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Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

I'm really liking the Tier 7 cruiser for Japan botes, its very punchy

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Artless Meat
Apr 7, 2008



Poil posted:

Airplanes ignore that. But you'll see them teleport occasionally. And they sometimes bug out completely and just circle refusing to attack for no apparent reason. Torpedo bombers will randomly decide to fire wide spread hitting with only one instead of five shots. Fighters vs fighters doesn't seem to work most of the time, where both groups will just get stuck not shooting or moving for long periods of time.

The non-biplane dive bombers aren't too bad against battleships. They always hit and have a very high chance of fire which will cause the pubbie to press the repair button and then you send in the torps to strike him making nice long lasting holes in his hull while he's helpless to fix his poo poo tub.

The torpedo bomber spread is them panicking from taking heavy AA fire/fighters on their tail. I've had fighters just freeze in the sky,but it might just be a bugged/missing animation,because they usually still use up ammo and take/give damage.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
1000 tickets is not enough, sometimes that poo poo is capped too fast.

And tanks is 10x worse than normal this weekend.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

Artless Meat posted:

Pubbies seem to get really mad when you mention the Yamato never sank another ship.
World of Warships: Where the wehraboos are actually just weeaboos. The circle is closed.

KurdtLives
Dec 22, 2004

Ladies and She-Hulks can't resist Murdock's Big Hallway Energy

Foxtrot_13 posted:

Is it the same as when you say Rommel was a war criminal?
I thought he was one of the least warcrimey German generals. And he didn't rat out the conspiracy to assassinate dur fuhrer. Or is this just to troll wehraboos? That would be okay.

Nordick posted:

World of Warships: Where the wehraboos are actually just weeaboos. The circle is closed.
:aaaaa:

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Nordick posted:

World of Warships: Where the wehraboos are actually just weeaboos. The circle is closed.

I've had a lot of people pine in open chat for the Bismark and some other german boat that started with a V or a Y or something like that.

KurdtLives
Dec 22, 2004

Ladies and She-Hulks can't resist Murdock's Big Hallway Energy

Hellsau posted:

I've had a lot of people pine in open chat for the Bismark and some other german boat that started with a V or a Y or something like that.

I feel like most of the German capital ships spent the war hiding in Norwegian fjords.

Dunno-Lars
Apr 7, 2011
:norway:

:iiam:



Hellsau posted:

I've had a lot of people pine in open chat for the Bismark and some other german boat that started with a V or a Y or something like that.

Can't wait for the Bismarch to come out, so I can roleplay it historically. In a fjord all game without firing a shot.

For those in the alpha, when will the alpha servers be up again? Could I have alpha access even if I haven't received a mail or have access to the alpha forums? I don't have access to the beta forums on the EU forums despite weekend tester (at least last time I checked).

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!
Playing low tier destroyers with game experience feels unfair. I got 4500 base experience in the Tachibana, by sinking every ship on the enemy team

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Dunno-Lars posted:

Can't wait for the Bismarch to come out, so I can roleplay it historically. In a fjord all game without firing a shot.

That was actually Tirpitz.

Also, I am going to pretend all kills in this LeFH18B2 game was pure skill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQQsB3wYIas
The ROF on the Lefh18B2 is so ridiculous that I have started to fire the first shot before the reticle have zoomed in, since the reload is on par with the aim time.

Hellsau posted:

Oh boy oh boy I see a juicy 1390 in my Batchat, gotta get that ram kill!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMhMyydCOf8

I thought you didn't play tier10s anymore cause you hate pubbies so much.
Apparently you are a liar.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Cardiac posted:

I thought you didn't play tier10s anymore cause you hate pubbies so much.
Apparently you are a liar.

I need a ram kill and what better tank to ram with than the gofast mobile? Also don't need to survive it.
I
And the Tirpitz was the other wehraboo boat the pubs really want. Can we blame the History Channel for this?

