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Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

MoraleHazard posted:

I don't know what's more fun in botes. Watching pubbies run aground or torpedoing enemy ships.

Shooting down other carriers' planes. Did you know that one Independence beats three Langleys all at once, hands down?

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rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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MoraleHazard posted:

I don't know what's more fun in botes. Watching pubbies run aground or torpedoing enemy ships.

The first swiftly followed by the 2nd :)

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Atomizer posted:


The JT88 will be more profitable than pretty much anything from the tech tree, but typically tier 5-6 TT tanks are considered moneymakers for those that don't have premium ones. You generally look for a tank with a good gun and cheap shells. Something like a Hellcat at tier 6 fits those criteria, but not the SU-100, because while the latter is very good the 122 shells are expensive. (122 shells do less than twice the damage of the 90 mm ones but cost more than twice as much.) Look for something that doesn't require you to fire many/any premium shells. Or just shoot HE, it's cheaper, and does more damage too! :eyepop:

I believe the KV-2 is pretty good for this sort of thing.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Hellsau posted:

Crossposting from PANSY thread because goddamn:


He has a big house, a boat, and a 35k custom Harley.

"Wow, I'm sorry...






...that you grossly overspent to bling out a gas-guzzling old man's bike."

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

MoraleHazard posted:

I don't know what's more fun in botes. Watching pubbies run aground or torpedoing enemy ships.

Torpedoing grounded enemy ships

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009
Can someone explain how aiming works in WoWS? Aim I supposed to click on ships like tanks or do I have to lead the shot?

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN

Zettace posted:

Can someone explain how aiming works in WoWS? Aim I supposed to click on ships like tanks or do I have to lead the shot?

Lead. Game automatically does the elevation. Just hit 8 out of 12 torps fired. 45k shot against a BB and a 4 torp demolition of a CV. Torps are hilariously borked.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-I239livXc

How come anything related to Germany weaponry in WW2 has absollutely dire comments?

The video doesn't even seem that bad.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Hellsau posted:

Crossposting from PANSY thread because goddamn:


He has a big house, a boat, and a 35k custom Harley.

Also: terrible tattoos, a white-trash family, and pub-tacular stats.

Axetrain posted:

I believe the KV-2 is pretty good for this sort of thing.

The KV-2 is good for all the things. :smugdog:

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

rex rabidorum vires posted:

Lead. Game automatically does the elevation. Just hit 8 out of 12 torps fired. 45k shot against a BB and a 4 torp demolition of a CV. Torps are hilariously borked.

Good hits are hilariously borked.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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xthetenth posted:

Good hits are hilariously borked.

Indubitably. I mean I'm playing nothing but DDs for the most part (because there are so many juicy juicy CVs out there) and last round I landed 11 for like a billion damage *RIP Chilly* but it's like easy mode.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
I love how I apparently have exactly the opposite playstyle of everyone else here.

I run fighter-spec carriers. I've shot down over 200 aircraft since the weekend opened up again.

It's a good feeling to utterly outclass anything your opponent has in the air. A real good feeling.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Strobe posted:

I love how I apparently have exactly the opposite playstyle of everyone else here.

I run fighter-spec carriers. I've shot down over 200 aircraft since the weekend opened up again.

It's a good feeling to utterly outclass anything your opponent has in the air. A real good feeling.

Wait, do you actually get to choose your aircraft complement?

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

Atomizer posted:

Wait, do you actually get to choose your aircraft complement?

I like to know too, as I have seen some of the first carriers using all fighters

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

The different flight deck upgrades are often side-grades that simply change the types of planes you bring instead of increasing the number of flights. For example, the langley Mk2 flight deck is 2 fighters 1 torp bomber while the MK3 is the reverse.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Believe so, but while someone I know might have a carrier they havne't played it because MM is overloaded with every faglord that thinks he's Nimitz

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Atomizer posted:

Wait, do you actually get to choose your aircraft complement?

Sort of? You have three different kinds of squadrons: fighter, torpedo bomber, and dive bomber. One of the modules on the carrier determines how many and what combination of these squadrons you have. You will also have a different module for each type of aircraft the carrier supports. The Langley has no dive bomber module, for example, because no combination of flight control has dive bomber squadrons. It does, however, have a fighter module (that can be upgraded) and a torpedo bomber module (that cannot).

I favor running the flight control that gives me the most fighters, because it's essentially a hard counter to every other aircraft carrier on the field, especially once you get decent fighters. I managed to shoot down three entire carriers' air wings (45 fighters!) on my own with my fighters in a match a couple hours ago. That's three ships that are no longer doing anything useful whatsoever.

EDIT: Imagine playing arty, and having the option to put up a magic arty shield that stopped all other arty on the other team from shooting at your tanks.

That's what playing fighter spec carriers is.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Strobe posted:

Imagine playing arty, and having the option to put up a magic arty shield that stopped all other arty on the other team from shooting at your tanks.

That's what playing fighter spec carriers is.

And not only does that shield protect allies, but the fighters serve as scouts.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

BIG HEADLINE posted:

And not only does that shield protect allies, but the fighters serve as scouts.

