and local money they had better do stuff to the letter. Voice votes aren't "undemocratic," they're the default for everything everywhere. Recorded individual votes only happen if somebody requests it. Choosing the nominee by acclamation at a convention is standard because it conveys a sense of unanimity. No rules were bent. You're going too far out of your way to find things to complain about.
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evilweasel posted:Voice vote is 'by the letter', it's even used in congress and the senate. Yeah, its by the letter, but the vote was purposely called incorrectly both times. Looking back I remember watching the DNC convention at the time and ayes and nays were not evenly voiced, nay kicked aye's rear end. edit: And choosing the president by acclamation is not standard, typically every state gets up and does its thing as a publicity measure for the state parties/reward for the party loyalists chosen as delegates. Come to think of it, I don't think McCain was done by full acclamation, it might have been an issue of certain states misreporting their delegations as all voting McCain when some individual delegates did not in fact agree to do that. Cliff Racer has issued a correction as of 01:29 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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They did the state-by-state delegation voting at the DNC both times with Obama. It was supposed to start during the network broadcast in 2012 right after Clinton's speech, but that went a bit long and they didn't start the vote until after midnight. Neither Romney nor McCain were nominated unanimously, thanks to Ron Paul.
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Speaking of voice votes, remember the minor clusterfuck at the DNC in 2012 over Israel/Palestine? Good times.
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Yeah, that's what started this, since Villarigosa was the chair at the time of those voice votes. None of the delegates even attempted a motion for the yeas and nays though, so their loss - not that the motion would have been recognized. By the way, if you want to get super  about convention tallies, The Green Papers is the place to go. I had forgotten that Romney got two delegate votes at the 2008 RNC, but they did not forget.quote:6. The Utah chairman originally called Mitt Romney "George Romney" then quickly corrected himself. The 2 Romney votes from Utah were announced aloud by the Chair. edit: I had also forgotten that the state-by-state vote at the 2008 DNC was maneuvered in such a way (delegations can "pass") that the New York delegation was the one that put Obama over 50% and that Hillary led the delegation by offering a motion to suspend the vote and nominate Obama by acclamation, in "the spirit of unity". Joementum has issued a correction as of 03:50 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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Joementum posted:They did the state-by-state delegation voting at the DNC both times with Obama. It was supposed to start during the network broadcast in 2012 right after Clinton's speech, but that went a bit long and they didn't start the vote until after midnight. I believe in 2008 halfway through Clinton called for Obama to recieve the nomination by acclimation.
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evilweasel posted:I believe in 2008 halfway through Clinton called for Obama to recieve the nomination by acclimation. She did. It was by and large an agreement between both parties to save face. The vote made it look like Clinton still had a chance, and publicly calling it off for Obama herself made Clinton look graceful in defeat.
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Joementum posted:edit: I had also forgotten that the state-by-state vote at the 2008 DNC was maneuvered in such a way (delegations can "pass") that the New York delegation was the one that put Obama over 50% and that Hillary led the delegation by offering a motion to suspend the vote and nominate Obama by acclamation, in "the spirit of unity". Yeah, it was an extremely funny bit of political theater. I remember Hillary having a very impressive fake smile during the announcement.
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That was great. Some state or the other (since iirc they were going alphabetically) yielded to New York, and there was seriously a bumrush of people. Clinton took the microphone looking like she was heading a punk show.
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Jan 25, 2015 22:18
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Former Governor Ted Strickland (D) will challenge Rob Portman for the 2016 Ohio Senate seat. The race probably still leans Portman, but this was about the strongest possible recruitment the Dems could have gotten and the seat has gone from Safe R to competitive. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-strickland-run-for-senate-rob-portman quote:Former Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland (D) will run for Senate next year, challenging Sen. Rob Portman, according to The Vindicator of Youngstown, Ohio.
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On Bob Menendez's Clashes with Obama I can sympathize with mcmagic here. This article paints a really unflattering portrait of Menendez.