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




German surface ships rarely fought and were all pretty ordinary technically and in sailor skill. Try bringing up the Graf Spee, the ship that scuttled itself in fear of a carrier that wasn't in the same ocean.

How they can fanboy that poo poo I don't know.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

Artless Meat posted:

Pubbies seem to get really mad when you mention the Yamato never sank another ship.

Technically untrue, she's usually credited with sinking the escort carrier Gambier Bay at the Battle off Samar. After the Chikuma hit her engine room so she was dead in the water, and after Yamato had advanced to nearly point-blank range. Very :downsgun: for the pride of the IJN, but it seems like her oversized guns had trouble hitting much of anything. She was constantly on gunnery practice, and earlier in the war Yamamoto took the rare step of officially rebuking her captain over its poor record in tests. Yamato was definitely an overpriced hotel, no question.

I'm really hoping they balance the Long Lance by giving ships that carry it a chance of randomly exploding. An escort carrier at Samar managed to sink a heavy cruiser with a single 5-inch shell because the shock from the impact set off the torpedoes. IJN Captains would sometimes jettison their torpedoes when they came under air attack because oh god, even a near miss could set these things off. And some of the Kuma-class cruisers had 40 loving torpedo tubes :supaburn:

Dunno-Lars posted:

Can't wait for the Bismarch to come out, so I can roleplay it historically. In a fjord all game without firing a shot.

Hey now, Bismarck at least had a good kill. She aced the Hood (albeit with a lucky shot) and beat the hell out of the Prince of Wales. Thinking they could sail a battleship into the Atlantic to kill cargo ships without the entire Royal Navy coming to kill it was idiotic, but that's Hitler meth for you. The actual ship was quite good.

Arishtat
Jan 2, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILGOY2bSU2Y

It's a long one but I promise that the end is worth watching.

Arishtat fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Jan 26, 2015

Dunno-Lars
Apr 7, 2011
:norway:

:iiam:



Dunno-Lars posted:

Can't wait for the Bismarch to come out, so I can roleplay it historically. In a fjord all game without firing a shot.

Should have said Bismarch class, couldn't remember the name of the one in the fjords... Tirpitz is a Bismarch class, right? Or did I mess up twice?

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Vengarr posted:

Hey now, Bismarck at least had a good kill. She aced the Hood (albeit with a lucky shot) and beat the hell out of the Prince of Wales. Thinking they could sail a battleship into the Atlantic to kill cargo ships without the entire Royal Navy coming to kill it was idiotic, but that's Hitler meth for you. The actual ship was quite good.

I thought Prinz Eugen was generally credited with the kill shot? PoW had part of her main battery fail because she was so new that they hadn't been able to complete full sea trials.

Bismark was just an average battleship by the standard of the KGV, Richlieu, North Carolina and South Dakota. Did orders of magnitude less than bad German tanks for the same mythical reputation

Dunno-Lars posted:

Should have said Bismarch class, couldn't remember the name of the one in the fjords... Tirpitz is a Bismarch class, right? Or did I mess up twice?

It is, you're right. Could roleplay Blucher, sunk in a fjord by a torpedo and an officer both made for service in WW1 :v:

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Jan 26, 2015

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
Yamato may have been a giant useless piece of poo poo best put to service as an aerial bombing target (so, a battleship then), but god drat was she a fine looking thing.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
The best thing about the Yamato class is that 1 or 2 of them got converted to carriers... Massive carriers that could launch up to 45 airplanes! :downs:

Zettace posted:

So World of Warships is kind of fun. It's a decent game but there's a huge sync issue were ships are not actually where the game says they are. Ships are frequently in a different spot as displayed graphically and thus makes aiming impossible. Shots that hit dead on will just go through and do no damage but shots that hit the water in front of the ship will sometimes give you a "hit" which really ruins the atmosphere of the game.