And your friendly arty also can keep shooting at stupid pubbies on the other team. It's an immensely rewarding role to play on the team.

Now if only shooting down aircraft gave you poo poo for exp, it'd be both useful and not painful. As is, you get like a third of what a torpedo bomber carrier gets if they land even two torpedoes.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Strobe posted:

And your friendly arty also can keep shooting at stupid pubbies on the other team. It's an immensely rewarding role to play on the team.

Now if only shooting down aircraft gave you poo poo for exp, it'd be both useful and not painful. As is, you get like a third of what a torpedo bomber carrier gets if they land even two torpedoes.

*And* generally pubbies operating other carriers will just go with an 'A to B' line with their bombers when they allocate them to a target and not transit them over friendly ships to serve as picket/protection detail against fighters, so if you're in a match with particularly dumb fuckers, you can engage their precious aircraft over open water with little to no challenge.

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009
What is with shots going through ships but not doing any damage?

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Cool kids dodge torps in a battleship.

If your shots go through enemy hulls, aim farther forward, their hull is actually ahead of where your computer thinks it is. :iiam:

KurdtLives
Dec 22, 2004

Ladies and She-Hulks can't resist Murdock's Big Hallway Energy

Zettace posted:

What is with shots going through ships but not doing any damage?

I haven't played botes yet but I know in actual battles if an AP round is fired at a soft target it can pass through both sides of the hull without detonating. At the Battle of Samar, Japanese Battleships and Cruisers thoughy they were fighting American Cruisers and Fleet Carriers so they fired AP early in the battle; but since the Americans were actually in Destroyers and Escort Carriers the rounds would just pokes small holes in the ships [although I think one US ship took one in the engine which was dense enough to set off the shell].

Also, everyone should read about the Battle of Samar.

Artless Meat
Apr 7, 2008



Divebombers are pretty disappointing. I was hoping they would do a bit more damage, but I guess they're basically just the plane-version of HE rounds.

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

Artless Meat posted:

Divebombers are pretty disappointing. I was hoping they would do a bit more damage, but I guess they're basically just the plane-version of HE rounds.

They seem to do three times damage to destroyers compared to battleships...so I guess use them for taking our destroyers?

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Stevefin posted:

They seem to do three times damage to destroyers compared to battleships...so I guess use them for taking our destroyers?

Destroyers also seem to have a harder time dodging them too.

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
Boats weekend client is taking so painfully long to update I don't think I'll bother this time around.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

rossmum posted:

Boats weekend client is taking so painfully long to update I don't think I'll bother this time around.
No kidding? It's slow as a stock heavy with a broken engine and a dead driver, going uphill. Did they up the numbers of players a lot and didn't improve the servers or something?

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


I seem to be seeing a definite increase in frame rate this time around.

Now excuse me, work means I won't be able to play for several hours :saddowns:

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009
The update was available days ago and it was a quick download then.

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:

Poil posted:

No kidding? It's slow as a stock heavy with a broken engine and a dead driver, going uphill. Did they up the numbers of players a lot and didn't improve the servers or something?

I dunno, but I've also been having connection issues to NA West all day. Not sure if it's because of Boats overtaxing the server or what, but I think for once it isn't my shitlord housemates.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Factoid: Rossmum has moments of levity, they are likely painful due to detoxing from the rage.

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
Context: a stiff breeze would've wiped out my remaining HP, and in a moment of desperation I snapshot the KV-1S in the side. I expected his tracks to eat the HEAT shell. I was so very wrong.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




rossmum posted:

Boats weekend client is taking so painfully long to update I don't think I'll bother this time around.

I patched up on Thursday and it was fine :shrug:

Also Tahirovic and I got one battle in before it went down for maintenance, the fuckers :argh:

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jan 24, 2015

PirateBob
Jun 14, 2003
WOWS: What's the deal with AP shots? When are you supposed to use them, and are you supposed to aim them differently than HE?

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
Aim low and centre. You want to hit the armoured citadel, not the superstructure or bow/stern generally. AP is best used against larger ships, HE is safer for picking off destroyers with your battleship.

HE crits stuff and lights fires but well-aimed AP loving wrecks.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

At loving last! Three hours last night and over four more hours today until the botes finally decides to slowdownload and install properly.

Hey, Wargaming! Here's my NDA breaking review of your beta so far:
YOUR SERVERS ARE poo poo! AND YOU SHOULD INSERT 88MM HE SHELLS UP YOUR ASSES!!!!! :argh:

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Worth mentioning that Botes has a massive memory leak issue right now, I'm lasting maybe 5 battles between client restarts

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

A ping of 200+? I can't say I'm very surprised.

NTRabbit posted:

Worth mentioning that Botes has a massive memory leak issue right now, I'm lasting maybe 5 battles between client restarts
I wonder if that's related to why my computer blue screened after the first battle.

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Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Botes seems pretty fun so far, I'm only up to tier 3 so far but Destroyers are brilliant fun assuming you can manoeuvre them to get torps in.

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