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Just got my trinity out of the oven, anybody got any good builds for her? I heard blessing got nerfed and wasnt the way to go anymore.
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Bob Wins posted:Just got my trinity out of the oven, anybody got any good builds for her? I heard blessing got nerfed and wasnt the way to go anymore. The most common one is Power Strength, Range, and minimum Duration for Energy Vampire spamming on farming missions. In that case, its Overextended, Stretch Fleeting Expertise Transient Fortitude, Blind Rage, Intensify Flow Redirection/Vitality. You can also swap out Blind Rage (like I do) for a second defensive mod, since you'll be pumping out so much energy as is - the increased Power Strength won't really add much when you're filling their pools in one go. Energy Vampire restores 25 energy (affected by power) per pulse. It pulses 4 times over whatever its duration is. So if you have no duration mods, it pulses on cast, and then 3 more times over nine seconds. If you have max duration, it'd be a pulse on cast, and then 3 pulses over... 25 seconds. So with minimum duration, you get all four pulses over 1.2 seconds or so. Which is much better. Brainbread fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Jan 26, 2015 19:27
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Trinity is one of the few frames where you can basically ignore efficiency, because of vampire. Draco builds for her start with max range, including overextended, then strength, then cram in whatever duration you can without hurting the other two (so no narrow minded, but the more Link duration you have to get yourself out of tight spots, the better). It lets you vampire things from across the map and keep your whole team topped off constantly. If you aren't doing Draco, you can dump some range for duration and give yourself more survival power from Link. (The duration thing from Vampire mentioned above is a thing, but whatever you put vampire on will automatically release all remaining energy ticks on death, so just bring a decent gun and shoot whatever you put energy on to get around the duration problem.) Trinity is a really good support frame in a game that doesn't place any emphasis on support roles except in a few niche places. She doesn't really need any design changes, she's one of the few frames where all four of her abilities are (mostly) good, what she needs is mission type and enemy AI changes. I hope they add more pure support frames in the future.. Coldbird fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Jan 26, 2015 19:31
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 That's how I build my trin for farming. I don't know if I've ever formad the frame, but definitely don't copy my polarities if I have. Besides the aura being a -, which is a given on every single frame. With this build you can swap redirection for vitality depending on what you're doing, and you pretty much aim at a point and press 2 until 30 minutes later when the mission ends. Quite exciting. If you forma trinity more you can put in intesify or vitality or primed flow+quick thinking, and if you're not space lazy like me you could have max transient foritutde and max blind rage. In the event you have a dumb party where the excals don't stand together, you can also swap between points and use your gun's zoom to make sure you hit those sick e.vamps. There's another build where you use Well of Life (1) and then Energy Vampire (2) right before it expires to instant kill mobs of any level. It scales well into pretty much anything on endless missions (even wave 100+), but I don't play trinity outside of draco. The traditional build where you use link and/or your ultimate pretty much sucks. I mean it's okay for a while but you're better off playing a crowd control or damage frame. Khorne fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Jan 26, 2015 19:57
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Wow, so, the weapon that's in the Nova Prime pack is... really darn good. Leagues better than my Braton.
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Jan 26, 2015 20:30
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Dumb question(s) from a noob: Do I have to unequip mods whenever I swap weapons? So if I have something built for Grineer and something for Corpus and they use the same mods, do I have to remove all and refit the other weapon whenever I swap? Similarly, do I have to unequip a weapon before I sell it? I just got all the component blueprints for a Rhino and they came out of the oven today. It looks like I have a couple of extra sets of blueprints which I could use to make more. Is there any reason to keep those and make more or should I just sell the extras for credits? Thanks!
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Jan 26, 2015 20:33
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No, no, and you can sell them.
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Jan 26, 2015 20:38
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Lord Wexia posted:Do I have to unequip mods whenever I swap weapons? So if I have something built for Grineer and something for Corpus and they use the same mods, do I have to remove all and refit the other weapon whenever I swap? Nope. Rifle mods can be used across all rifles you have without needing to equip them. If you level a mod beyond the capacity of one of your saved configurations, the game will warn you about this. Lord Wexia posted:Similarly, do I have to unequip a weapon before I sell it? Nope. Lord Wexia posted:I just got all the component blueprints for a Rhino and they came out of the oven today. It looks like I have a couple of extra sets of blueprints which I could use to make more. Is there any reason to keep those and make more or should I just sell the extras for credits? No. Sell those blueprints. But if you get any prime parts or prime blueprints, keep those as those can be traded with players or sold for ducats.
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Jan 26, 2015 20:39
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Regarding mods on weapons you sell, wasn't there some stupid poo poo a while ago where you did lose those?
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Jan 26, 2015 20:41
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Brackhar posted:Wow, so, the weapon that's in the Nova Prime pack is... really darn good. Leagues better than my Braton. Yeah congratulations, you now have one of the best weapons in the game. Build it for crit and it will serve you well.