Are you sure your're not just over-penning? It's entirely possible to shoot through lightly armoured ships with AP for little to no damage, and if you hit the water in front of a ship you could still hit the forward hull. Sure, it could be lag issues, but it might not be.

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

NTRabbit posted:

I thought Prinz Eugen was generally credited with the kill shot? PoW had part of her main battery fail because she was so new that they hadn't been able to complete full sea trials.

Bismark was just an average battleship by the standard of the KGV, Richlieu, North Carolina and South Dakota. Did orders of magnitude less than bad German tanks for the same mythical reputation

I think who sank the Hood is just as debatable as who sank the Bismark, But I think its more credited to Bismark due to the ship exploded on its volley

But as for tech. Well its a battleship, All you can do is get bigger and better? though I think it had more modern AAA guns, since apparently they where so advanced they could not hit a swordfish :v:

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Darkrenown posted:

The best thing about the Yamato class is that 1 or 2 of them got converted to carriers... Massive carriers that could launch up to 45 airplanes! :downs:


Are you sure your're not just over-penning? It's entirely possible to shoot through lightly armoured ships with AP for little to no damage, and if you hit the water in front of a ship you could still hit the forward hull. Sure, it could be lag issues, but it might not be.

Shinano was the carrier, dead cert to be the Japanese tier 10. Also guarantee you the Yorktown class is going to be a premium ship, probably under the Enterprise name

You can actually shoot through the Ranger between the flight deck and the hull and splash the ocean on the other side, I was doing it last night

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Jan 26, 2015

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

NTRabbit posted:

I thought Prinz Eugen was generally credited with the kill shot? PoW had part of her main battery fail because she was so new that they hadn't been able to complete full sea trials.

Wikipedia says it was Bismarck, would it lie?

I remember Sinking the Bismarck said it was the Bis that landed the killshot. Robert Ballard would never lie.

NTRabbit posted:

Shinano was the carrier, dead cert to be the Japanese tier 10. Also guarantee you the Yorktown class is going to be a premium ship, probably under the Enterprise name

I'm willing to bet it'll be Taihou instead. Best, most advanced carrier the IJN ever built, and look, an armored flight deck! No, I don't smell gas, what are you talking about? Try turning the fans on and see if that helps.

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009

Darkrenown posted:

The best thing about the Yamato class is that 1 or 2 of them got converted to carriers... Massive carriers that could launch up to 45 airplanes! :downs:


Are you sure your're not just over-penning? It's entirely possible to shoot through lightly armoured ships with AP for little to no damage, and if you hit the water in front of a ship you could still hit the forward hull. Sure, it could be lag issues, but it might not be.
I'm shooting HE.

And when I said in front of the ship I was talking about a good 20 meters in front of the ship.

It's the same for my ship. The enemy shells are landing in front of my ship graphically but then my engine would die meaning it was the rear that was hit.

What's weird is that my ping is in the 80 range and my fps is fine as well so I have no idea what's causing the sync issue.

Zettace fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Jan 26, 2015

Largepotato
Jan 18, 2007

Spurd.
Does Botes include 2 versions of ships that got extensively modified between the wars? For example, pre-1930 Kongo is a lot different to WW2 Kongo.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Largepotato posted:

Does Botes include 2 versions of ships that got extensively modified between the wars? For example, pre-1930 Kongo is a lot different to WW2 Kongo.

Botes have different hulls and equipment that you can buy much like tanks so you can play the standard bote or up-gunned version.

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

Cardiac posted:

That was actually Tirpitz.

Technically, Tirpitz did fire in anger once;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Zitronella

:hitler: Pride of the Kriegsmarine :hitler:

Artless Meat
Apr 7, 2008



Vengarr posted:


I'm willing to bet it'll be Taihou instead. Best, most advanced carrier the IJN ever built, and look, an armored flight deck! No, I don't smell gas, what are you talking about? Try turning the fans on and see if that helps.

