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MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
People who have to win Busy. These people who will list every single thing they have to do, while stressing the lunch that they're not going to take, because no man you don't even know dude, you just, I am SO busy.

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evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

MF_James posted:

I would have just taken it if it were me. When you're legitimately in pain the pain meds you get should not be getting you "high" unless you're taking more than you should. I've taken pain killers to get high and when I've had legit medical needs (fractured hip, separate shoulder, torn muscles, broken leg, broken hand+surgery to fix), and there is a huge difference in effect on your cognitive abilities between taking them to get high and taking them to dull pain.

People have different reactions. Opiates have a mental effect on me no matter what. Even if it's just to "dull the pain", I'm still mentally blunted and a little "high" even on a prescribed dose. I think having an employer tell me I couldn't take hydrocodone after surgery and I couldn't take sick time wouldn't rub me the right way anyway, but opiates can still be intoxicating at therapeutic doses

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

People who have to win Busy. These people who will list every single thing they have to do, while stressing the lunch that they're not going to take, because no man you don't even know dude, you just, I am SO busy.

I have a coworker who quoted me two weeks to run an already written (and performant) script to extract < 100k rows from a database, because it had 5000 lines of code in it.

They justify the insane amount of time that anything takes because of the number of lines of code in the script/code.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Ynglaur posted:

Stealing. The word you're looking for is stealing.

I should mention that I know exactly how this poo poo goes down. When I first got to my current job I started looking at software and licensing. Long story short we were jacking about 10-20k worth of software that the previous admin had openly been using cracks to install. Some of it was backup exec (You now how expensive that is).

So I uninstalled it all, marched into the bosses office and said "We don't have usable backups, I need a budget".

I didn't get a budget till one three servers had a raid malfunction, and I had to spend a week rebuilding each one installing software/mods for the software without vendor support because these fucks were too cheap to keep up with support agreements.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

Super Slash posted:

"If there is any reason we cannot do a weekly Salesforce meeting for 30 minutes over lunch period"

My reply: "Yeah there's a reason, it's called Lunch."

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

I can forgive people occasionally scheduling a meeting at lunch because we work over multiple time zones and people some times forget the time difference, but if someone from my own office scheduled a reoccuring lunch meeting they'd get a very pointed Reject response to that meeting invitation.

Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?
If you schedule a recurring lunch meeting, you better be supplying lunch.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Gounads posted:

If you schedule a recurring lunch meeting, you better be supplying lunch.

Lunch is less about eating than it is about being the gently caress away from the people that work here. If I get an hour all to myself away from work in the middle of the day, you can provide me lunch all you want. I'm still taking the break.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

evol262 posted:

People have different reactions. Opiates have a mental effect on me no matter what. Even if it's just to "dull the pain", I'm still mentally blunted and a little "high" even on a prescribed dose. I think having an employer tell me I couldn't take hydrocodone after surgery and I couldn't take sick time wouldn't rub me the right way anyway, but opiates can still be intoxicating at therapeutic doses

This is true and I should have noted that. Hydrocodone can do the same thing as well, but I was speaking from my experience.

beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014
An email I just got:

quote:

Thank you for contacting Microsoft support. I am glad we were able to work together and resolve the issue "Emails from "account-security-noreply@account.microsoft.com" is blocked by [Exchange Online Protection]". Please find below the resolution summary for your future reference.

Summary:-

From the extended message trace result, we found that sender email address was blocked due to high confidence spam.
Thanks Microsoft for letting me know that you blocked your own emails because they are spam.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
I just flatly denied a request from my director and the VP. They want something by end of day. No.

:popcorn:

meanieface
Mar 27, 2012

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
I sent an email politely saying something wasn't getting done before Monday, because 'professionally worded "I'm busy"'. It worked.

My boss came by a few minutes later to let me know that I wasn't expected to work through the weekend.

Thanks for the long and pointed discussions on how to properly use a spine. :love:

porktree
Mar 23, 2002

You just fucked with the wrong Mexican.

Gounads posted:

If you schedule a recurring lunch meeting, you better be supplying lunch.
Lunch means freedom from tyranny. There isn't a good enough free lunch to replace that.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

meanieface posted:

I sent an email politely saying something wasn't getting done before Monday, because 'professionally worded "I'm busy"'. It worked.

My boss came by a few minutes later to let me know that I wasn't expected to work through the weekend.

Thanks for the long and pointed discussions on how to properly use a spine. :love:
I love the phrase "family commitments that I couldn't get out of", it's multi purpose and needs no elaboration.