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Jan 26, 2015 20:44
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Brackhar posted:Wow, so, the weapon that's in the Nova Prime pack is... really darn good. Leagues better than my Braton. The Soma Prime is the premier top tier weapon. It's a great thing to invest in, if a bit boring. Make sure you're taking advantage of its redonkulous crit stats.
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Jan 26, 2015 20:45
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SSNeoman posted:Nope. Rifle mods can be used across all rifles you have without needing to equip them. If you level a mod beyond the capacity of one of your saved configurations, the game will warn you about this. Thanks! It's a good QoL decision not to have to fiddle with mods that much. Now I just need to hit Mastery 4 so I can get another drat loadout slot.
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Jan 26, 2015 20:46
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OMGLASERPEWPEWPEW posted:What else do I have to do?
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Jan 26, 2015 21:07
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The Crooked Warden posted:The Soma Prime is the premier top tier weapon. It's a great thing to invest in, if a bit boring. Make sure you're taking advantage of its redonkulous crit stats. It always baffles me that in a game where you can get weapons that shoot lasers, cubes, giant nails, toxic sludge, streams of deadly confetti or even Sith lightning people still go for the ones that just straight up shoot bullets. Yeah the Soma is good but I can't stand how plain unexciting it is.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:08
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Morglon posted:It always baffles me that in a game where you can get weapons that shoot lasers, cubes, giant nails, toxic sludge, streams of deadly confetti or even Sith lightning people still go for the ones that just straight up shoot bullets. Yeah the Soma is good but I can't stand how plain unexciting it is. People like having the biggest numbers. It's the human condition.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:14
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BarkingSquirrel posted:You have to tell us your PSN name so we can play with you and give you things. I got tons of spare staple mods. PSN is Gestalt88.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:34
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Brainbread posted:Energy Vampire restores 25 energy (affected by power) per pulse. It pulses 4 times over whatever its duration is. So if you have no duration mods, it pulses on cast, and then 3 more times over nine seconds. If you have max duration, it'd be a pulse on cast, and then 3 pulses over... 25 seconds. So with minimum duration, you get all four pulses over 1.2 seconds or so. Which is much better. Except you don't need to minimize duration since EV will still replenish energy if you kill the marked target with a gun.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:35
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In my time playing the game (on and off like a year) almost every week I've gotten the 75% discount in plat.In fact I got two in the past week.Thinking really hard buying the 370 plat thing
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Jan 26, 2015 21:36
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Morglon posted:It always baffles me that in a game where you can get weapons that shoot lasers, cubes, giant nails, toxic sludge, streams of deadly confetti or even Sith lightning people still go for the ones that just straight up shoot bullets. Yeah the Soma is good but I can't stand how plain unexciting it is. Yeah this was the main reason I "downgraded" from a Soma to a four-forma Quanta. Shooting bullets at people is so boring.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:41
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There's room in my heart for bullets, lasers and explosions.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:47
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The problem with shooting bullets is that you're not pinning enemies to walls with arrows. I heard there's an automatic rifle that will do that. If there is, what's it's name? I want it.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:49
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Renegret posted:The problem with shooting bullets is that you're not pinning enemies to walls with arrows. That's the Boltor and the Boltor Prime. The pistol variants are the Bolto, Akbolto, and the syndicate version, the Telos Akbolto.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:50
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Boltor Prime is the other top dog for rifle DPS.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:51
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tlarn posted:That's the Boltor and the Boltor Prime. The pistol variants are the Bolto, Akbolto, and the syndicate version, the Telos Akbolto. is it as amazing as it sounds?
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Jan 26, 2015 21:51
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Boltor prime also happens to be one of the best weapons in the game, about even with the Soma P.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:51
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Renegret posted:is it as amazing as it sounds? I use Boltor Prime not because of it's amazing damage, but because you can send ragdolls flying at high speeds to the nearest wall. I love it.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:53
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Renegret posted:is it as amazing as it sounds? Pinning people to the walls and floor never stops being funny, and like others have said, the Boltor Prime is up there for one of the best weapons in the game with the added bonus of being way more ammo-efficient than the Soma Prime.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:54
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As someone who only started playing a couple of weeks ago, I don't have a huge amount of forma/potatoes to make subpar weapons useful. So I would want to have a weapon that I knew was good for doing high level tower etc before I started loving around with the more exotic stuff. I made a quanta and enjoy using it, but the default polarities suck and I only have so many formas. Not that I actually have a soma. I can't even get hikou prime parts together 
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Jan 26, 2015 21:57
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I've had way too much with the Paris so far, just launching dudes into the nether.Wordybird posted:I use Boltor Prime not because of it's amazing damage, but because you can send ragdolls flying at high speeds to the nearest wall. I love it. There's nothing quite like sending an arrow into a row of mans in a choke point and clearing a straight line through them, as a pile of bodies go flying off into the distance. I still laugh when I get a particularly brutal kill with it, I hope it never gets old.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:57
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Cicadalek posted:As someone who only started playing a couple of weeks ago, I don't have a huge amount of forma/potatoes to make subpar weapons useful. So I would want to have a weapon that I knew was good for doing high level tower etc before I started loving around with the more exotic stuff. I made a quanta and enjoy using it, but the default polarities suck and I only have so many formas. The reason you see people talking about sticking tons of Forma into crap weapons to make them "good" is because all of them are people who have been playing forever and have tons of Forma BPs from raiding the towers for every drop so that have literally nothing else to throw those Forma into. It's okay. 