I'm wondering what they're going to do for other nations carriers. Russia is going to be the next nation added, and they didn't have any carriers. The Germans had some paper designs at least, and one that was forever under construction.

Artless Meat fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Jan 26, 2015

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
Really? It seems loving insane to add Russia to botes before the UK, and Germany + Italy should probably be in before Russia too. russianbias.jpg

Infected
Oct 17, 2012

Salt Incarnate


Darkrenown posted:

Really? It seems loving insane to add Russia to botes before the UK, and Germany + Italy should probably be in before Russia too. russianbias.jpg

Yup, though we knew about this for quite some time. It's literally because russian pubbies won't care about the game if there are no russian botes in it so they have to add them as soon as possible.

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

Darkrenown posted:

Really? It seems loving insane to add Russia to botes before the UK, and Germany + Italy should probably be in before Russia too. russianbias.jpg

Next was supposed to be UK, But they went with Russia as the next tree cause of the huge nationalism pride of their major player base, which they say is Russian :shrug:

But it will mean we should than get a UK tree within the first year of them releasing the Russian one. I really hope they do not do what navy field did for their Russian tree

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:

Darkrenown posted:

The best thing about the Yamato class is that 1 or 2 of them got converted to carriers... Massive carriers that could launch up to 45 airplanes! :downs:

One. Shinano was half-built and was a lighter armoured reworking of the design (armour was pulled from her belt and turrets to be placed elsewhere around the ship), but it was realised that Japan could only support so many giant fuckoff harbour-queen battleships and so she was converted into a "support carrier". The idea wasn't for her to be a proper combat carrier herself, more like a mothership for ferrying and servicing of other carriers' air wings.

There was another battleship based on the Shinano improvements under construction, but with the war priorities changed and she was broken up while ~30% complete IIRC. That left only Yamato and Musashi as active serving vessels. Both saw some combat but as stated before Yamato was pretty much just finishing off a doomed ship anyway, not the most glorious of combat records. Musashi was lost to air attack while in action, then Shinano got torpedoed in on the way to harbour by a sub and Yamato also fell victim to the USN's aircraft while in action. More than the Germans could say for Tirpitz, at any rate, and at least Shinano wasn't full of loving lumber.

Of all the great battleships of WWII, I'd say Yamato and Musashi were the best-looking, closely followed by the Iowas and then the Nelsons for comedy "why is half of my ship missing" points. That streamlined funnel, uguuuuu~

rossmum fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Jan 26, 2015

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Stevefin posted:

Next was supposed to be UK, But they went with Russia as the next tree cause of the huge nationalism pride of their major player base, which they say is Russian :shrug:

But it will mean we should than get a UK tree within the first year of them releasing the Russian one. I really hope they do not do what navy field did for their Russian tree

I had seen somewhere they were hoping to have both the Russian and UK trees n before the end of the beta.

Desuwa
Jun 2, 2011

I'm telling my mommy. That pubbie doesn't do video games right!
I think for WoWS they're going to relax the requirement WoT has for every nation needing to have a line up to t10 for each type. Hell they should relax it for WoT, at bare minimum in the case of arty. We don't really need more arty and I'd be incredibly angry for a nation to not get included because they couldn't find arty, of all things, for it.

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:

Stevefin posted:

I think who sank the Hood is just as debatable as who sank the Bismark, But I think its more credited to Bismark due to the ship exploded on its volley

But as for tech. Well its a battleship, All you can do is get bigger and better? though I think it had more modern AAA guns, since apparently they where so advanced they could not hit a swordfish :v:

Bismarck's crew claim they scuttled her, and in all likelihood that's what happened. When they found her wreck her superstructure was pounded into crap. Her hull was largely intact but for the torp damage at the stern (not bad enough to sink her) and a large piece that looked like it had been blown outwards - obviously not the work of the RN, and probably what finally took her down.