Because I couldn't get out of it because I didn't try to get out of it. Because it's a Saturday. Because I can't believe I even need to find a best way to say "I'm not working all weekend"

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I just flatly denied a request from my director and the VP. They want something by end of day. No.

:popcorn:

*Clicks Decline button in outlook*
Come at me bro! :hehe:

On the other hand I want to backup the guy who deflects a lot of CRM flak for me, he tried to explain how no-ones using things properly but the directors weren't having any of it.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I love the phrase "family commitments that I couldn't get out of", it's multi purpose and needs no elaboration.

Because I couldn't get out of it because I didn't try to get out of it. Because it's a Saturday. Because I can't believe I even need to find a best way to say "I'm not working all weekend"

Why even bother with specifying?

"I have a commitment I need to attend to, and will not be able to work this weekend"

Hooray, done!

A Shitty Reporter
Oct 29, 2012
Dinosaur Gum
Interview went really well. Parents proud. Will hear back about the job sometime next week.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Sickening posted:

That seems like the easiest slam dunk unlawful dismissal I have ever heard of in all 50 states. And even beyond that, who would work for someone like that under any condition? :cripes:

Seriously. Take the medication. If your boss gives you any poo poo whatsoever invoke the "reasonable accommodation" clause of the ADA. Hound him about hippa compliance anywhere the information on your medical records is stored. Remind him about stiff penalties under ADA for getting too nosy. Look for a new job and gently caress that guy.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

An Angry Bug posted:

Interview went really well. Parents proud. Will hear back about the job sometime next week.

Congrats! Hope it works out, if it doesn't, don't be discouraged and keep plugging along, just learn from it. If they do decline to give you an offer, try to get info from them as to why you weren't selected.

spiny
May 20, 2004

round and round and round

Dick Trauma posted:

The recruiter for that last position disappeared. Told me I'd hear from him Monday to get a series of interviews with the deciders all scheduled for the same day. Emailed him Tuesday. Nothing. Emailed him yesterday asking if I'm still being considered for the position. Nothing.

He doesn't owe me a job, or even an explanation but I think it's a punk move to ignore a simple request like that.

Don't assume he's ignoring you ... I do phone system support, and quite a few of our customers are recruitment agencies, and pretty much everyday I get a 'new starter request' to change some guys phone to a different name as the original gut got 'let go' or quit, so your guy might just have not met the grade and is back in starbucks/bar work etc.

I've sat in these offices many times while installing new phones/doing upgrades etc, and listening in on the people when they are on calls makes me so happy i'm not doing what they do.

Obviously, they all lie and cheat to get commission, but if someone is not returning your calls, it might not be malicious, they might just have been poo poo and got canned :)

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

poo poo pissing me off: our sysadmins. They sit around all day talking about dicks and dildos and being gay (which is just hilarious to them) and do nothing. Every request we have (we being help desk) gets a million questions and/or reasons why they can't or won't help. For instance, our network was very slow today and everyone was calling us about it, so I went to talk about it with them and nobody gave a poo poo. Usually it's because of Kaspersky doing something (updating usually) and all of our stores connect to us over terrible mpls so everything slows to a crawl. They're just talking about dicks though so they can't be bothered to fix it. Like maybe schedule kaspersky to update overnight? I guess I'm not sysadmin material with dumb ideas like that though

Or a phone wasn't working today so I asked them to maybe look at it (it's a newly constructed room, the port wasn't working). Instead I got 20 questions and I had to go back and do their job because they didn't want to.


E: and I'm sure they think the help desk is useless too. It's good to be adversarial with coworkers

Aunt Beth posted:

"When we work on installing the new MainFrame this WeekEnd, let's figure out what to do for lunch... We could order from SubWay or AppleBee's."

We had someone come to the help desk yesterday talking about her access to "shared point". It's not the same thing but I laughed

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I just flatly denied a request from my director and the VP. They want something by end of day. No.

:popcorn:

When goons growing a spine goes too far

Honestly, Stripe, you're starting to sound jaded and angry. Maybe time to find a new job?

hihifellow
Jun 17, 2005

seriously where the fuck did this genre come from
Finance, who are in the same building as IT, has been swiping junked monitors sitting out on the recycle pile to use as second monitors. Found out today that two of the monitors they took had arcing power supplies, which prompted an email from my boss to the whole building that went "not only is this against corporate policy but you just took fire hazards".

