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Schrodingers cat posted:Edit: I tried re-launching the Code Patch but I seem to recall it causing issues with the steam install. While rebuying the game for 10$ would be simple enough, is there a way for the code-patch to not lead to a no-cd issue? I disabled the overlay, moved the install directory to the default normal morrowind in PFiles, it seems to still not recognize my exe after I apply the patch. I mean, it's not needed as most of MGSO and mods work with the steam version but the code patch does bring some nifty correctives and QoL elements to the game. Do you have the latest version? I've never had the Code Patch fail and I have Morrowind on Steam. It's not installed in Program Files either. Make sure you are extracting the Code Patch to the Morrowind folder (containing morrowind.exe), NOT the Data Files folder.
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Buck Turgidson posted:Do you have the latest version? I've never had the Code Patch fail and I have Morrowind on Steam. It's not installed in Program Files either. Make sure you are extracting the Code Patch to the Morrowind folder (containing morrowind.exe), NOT the Data Files folder. That was it. MGSO 3 doesn't come with the last version it seems. Issue fixed! Thank you.
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How long do I have to wait after telling Falco that I'm siding with him for him to give me a dang quest?
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Sky Shadowing posted:I have laboriously typed up a dedicated TES thread OP. Anyone here have any last minute warnings before I post it? Or do we want to keep going with a separate thread? Post the thread 
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Do any of the mods in the chocolate pack increase silt strider prices? It now costs hundreds of gold to travel anywhere by silt strider and I'm not sure what's doing it. Mods:
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OSheaman posted:Do any of the mods in the chocolate pack increase silt strider prices? It now costs hundreds of gold to travel anywhere by silt strider and I'm not sure what's doing it. Probably balance - game settings if thats the BTB mod I think it is. Have you considered not using the silt strider and using magic you n'wah?
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axolotl farmer posted:Post the thread Since nobody has vehemently said NO, I will post the thread upon my return home feom work in roughly an hour and a half.
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Jan 26, 2015 22:34
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OSheaman posted:Do any of the mods in the chocolate pack increase silt strider prices? It now costs hundreds of gold to travel anywhere by silt strider and I'm not sure what's doing it. Its EcoAdjMisc.esp. You can open it with TESAME and delete the entry.
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Ugh, I uninstalled the Economy Adjuster and now I'm getting a CTD every time i load a save. Do I have to start a new game? I re-merged the levelled lists and ran mlox again . . . not sure what else to do. EDIT: I'm also confused, I thought Morrowind Comes Alive was the one with the random attacks in town...why am I getting them? OSheaman fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Jan 26, 2015 23:15
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OSheaman posted:Do I have to start a new game? Yes to everything you mentioned if you removed MCA start a new game. If you changed leveled lists, you should probably start a new game.
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OSheaman posted:Ugh, I uninstalled the Economy Adjuster and now I'm getting a CTD every time i load a save. Do I have to start a new game? I re-merged the levelled lists and ran mlox again . . . not sure what else to do. Sorry about the Economy Adjuster stuff. In hindsight, it's not a very good mod to have included. I'd really like to get around to updating the Chocolate Pack site and release a new, slimmer version, but I'm pretty busy these days.
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OSheaman posted:EDIT: I'm also confused, I thought Morrowind Comes Alive was the one with the random attacks in town...why am I getting them? The Tribunal expansion also has them. One of the mods you have (db_attack_mod) changes this a bit but your character might be powerful enough to get the assassin to spawn. If this is what's attacking you, there's a mod in the OP which delays the attacks further. Edit: I totally forgot that the main quest also has random attacks after a certain point. I don't think that's what's happening, though. Musical_Daredevil fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Thinking about getting either GCD or MADD levelling, but the mod page for GCD seems to be mostly talk about what code fixes were involved, rather than any information about what it does in game. Can anyone tell me the difference? I'm pretty much leaning towards MADD because it actually tells me what changes are made.
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Davoren posted:Thinking about getting either GCD or MADD levelling, but the mod page for GCD seems to be mostly talk about what code fixes were involved, rather than any information about what it does in game. Can anyone tell me the difference? I'm pretty much leaning towards MADD because it actually tells me what changes are made. http://www.mwmythicmods.com/Gluby/Gluby_CharacterDevelopment_Mods.htm#AltLevelingSystems
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Try Merri's - http://mw.modhistory.com/download-37-15001 Basically GCD ("smooth" leveling - no level up screens) but not as "gamey", if that is even a thing in morrowind.