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Jan 26, 2015 21:59
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Renegret posted:I've had way too much with the Paris so far, just launching dudes into the nether. It doesn't. The good news is, there's a stat that can make other weapons do the same thing-Punchthrough. So you can shred a line of people with the boltor or soma and have it go through a column of people.
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Jan 26, 2015 22:01
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I'm switching between a Braton Prime and the Prisma Gorgon from last week, both seem good if not ~the best~. I have half a Soma Prime that I'm tempted to just flip into a full prime warframe or two. Having played for a few weeks I'm coming to the conclusion that I should be putting more effort into getting/leveling mods than into getting new guns, but it all kinda happens at the same time anyway long-ass nips Diane fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Jan 26, 2015 22:04
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So I did 2 T4S's yesterday. One as a client that went to 40 no sweat and another as a host that went to ~31 where I was dropping (i.e. shot to pieces after ~18 minutes) constantly after a certain point. Couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong in the second considering that build had 2-3 dedicated survivability mods compared to the previous build's 0. Turns out it may have been the enemies perfect accuracy for shooting the host. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/381733-hosting-causes-drastic-increase-of-enemy-accuracy-please-read-de/ Apparently DE is now investigating this phenomenon, but from what I am seeing they seem to be able to reproduce the results. Apparently all the ninja flipping in the world doesn't help you much if you are hosting the game. Panzerkin3D fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Jan 26, 2015 22:16
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Shout out to Denzine, Panzerkin3D and another goon whose name I forgot for carrying me through two runs of the Tactical Alert yesterday. I've been playing with Kestrel + Astral Twilight since then and having way too much fun. General question: I'm hitting the mid game point where I've cleared most of the planets (everything except Ceres and Pluto), and want to start doing void stuff regularly. I've got some plat (~60 or so) left over from when I first picked up the game and payed $20 in closed beta (after which I forgot about it for a year) - is it worth it to buy a "top tier" weapon (Boltor Prime, Latron Prime, etc) now, or should I pump potatoes/forma into normal weapons that I've built while farming for prime parts. Checking price lists, it looks like I can afford a Boltor Prime and maybe a corrupted mod or two with the plat I've got. I'm not short on frame/weapon slots yet, so it's kinda tempting to jump straight to the good stuff rather than attempting T4 missions with mediocre gear.
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Jan 26, 2015 22:37
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I'd suggest grabbing one of the higher end Market BP, Clan Tech weapons, or Syndicate Weapons (Kohm, Quanta, Synoid Gammacor, other I am forgetting...) and tricking those out for void runs. They are good to have around anyway, and it helps you conserve plat for reactors/catalysts as needed. Also, check with clan chat to see if anyone has a spare set of something lying around that they don't mind parting with. Less likely than it used to be (due to the Void Trader), but a lot of people still have plenty of spares of things like the Latron Prime. Edit: No problem on the Tac Alert! That is what Goons are for.
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Jan 26, 2015 22:46
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plustwobonus posted:Shout out to Denzine, Panzerkin3D and another goon whose name I forgot for carrying me through two runs of the Tactical Alert yesterday. I've been playing with Kestrel + Astral Twilight since then and having way too much fun. It's not the worst idea, but Towers really aren't as crazy as you've probably built them up to be in your head. Pluto's roughly the same difficulty as T4 stuff (before corrupted nullifiers and bombards I'd have said Pluto was harder). I will say this, I farmed nearly everything you could get from the void with a plain 'ol Soma and a Rhino, so don't go thinking you need absolutely bonkers weapons for tower runs.
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Jan 26, 2015 22:56
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Ask me in game for a free Boltor Prime set. And yeah Towers really don't require that much prep. Mediocre equipment is better than what I usually use  T4 is the only time I actually bother to cobble together a set of good equipment. T3 and under can be easily done with goons.
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Jan 26, 2015 23:38
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Also anything under T4 is way easier than you're probably thinking and goons are just fine with people who are not using the "ideal" loadout. Requiring an absolutely min-maxed party with 6 forma weapons to even attempt a tower defense is something dumb pubbies do.
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Jan 26, 2015 23:52
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Its me, I was the dumb newbie who over prepared going into void towers. The game didn't do much to steer me in the right direction. And lack of match making for the void made it seem less appealing. Even through its pretty much trash in general.
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I've done a bit of T1 and T2 stuff with goons, but part of the build up in my head is that everyone was so built out I was essentially being carried the whole time. I guess the answer is just to play with goons instead of dealing with pubbie elitism (which is usually the right answer in every game). I just started working on Cephalon Suda rep for a Synoid Gammacor, but that's a ways off. If I see one of you gents in chat I may bug you for a prime set, but I'm not going to stress about it.
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