There was only one response, from the director of finance, going "finance people; we have to talk." :munch:

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

evol262 posted:

When goons growing a spine goes too far

Honestly, Stripe, you're starting to sound jaded and angry. Maybe time to find a new job?
Starting to?

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


psydude posted:

My coworker is being such a hardon. We're trying to buy a bunch of Gigamon stuff, which would let us halve the number of sensors we need at each site. He's freaking out because of the cost of the Gigamon setup, however when you factor in that we'll need half as many sensors, it adds up to about $40k in savings.

Bit late on this but we've had endless issues with our Gigamon poo poo. When it works it's great but even Gigamon's techs can't get the thing to function properly. Like always the next update is supposed to fix everything and when it doesn't, well, the next one totally will.

I've heard good things about Net Optics so might want to give them a shot if you're doing a PoC/if they can handle your use case.

e: I don't mean to suggest that Gigamon's equipment flat out doesn't work. It's been feeding our sensors for like a year now but we have to watch the feeds like a hawk since we will randomly lose some traffic. Also the (competent) networking dudes complain about the thing a lot and have had to put in far too many change management tickets to attempt vendor fixes which never work.

CitizenKain posted:

We recently got a bunch of Gigamon stuff in to replace a bunch of NTAPs, and so far the Gigamon stuff is impressively orange. No idea how well it will work, but goddamn that poo poo is orange.

It is supremely easy to find in the data center.

Galler fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jan 24, 2015

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

evol262 posted:

People have different reactions. Opiates have a mental effect on me no matter what. Even if it's just to "dull the pain", I'm still mentally blunted and a little "high" even on a prescribed dose. I think having an employer tell me I couldn't take hydrocodone after surgery and I couldn't take sick time wouldn't rub me the right way anyway, but opiates can still be intoxicating at therapeutic doses
Yes and yes. People react differently to chemicals. poo poo that pisses me off is the U.S. healthcare system 'cause it's sad reading about all you good people having to put up with that poo poo. If I broke my foot and had to take Vicodin or Oxycontin, or any other painkiller that could also be used for fun, I would either have paid time off (if one is not allowed to be under the influence of drugs) or just work as normal, albeit limping around more relaxed and without pain. I'm a bartender, and here bartenders don't (shouldn't) even enjoy alcohol while working. So it'd be paid time off for the two to four weeks it takes to heal a broken foot. Decent socialised healthcare is awesome.

e: phrasing

F4rt5 fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jan 24, 2015

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

JazzmasterCurious posted:

Decent socialised healthcare is awesome.

Oh don't worry, we have the Family Medical Leave Act which allows us to take extended leave* when we have, among other things, a condition which prevents us from getting our work done (in this case that would be enough pain to require strong medication), and you can't be fired for taking it, a company has to accommodate this.

It's fine. It's all fine here. Excuse me while I get a $3,500 MRI.









*unpaid

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

evol262 posted:

When goons growing a spine goes too far

Honestly, Stripe, you're starting to sound jaded and angry. Maybe time to find a new job?
Nah I do alright. I don't ever not want to stand up against idiocy. (e: Basically, you REALLY want to work for or with me - you REALLY do not want me working for you. gently caress the leadership, how are my people doing? "Stripe I'm gonna need you to have your team---" "Gonna stop you right there. No.")

anthonypants posted:

Starting to?
I'LL KILL YOU

MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Jan 24, 2015

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


I left an incredibly laidback unix app administration gig for a MSP/VAR specializing in Midrange computing. It was good bump in pay, no more on-call and general further career progression. Unknown at the time, my hire was done to meet specific business partner requirements. To maintain contractual agreements you have to have a tech with specific skills, certifications and their previous tech abruptly put in his notice. I was supposed to be shadowing him but the training was incredibly rushed and our first install nearly a disaster. Initially, I was extremely hesitant touch anything despite enormous pressure from my manager.

With patience, pushing back and some incredibly helpful and sympathetic fellow admins I've managed to keep my head above water. We also, surprisingly didn't have many projects as expected and other general admin work I could participate in. About a few months ago, bigger projects came up and I told my supervisor it's not happening. He said he understood but training would have to wait until next year. I spoke to him about it a few weeks ago and I was told this part of the business isn't doing well, the remaining work will be outsourced therefore training me isn't required but I'd still be able to remain employed but without any explanation as to why it was needed.

To make matters worse, the more I look at the situation in retrospect I'm certain the company knew this part of the business was declining but gambled with my hiring. I've heard there's restructuring in the coming months and without real training I don't have a good out.

:smithicide:

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!



