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T1g4h posted:No joke. That thing looked seriously confusing. And yet I can't stop wishing I had one now The props run at an RPM set by the throttles. Differential steering was controlled by blade pitch via the pedals. At high enough speed, the rudders have enough airflow to be effective. The coordination to work all that though is the real challenge. Especially so because making corrections requires the operator to be way ahead of the hover craft.
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holocaust bloopers posted:If I recall that segment correctly, relative to the other two cars, his was the absolute worst. It was bad even for a supercar. The other problem is (as best I can confirm from a quick search) the GT only has a 17.5 gallon tank while the F430 and the Zonda both have 25 gallons.
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Yeah 860g would be just the frame. It's probably around 7kg total.holocaust bloopers posted:Clarkson owned one. He had nothing but problems with it, which explains his dismissal of the new one. To be fair, I think most of the problems were due to the dealer installed aftermarket alarm and he liked the car itself. jamal fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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That bike is about 6.5 - 7 kgs. My TdF superbike is a touch over 6.5kg with carbon wheels, Hammond's looks like it has aero alloys which are a tad heavier. One hell of a nice bit of kit still however, Dura Ace Di2 is some amazing groupset
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jamal posted:Yeah 860g would be just the frame. It's probably around 7kg total. The way read it, it was an insurance mandated, dealer installed aftermarket alarm (and he bitched about it a bit in this episode too). Didn't Jeremy already have his Ford GT when they made that road trip? I could see him being a bit more unforgiving of the poor fuel consumption if he's used to it not being the BBC's money pouring into the tank.
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Weird that Hammond was ripping into the Huracan for being boring, then the montage was shown which included clips of him cheering in the Aventador, which he actually called boring, too. Also, if it contains the VAG's dual-clutch, god help the owners...
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Petekill posted:Loved the Goldeneye soundtrack for St. Petersburg. They got in a couple songs from the Inception soundtrack as well. That's for the frame only. The whole bike weighs closer to 15-16 lbs. still insanely light.
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Cat Hatter posted:The way read it, it was an insurance mandated, dealer installed aftermarket alarm (and he bitched about it a bit in this episode too). As far as I know that france road trip was literally in HIS Ford GT.
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holocaust bloopers posted:The props run at an RPM set by the throttles. Differential steering was controlled by blade pitch via the pedals. At high enough speed, the rudders have enough airflow to be effective. So, how did he have it going backwards in a few shots? That seems like one of those things that shouldn't be possible but he was somehow managing to do pull off these slow 360s while maintaining forward momentum.
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T1g4h posted:So, how did he have it going backwards in a few shots? That seems like one of those things that shouldn't be possible but he was somehow managing to do pull off these slow 360s while maintaining forward momentum. Push a shopping trolley down an aisle, it'll do the same.
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T1g4h posted:So, how did he have it going backwards in a few shots? That seems like one of those things that shouldn't be possible but he was somehow managing to do pull off these slow 360s while maintaining forward momentum. Isn't that exactly what momentum is?
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Same reason why a car can spin or go backwards without actually being in reverse: momentum.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Same reason why a car can spin or go backwards without actually being in reverse: momentum. Particularly since the air cushion over water has virtually no friction. e: I re-watched the Hover Van episode recently and it's definitely one of the funniest build challenges they've had. psydude fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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T1g4h posted:So, how did he have it going backwards in a few shots? That seems like one of those things that shouldn't be possible but he was somehow managing to do pull off these slow 360s while maintaining forward momentum. C.O.G. (Course Over Ground) and heading are independent of each other, especially in a hovercraft. Since it's non-displacement, it can spin on axis easily while traveling in what ever direction you want it to, it doesn't have the same resistance that a regular v/l has. Think of it like curling. The boats I work on can do the same thing, only slower, since they have Voith Schneider propeller systems at each end, which makes it easy to do that if you've had some practice. Some of the captains used to do this when they had no passengers on board right across the harbour, just for the heck of it. They don't do it anymore. If you have a DynoPos system you could pre-program the v/l to do pretty much any pattern you want, depending on how good the hull/thruster system is.
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Residency Evil posted:That's for the frame only. The whole bike weighs closer to 15-16 lbs. still insanely light. Yep, 860 is the frame. I'd wager the entire [race] bike is right at the UCI race minimum of 6.8 kg (14.99 pounds).
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I'm finding it weird that they're hating on Lamborghini for the design being too restrained. Excluding the low production models Sesto Elemento and Veneno, the only model in recent history that had real crazy styling was the Murciélago SV.
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neckbeard posted:I'm finding it weird that they're hating on Lamborghini for the design being too restrained. Excluding the low production models Sesto Elemento and Veneno, the only model in recent history that had real crazy styling was the Murciélago SV. Its been a common complaint ever since Audi bought them. I don't think they need to rehash that every review though. Really though Lambo should just put out batshit models and if you want a boring reliable supercar buy the R8
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neckbeard posted:I'm finding it weird that they're hating on Lamborghini for the design being too restrained. Excluding the low production models Sesto Elemento and Veneno, the only model in recent history that had real crazy styling was the Murciélago SV. It's not new, though. They hated on the Aventador for it's tame design as well. As in, not outlandish enough. I seem to recall an episode were either Clarkson or Hammond said that a Lambo is only a Lambo when it looks as if its designer had two bottles of absinthe, or something along those lines. And the Huracan really looks over engineered, for lack of a better word.