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It doesn't make him look all that bad to me. The worst part was the corruption investigation and him blaming it on Cuban spies but the article spent just a single sentence on that before moving on to bland politics. Why not elaborate? Did that investigation come to nothing? Was there really any indication that Cuban agents were involved? How did Obama react to the public revelation of the investigation?
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Re: Kay Hagan It is generally thought among those who matter in NC Democratic politics (namely, no one wasting time on work in the actual NCDP) that she's not worth wasting time on again and would be invisible on the stump next to Hillary and AG "If you price gouge in a hurricane, I will shove hot dildos up your rear end" Cooper in 2016. Foxx is needed to round out the diversity. Among "activists," it has been proposed that William Barber run, which would go about as well as any campaign by a man who, while committed to decent work, looks and sounds like Wesley Willis would be expected to go.
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Yeah I don't think anybody except Beltway idiots have suggested that she take another run. Pretty sure she's fallen back on her piles of real estate money and consulting/lobbying. Tangentially, I wonder if Burr attaching himself to the literally copypasted Obamacare replacement bill is the beginning of trying to raise his profile, considering probably 3/4 of voters have no clue who he is. And that's likely his biggest challenge going into 2016, despite winning twice as ENTER_CANDIDATE_NAME_HERE. Also haha holy poo poo the idea of Barber running would be the best, if only because he's a hell of a lot smarter and quick-witted than he comes off at first glance. Of course he'd never do it since that's not his thing, but gently caress he'd run circles around Burr in debate. Alec Bald Snatch has issued a correction as of 20:49 on Feb 8, 2015 |
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Still waiting on Andy Ball to run against Virginia Foxx...
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Pretty sure to defeat Foxx one just has to source a properly blessed hagstone from a moonlit holler, then toss it off the Linn Cove viaduct when the Brown Mountain lights are most visible.
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Russ Feingold is leaving the State Department. Naturally, pundits are wondering if this foretells a Johnson/Feingold rematch.
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So that's where he has been. Hope he runs+ wins.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Russ Feingold is leaving the State Department. Naturally, pundits are wondering if this foretells a Johnson/Feingold rematch. Russ Feingold was at the State Department?
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Russ Feingold is leaving the State Department. Naturally, pundits are wondering if this foretells a Johnson/Feingold rematch. After what seems like a century of Scott Walker, we could use Russ back. Granted he would be at more of a National level, but still. Although with the way he went out, he'd be well within his rights to shoot us the middle finger as he drives away, laughing.
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Feingold gonna ride in on a golden chariot and liberate his people from the shackles of the Koch Brothers' slavery Please? 
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Missouri's Democratic Secretary of State, Jason Kander, has announced that he'll challenge Roy Blunt in 2016. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is rumored to be planning a run in FL against Rubio. Joementum has issued a correction as of 03:16 on Feb 21, 2015 |
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Joementum posted:Missouri's Democratic Secretary of State, Jason Kander, has announced that he'll challenge Roy Blunt in 2016. quote:Wasserman Schultz has a different sense of herself. According to people who spoke with her, when she sensed Obama was considering replacing her as chair in 2013, she began to line up supporters to suggest the move was both anti-woman and anti-Semitic. 
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Gotta admire her at one level. That's how politics is played. She wanted to keep her job.
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Joementum posted:Missouri's Democratic Secretary of State, Jason Kander, has announced that he'll challenge Roy Blunt in 2016. Every election in Florida is a choice between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea.
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Feb 21, 2015 03:33
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You know who else once ousted a party chairman....
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Haha that makes Obama mocking her to her face all the better.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Haha that makes Obama mocking her to her face all the better. When was this?
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Joementum posted:Missouri's Democratic Secretary of State, Jason Kander, has announced that he'll challenge Roy Blunt in 2016.
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Joementum posted:Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is rumored to be planning a run in FL against Rubio. Oh God, please make this happen. I won't ask for anything else all year. Thank you.
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ufarn posted:Was she talked into this by a donor? She was talked into it by everyone who wants her out of her party position. Kander announcing against Blunt is no surprise. Just don't look at Kander's stance on racial issues.
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