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Orange Devil posted:I do. It's not a bad thing, and I kinda doubt your competency regarding this matter. What with all the monarchy and dressing your football players in garbage men colours.
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Randler posted:It's not a bad thing, and I kinda doubt your competency regarding this matter. What with all the monarchy and dressing your football players in garbage men colours. I don't see how that's related to language, but for what it's worth I'm against monarchy, not interested in football and have incredibly strong opinions about fashion.
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Here's the real important news in Germany: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30937492 Finally a country ready to "stand" up for tenants' rights.
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wayfinder posted:Or channel it into the AfD or another new AfD/NPD/FDP-like party. The protest voter is a sly and crafty individual.
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Cingulate posted:You guys really think Germans are overwhelmingly non-racist? Germans are generally pretty racist and also really bad at distinguishing between "not racist at all even a little bit" and "not actually attending racist rallies next to neonazis".
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Nobody who's racist thinks they're racist. Racists are bad and wrong, but I'm a good person and
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Eh, some racists I sadly know are pretty loving open about it. But yeah, most of them see themselfs as "very pragmatically realistic" not "racist". "Hej, I often go to Vietnamese restaurants, and may even think that the waitresses there are cute! I am totally no racist!" Which is kinda "Sarrazin.txt".
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Squalitude posted:Here's the real important news in Germany:  ("Western Civilization saved: Germans allowed to pee standing up", below: "The urine ruling p. 14/PEGIDA looking for new Führer p. 6,12", picture subtitle: "Real standup Germans: two men during the Rostock-Lichtenhagen riots of 1992")
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It's funny how no one of you want's to talk abot Khaled B. (the refugee killed in Dresden) after his murderer, a fellow refugee confessed, but what would have happened if some nazi-shithead had killed him? Probably at least a demonstration of solidarity in Dresden. As for the question whether people are really racists or not, they are probably not. They simply fear that they won't get as much money as they have now from the state when other people get some too. The best cure for this problem is of course to reduce government spending on all levels and which starves the racists/idiots (literally). There is a reason why they are called Nationalsozialisten. They are basically socialists with the caveat that they think German (or whatever nationality they have) workers are better then everyone else but that state still has to control everything. And that's the beauty of radical capitalism, it doesn't postulate that one human has to have power over another, everyone is equal and can do whatever he wants, as long as he doesn't hurt other people.
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GaussianCopula posted:And that's the beauty of radical capitalism, it doesn't postulate that one human has to have power over another You're a peach.
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There's not much to say about Khalid B. because now it's a run-of-the-mill escalated argument the likes of which happen every day, except for the investigation issue which hasn't changed. What's anyone supposed to do, have a Lichterkette in solidarity with those who don't do the dishes?Lucy Heartfilia posted:This is an awesome front page.
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My Lovely Horse posted:There's not much to say about Khalid B. because now it's a run-of-the-mill escalated argument the likes of which happen every day, except for the investigation issue which hasn't changed. What's anyone supposed to do, have a Lichterkette in solidarity with those who don't do the dishes? I can only fathom that Gauss is hinting at a case of reverse-racism here. Because he is a peach like that.
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People reading this forum as a historical record hundreds of years from now are going to think 'peach' is slang for 'rear end in a top hat'.
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Disinterested posted:People reading this forum as a historical record hundreds of years from now are going to think 'peach' is slang for 'rear end in a top hat'. Well, it is.
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GaussianCopula posted:It's funny how no one of you want's to talk abot Khaled B. (the refugee killed in Dresden) after his murderer, a fellow refugee confessed, but what would have happened if some nazi-shithead had killed him? Probably at least a demonstration of solidarity in Dresden. - What is there to talk about? People kill each other all the time for the stupidest human reasons. Even more so if they are poor and uneducated. It would have been completely different if it turned out to be organized political violence against minorities. - Immigrant are financially a net benefit to Germany(on average). This is not about money. - Well you see, Capitalism is like a public company. It was completely run into the ground by a moron CEO and everyone ditched their Capitalism shares to buy Social Democracy. SD has a good return and pays nice dividends. You really have no else to blame than the CEO of Capitalism for being a retard and incompetent. The free market has spoken, don't question the market please.