Honestly the point is kind of moot because she'd been dead long before she finally slipped under the waves. Whoever it was that sunk her just put her, and a lot of her crew, out of their misery.

Rorac
Aug 19, 2011

Desuwa posted:

I think for WoWS they're going to relax the requirement WoT has for every nation needing to have a line up to t10 for each type. Hell they should relax it for WoT, at bare minimum in the case of arty. We don't really need more arty and I'd be incredibly angry for a nation to not get included because they couldn't find arty, of all things, for it.


Are there any actual plans for Japanese/Chinese artillery? I don't recall them ever mentioning any. Hell, they don't even have TD's yet for those nations.

Largepotato
Jan 18, 2007

Spurd.

rossmum posted:

One. Shinano was half-built and was a lighter armoured reworking of the design (armour was pulled from her belt and turrets to be placed elsewhere around the ship), but it was realised that Japan could only support so many giant fuckoff harbour-queen battleships and so she was converted into a "support carrier". The idea wasn't for her to be a proper combat carrier herself, more like a mothership for ferrying and servicing of other carriers' air wings.

There was another battleship based on the Shinano improvements under construction, but with the war priorities changed and she was broken up while ~30% complete IIRC. That left only Yamato and Musashi as active serving vessels. Both saw some combat but as stated before Yamato was pretty much just finishing off a doomed ship anyway, not the most glorious of combat records. Musashi was lost to air attack while in action, then Shinano got torpedoed in harbour by a sub and Yamato also fell victim to the USN's aircraft while in action. More than the Germans could say for Tirpitz, at any rate, and at least Shinano wasn't full of loving lumber.

Of all the great battleships of WWII, I'd say Yamato and Musashi were the best-looking, closely followed by the Iowas and then the Nelsons for comedy "why is half of my ship missing" points. That streamlined funnel, uguuuuu~

Shinano didn't sink in harbour. She was intercepted while on transit to Kure.

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
Yeah, I was just about to correct that. Brain substituted "in transit to" for "in", my bad.

Desuwa
Jun 2, 2011

I'm telling my mommy. That pubbie doesn't do video games right!

Rorac posted:

Are there any actual plans for Japanese/Chinese artillery? I don't recall them ever mentioning any. Hell, they don't even have TD's yet for those nations.

Lines exist. Even WG is has admitted they're slow to add them because they don't know what the gently caress they're doing with arty and don't want to upset the "balance" we have.

Hurts that the, or one of the, proposed t10 Japanese arty had a 310mm gun from a warship, which is significantly larger than the T92 or CGC.


In order for a new nation to be added it had to have mediums, heavies, arty, and tds to tier 10. They already relaxed the 2-10 requirement they used to have for the Chinese line, where finding low tiers at all required them to use lend-lease vehicles.

Desuwa fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Jan 26, 2015

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Rorac posted:

Are there any actual plans for Japanese/Chinese artillery? I don't recall them ever mentioning any. Hell, they don't even have TD's yet for those nations.

Last I heard they were working on a Chinese TD line as a low priority, and the Japanese heavy tank brick line

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

NTRabbit posted:

It is, you're right. Could roleplay Blucher, sunk in a fjord by a torpedo and an officer both made for service in WW1 :v:

It gets better. The torpedoes were made for the Austrian (OK, Austrian/Hungarian) navy, by a company that invented the modern torpedo. So it was literally sunk by the oldest possible torpedoes in the world.

I have a nice crystal thing with a blob of bunker oil from Blücher sitting at my parents' house, incidentally: I did a work placement week in high school with the Norwegian EPA, and they had them made to commemorate them draining the wreck of oil sometime in the '90s.

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Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon
tbh the blucher went through that sound under the impression that the coastal fortress would only fire warning shots, which also was the case. however, the dude in charge had his own interpretation of protocol, which lead to the blucher getting boned by lucky hits from 28cm shells at point blank distance + a bunch of 15cms.

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