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hopterque posted:As far as I know that france road trip was literally in HIS Ford GT. That's what I was thinking, since it would be a remarkable coincidence to find a second blue with white stripes GT for a road trip.
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Cat Hatter posted:That's what I was thinking, since it would be a remarkable coincidence to find a second blue with white stripes GT for a road trip. IT was it had isle of man plates.
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Well, good thing it had a better approach angle than the Zonda or he probably would have never left the parking garage.
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SpannerX posted:C.O.G. (Course Over Ground) and heading are independent of each other, especially in a hovercraft. Since it's non-displacement, it can spin on axis easily while traveling in what ever direction you want it to, it doesn't have the same resistance that a regular v/l has. Think of it like curling. The boats I work on can do the same thing, only slower, since they have Voith Schneider propeller systems at each end, which makes it easy to do that if you've had some practice. Some of the captains used to do this when they had no passengers on board right across the harbour, just for the heck of it. They don't do it anymore. Gotcha. Thanks for the detailed explanation  And yes guys, I got that it involved momentum, but for whatever reason my brain figured that sort of thing shouldn't really be possible, momentum or not, because the hovercraft used a pusher prop configuration and I sorta assumed the twin props would counteract the speed it already had before he started to spin. In other words, i'm bad at physics.
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Sensenmann posted:It's not new, though. They hated on the Aventador for it's tame design as well. As in, not outlandish enough. I seem to recall an episode were either Clarkson or Hammond said that a Lambo is only a Lambo when it looks as if its designer had two bottles of absinthe, or something along those lines. Series 21 episode 3: "Nobody should be allowed to design a Lamborghini unless they've just consumed two bottles of absinthe." And it was directly in response to the Huracan's design.
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After the preview of this series they showed in the first episode, i'm already incredibly stoked to see what looked to be an ambulance challenge. Also, I'm pretty sure at one point I saw a Jeep Grand Cherokee, so some sort of SUV challenge to come later maybe? This season is going to be awesome
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Could be worse, Clarkson signs three year deal. May and Hammond should follow suit.
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That was a pretty satisfying old-school episode, despite the hackneyed audi-lambo talking points. I swore pretty loudly in sympathy with Hammond when he ate it and my toddler started yelling OH poo poo OH poo poo OH poo poo, going to write an angry letter to top so-called gear.
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Scrambles posted:That was a pretty satisfying old-school episode, despite the hackneyed audi-lambo talking points. I swore pretty loudly in sympathy with Hammond when he ate it and my toddler started yelling OH poo poo OH poo poo OH poo poo, going to write an angry letter to top so-called gear. Yeah that looked pretty drat painful. However I can't believe he thought he could ride over the street car track and not get caught by it.
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Yeah even as someone who hasn't biked for years, my first instinct would be to hop the front wheel over the gap. I thought the opening episode was okay, nothing too spectacular, but it was very Top Gear, and to have that back I am glad. Shame that their commentary on the new GT was basically "I didn't like the old one."
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T1g4h posted:After the preview of this series they showed in the first episode, i'm already incredibly stoked to see what looked to be an ambulance challenge. Also, I'm pretty sure at one point I saw a Jeep Grand Cherokee, so some sort of SUV challenge to come later maybe? This season is going to be awesome It was a regular Cherokee: (go to image 2 of 10) http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/series-22-top-gear-preview-2015-1-2 quote:The V stands for value Looks like Hammond gave it a new paintjob at some point: 
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I laughed at Clarkson in the heaving SUV yelling "WHAT IN GODS NAME IS HAPPENING". Looking forward to this series.
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inklesspen posted:Series 21 episode 3: "Nobody should be allowed to design a Lamborghini unless they've just consumed two bottles of absinthe." Really? I thought it was earlier. Now I wonder what they said about the Aventador. 
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Something something too sterile, lacking typical Lamborghini flamboyance. But it was more about the handling, instead of looks.
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Cat Hatter posted:It was a regular Cherokee: (go to image 2 of 10) http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/series-22-top-gear-preview-2015-1-2 Oh god yes, that's even better 
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I can't tell for certain, but it looks like Jeremy has a vauxhall frontera for that challenge, sold in the states as the isuzu amigo. So if I'm lucky, i get to see my first car pitted against my brother's first car.
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They're finally doing a Germany/Australia style battle with TGUK and TGUSA? Awesome. I hope they have one of those fadeout gags where James and Rutledge are both monologuing about something simultaneously. I assume they will also pair up Richard ad Tanner, leaving Jeremy and Adam to do something stupid and destructive.
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