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GaussianCopula posted:And that's the beauty of radical capitalism, it doesn't postulate that one human has to have power over another, everyone is equal and can do whatever he wants, as long as he doesn't hurt other people. I think you confused radical anarcho-communism with capitalism there. In radical capitalism, no-one can do anything because no-one has any money. Well, except for the super-rich. I guess the lesson here is we can all starve equally, first everyone not super-rich, then the super-rich because no-one is making them a sandwich anymore.  If you're not a human though, this will totally work out in your favour since after the last humans have starved to death, the world will be free again. For animals and plants, radical capitalism works just fine. As long as they don't do this poo poo themselves, of course.
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GaussianCopula posted:They simply fear that they won't get as much money as they have now from the state when other people get some too. The best cure for this problem is of course to reduce government spending on all levels and which starves the racists/idiots (literally).  In other news: http://www.spiegel.de/schulspiegel/reichsbuerger-waldorfschulen-fuerchten-unterwanderung-durch-rechte-a-1014740.html quote:Im Sommer war der Geschäftsführer einer Waldorfschule in Rendsburg entlassen worden, weil er Kontakte zu den Reichsbürgern hatte. Reichsbürger behaupten häufig, dass das Deutsche Reich fortbestehe und zweifeln an der Rechtmäßigkeit der Bundesrepublik und deren Verfassungsorganen. Einige weigern sich, Steuern zu zahlen, und geben eigene Währungen oder Ausweise aus. 
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Reichsbürger behaupten nicht, dass das deutsche Reich fortbesteht, sondern dass das deutsche Reich fortbesteht und nicht mit der Bundesrepublik identisch sei. 
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Nektu posted:
Oh, didn't you know? Those guys are awesome, my uncle's stepdad was one of those and claimed that he was the prime minister of Prussia or somesuch. Basically they claim that the third Reich never ceased to exist and that the state we live in is actually an illegitimate construct, erected by the Allies after WWII. Germany's answer to the freemen on the land, basically. They like to refer to a verdict by the Bundesverfassungsgericht from the 70s which states that indeed the Deutsches Reich did not cease to exist in 1945, but conveniently forget to cite the next part which states that it reformed instead as the Federal Republic of Germany.
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System Metternich posted:Oh, didn't you know? Those guys are awesome, my uncle's stepdad was one of those and claimed that he was the prime minister of Prussia or somesuch. Maybe we can forward their addresses to the Greek people who still think they are owed money because of some forced-loans to the 3rd Reich. Wouldn't they logically have to pay that?
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Randler posted:Reichsbürger behaupten nicht, dass das deutsche Reich fortbesteht, sondern dass das deutsche Reich fortbesteht und nicht mit der Bundesrepublik identisch sei. Not all Reichsbürger are equal, I actually know some dudes from the former Freistaat Flaschenhals (look it up, it is pretty hilarious) who are have a not so bad claim on indepdence, since the French didnt properly declare war before ending them.
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They would if their claim was valid, but as there's a perfectly fine legal continuity between the Reich and today's Federal Republic I fear the issue isn't as clear-cut as that. E: referring to GaussianCopula's post
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Well, there are new and surprising things every day: Pegada in Erfurt: Hunderte demonstrieren gegen "Amerikanisierung des Abendlandes" http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/pegada-demo-in-erfurt-gegen-die-amerikanisierung-des-abendlandes-a-1014839.html quote:Es war die erste Demonstration der selbst ernannten "Patriotischen Europäer gegen die Amerikanisierung des Abendlandes": Rund 1000 Pegada-Anhänger sind in Erfurt auf 600 Gegner getroffen. Es kam zu Pfeifkonzerten und Gerangel. Just as delusional as the Pegida folks. I'm not sure why they have chosen such a similar name, given that their two causes don't have that much in common.