No don't I already have to replace someone.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Galler posted:

Bit late on this but we've had endless issues with our Gigamon poo poo. When it works it's great but even Gigamon's techs can't get the thing to function properly. Like always the next update is supposed to fix everything and when it doesn't, well, the next one totally will.

I've heard good things about Net Optics so might want to give them a shot if you're doing a PoC/if they can handle your use case.

e: I don't mean to suggest that Gigamon's equipment flat out doesn't work. It's been feeding our sensors for like a year now but we have to watch the feeds like a hawk since we will randomly lose some traffic. Also the (competent) networking dudes complain about the thing a lot and have had to put in far too many change management tickets to attempt vendor fixes which never work.

If not Gigamon, then some sort of traffic shaper. We don't do inline dropping (would probably take Obama himself to force our management to do this), so leveraging Gigamon would be fantastic for us.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

poo poo that doesnt piss me off: the networking team in charge of building an expansion in our datacenters came to lowly old contractor me to find out how much bandwidth they needed between the old building and the new one because i knew network traffic patterns better.

poo poo that makes me outright smile: when i said we needed a larger pipeline than weve ever done before (24Tbps) i had a bunch of very high level network architects sit down with me to figure out what i did wrong to get that number.

I successfully defended it. :frogbon:

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

01010100011010000111001
00110100101101100011011
000110010101110010
Thats pretty dope.

One must now ask: How do you get 24Tbps from one site to another?

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

incoherent posted:

Thats pretty dope.

One must now ask: How do you get 24Tbps from one site to another?

Station wagon.

Galler posted:

Bit late on this but we've had endless issues with our Gigamon poo poo. When it works it's great but even Gigamon's techs can't get the thing to function properly. Like always the next update is supposed to fix everything and when it doesn't, well, the next one totally will.

I've heard good things about Net Optics so might want to give them a shot if you're doing a PoC/if they can handle your use case.

e: I don't mean to suggest that Gigamon's equipment flat out doesn't work. It's been feeding our sensors for like a year now but we have to watch the feeds like a hawk since we will randomly lose some traffic. Also the (competent) networking dudes complain about the thing a lot and have had to put in far too many change management tickets to attempt vendor fixes which never work.


It is supremely easy to find in the data center.

I have no idea on if this equipment will work or not, odds are the boss will install some weekend on short notice, and probably won't really go over it with us.

Dunno-Lars
Apr 7, 2011
:norway:

:iiam:



What is pissing me off: Bitcoin and malware bitcoin miners. No idea how I got it, but it's loving with my computer. MSE, why can't you get rid of it? Why do I have to do it manually? Why do I keep you around?

Is MSE worth having, or is there something else I should get? Free is good, pirated is very bad (who the gently caress pirates a anti virus software anyway?!), paid can be good if it's worth it.

spiny
May 20, 2004

round and round and round

Dunno-Lars posted:

What is pissing me off: Bitcoin and malware bitcoin miners. No idea how I got it, but it's loving with my computer. MSE, why can't you get rid of it? Why do I have to do it manually? Why do I keep you around?

Is MSE worth having, or is there something else I should get? Free is good, pirated is very bad (who the gently caress pirates a anti virus software anyway?!), paid can be good if it's worth it.

I've found that Malwarebytes and Superantispyware do a good job of cleaning most crap off an infected PC. However, if you clean everything and the malware comes back shortly after, it's probably time to backup and reinstall Windows.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

incoherent posted:

Thats pretty dope.

One must now ask: How do you get 24Tbps from one site to another?

A lot of cables.

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

Dunno-Lars posted:

What is pissing me off: Bitcoin and malware bitcoin miners. No idea how I got it, but it's loving with my computer. MSE, why can't you get rid of it? Why do I have to do it manually? Why do I keep you around?

Is MSE worth having, or is there something else I should get? Free is good, pirated is very bad (who the gently caress pirates a anti virus software anyway?!), paid can be good if it's worth it.

MSE was quite good when it first came out, but hasn't kept pace and is now pretty bad. The old standby free ones are all right -- I like AVG, although a lot of people don't -- and I think Eset is still considered best-in-class for paid with Kaspersky not too far behind.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Jeoh posted:

A lot of cables.

This. And put them in separate trenches so some asshat with a plow doesn't take down the cluster.

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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

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MC Fruit Stripe posted:

People who have to win Busy. These people who will list every single thing they have to do, while stressing the lunch that they're not going to take, because no man you don't even know dude, you just, I am SO busy.

:agreed:

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