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quote:Ich finde, mit den Menschen müssen wir besser in Kontakt kommen", sagte der Wirtschaftsminister, der seine Teilnahme als rein privat deklarierte. "Reden ist das Einzige, was man in der Demokratie machen kann." What a surprise. Sigmar "Making up false statistics about foreigners is okay" Gabriel wants to have closer contact to PEGIDA. 
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Torrannor posted:Well, there are new and surprising things every day: The US should hop on the "throw money at right wingers" bandwagon so we can have Patriotische Europäer gegen die Putinisierung des Abendlandes, too 
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Not that I feel that the USA are beyond criticism, but I can't wrap my head around how you can look towards Putin's Russia for any kind of inspiration.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Not that I feel that the USA are beyond criticism, but I can't wrap my head around how you can look towards Putin's Russia for any kind of inspiration. It's mostly a reflex for some people to look to Russia whenever they notice that the US are not the land of milk and honey. You can usually spot them by looking at who quotes Russia Today without a hint of irony.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Not that I feel that the USA are beyond criticism, but I can't wrap my head around how you can look towards Putin's Russia for any kind of inspiration. Putin is, kind of, filling the "red meat conservative" niche. As an added bonus, you surely cant be racist if your idol is a foreigner! If someone is an American and doesnt like gays, he can vote republican. If he is German, there actually isnt that much represenation for bigots in the German parliament, so they look elsewhere. One can also legitimatly see Russia as the lesser of two evils compared to the USA. Key talking points for that: -Russia killed less people, particularly outside of her borders, then the USA did. -Russia is a lot weaker then the USA, in some fields also weaker then Germany. -To get hosed by Russia, one has to do quite a bit more to antogonize them then to get hosed by the USA. -There is an automatic economic balancing mechanism against Russian aggression. No such mechanism exists to make US aggression more costly, although China may change this mid term. Psychologically, one is nearly always more hostile towards someone own boss then towards someone else boss. The grass always seems a bit greener on the other side.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Not that I feel that the USA are beyond criticism, but I can't wrap my head around how you can look towards Putin's Russia for any kind of inspiration. Because Russia has been our friend since 1945 and the NATO-junta, led by the USA just wants a nuclear war between Europe and Russia so they can make money off it before turning to new partners in the pacific region, duh.
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Torrannor posted:Just as delusional as the Pegida folks. I'm not sure why they have chosen such a similar name, given that their two causes don't have that much in common. I'm completely in favour of the naming convention. Just look at lovely names like "Tea Party". Reading the name I have no idea who this movement is for or what they oppose. Are they for or against tea? I feel overwhelmed as a consumer in situations like that. Make political movement names DIN compliant.
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Maybe this is naive, but thinking about it, Ausländerfeindlichkeit is not quite the same thing as racism, and not the same thing as what the people in the US who do racist things and are racist do and believe. It's also not the same thing as being against foreigners. It's just ... Ausländerfeindlichkeit. A bit of racism, a bit of violent nationalism, a bit of something, I don't even know.
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Well done antifa, well done! /sarcasm off http://www.focus.de/regional/hamburg/eiern-schneebaellen-pyrotechnik-teilnehmer-einer-demo-gegen-sexualkunde-attackiert_id_4429499.html
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While those Antifa dudes can go ahead and die in a fire for throwing poo poo at a demonstration of parents/children/generic idiots for all I care, are we seriously aufkläring our kids at age 7 these days? Is South Park real life now?
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Duzzy Funlop posted:While those Antifa dudes can go ahead and die in a fire for throwing poo poo at a demonstration of parents/children/generic idiots for all I care, are we seriously aufkläring our kids at age 7 these days? 3rd and 4th class so to answer your question: yes. But we also have to include LGBT* (I included the * for everything that might not be captured by LGBT, like SM and stuff)
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GaussianCopula posted:But we also have to include LGBT* (I included the * for everything that might not be captured by LGBT, like SM and stuff) 
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niethan posted:There a problem with that? Regardless of whether or not you think it's a good idea on paper, it's a pretty safe bet to assume the implementation will suck tremendously.
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