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Gyshall posted:Try Merri's - http://mw.modhistory.com/download-37-15001 Jesus Christ that modder is obnxious. quote:"HOWEVER, this mod is designed with ROLEPLAYERS in mind; Galsiah's mod was designed with POWERPLAYERS in mind" I mean, seriously? People still trot this stupid crap out?
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Jabarto posted:Jesus Christ that modder is obnxious. the way you are playing is WRONG the way I am playing is RIGHT
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You don't really need a leveling mod but if you want the most barebones one out there, get MADD Leveler. It's very straight-forward and feels pretty faithful to the base game.
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Unfortunately, leveling mods seem to be in conflict with some of MCP's fixes. High attribute bonuses are made by doing negative curses, I don't exactly know the details. Also haha, that mod. quote:D) No more magical Personality bonuses.
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Atrayonis posted:Unfortunately, leveling mods seem to be in conflict with some of MCP's fixes. High attribute bonuses are made by doing negative curses, I don't exactly know the details. That's only really an issue if you increase the level cap. With Madd Leveler you can simply ignore uncapper.esp and play with the default limit of 100. I'm not sure if uncapping via the MCP option creates a problem because I don't know exactly how the Madd Leveler script works. The MCP can change the morrowind exe directly to allow you to level base skills and attributes above 100, so if the Madd script that adds the fortification effect once you go over 100 is only part of the uncapper.esp, then you should be able to use the Madd Leveler - base.esp with the MCP uncap options to go above the level cap.
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Also, the reason GCD gives mages get a disproportionate boost is because mages are disproportionately weak. And you still get more hit points for having a lot of combat skills. Really I don't know where people get this idea that GCD punishes melee characters, it's multiclass mages that really get the shaft.
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Jabarto posted:Also, the reason GCD gives mages get a disproportionate boost is because mages are disproportionately weak. And you still get more hit points for having a lot of combat skills. Really I don't know where people get this idea that GCD punishes melee characters, it's multiclass mages that really get the shaft. aka the most fun way to play
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Does Graphical Herbalism (whatever the Chocolate Pack version is) screw up the Roland's Tears quest by replacing all the special plants with regular Gold Kanet? Because I can't find any of the ones I need. e: Of course right after I post I find them.
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Jabarto posted:...it's multiclass mages that really get the shaft. I found that out the hard way when I tried using it the first time. Or I screwed something up, because my character's max magicka went down somehow.
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Gyshall posted:aka the most fun way to play Musical_Daredevil posted:I found that out the hard way when I tried using it the first time. Or I screwed something up, because my character's max magicka went down somehow. Yeah, I'm not about to defend everything Galsiah did. I get wanting to keep characters from being omnipotent, but it really hurts classes with only 2 or 3 magic skills like the Crusader because your magicka never really gets high enough to make it work.
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Jabarto posted:Yeah, I'm not about to defend everything Galsiah did. I get wanting to keep characters from being omnipotent, but it really hurts classes with only 2 or 3 magic skills like the Crusader because your magicka never really gets high enough to make it work. That sounds really dumb and shortsighted, since hybrid classes is kinda big thing in the elder scrolls games. I just used that L-something Leveling Mod for my previous Morrowind run. Gives you full the full +5 bonus (optionally lower) at level up if you increase a skill just a single point. It keeps the basic system in place, which is nice since I prefer light mod setups these days, but removes the need to game it. Might be considered OP but if you worried about combat balance you shouldn't play Morrowind in the first place.
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Krowley posted:That sounds really dumb and shortsighted, since hybrid classes is kinda big thing in the elder scrolls games. Linora's mod is what you're talking about and its pretty awesome and lightweight. +5 is the default but +3/+4 are probably better for people who have played the game a bit.
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Krowley posted:That sounds really dumb and shortsighted, since hybrid classes is kinda big thing in the elder scrolls games. It's not like all hybrids are bad. A character with 5 magic skills and 5 combat ones will do fine. Like I said, it's the ones with a 8-2 or 3-3-4 split that do poorly. Linora's is a decent choice, but the default levelling system is so horrible that a minimalist approach like that just isn't enough for me. EDIT: GCD is also very customizable and well-documented so you can change most of these things pretty easily if you wanted.
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Hey, I know this thread was complaining about the LGNPC mod and feature bloat and whatnot. Recently, there was a new version released that only had dialog - no quests, items, or other nonsense: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1514482-relz-lgnpc-dialogue-only-edition/ Going to give it a shot. It also comes in a single merged ESP which is sweet.
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Gyshall posted:Hey, I know this thread was complaining about the LGNPC mod and feature bloat and whatnot. The dialogue is the problem with lgnpc. 90% of it is weirdo modders sexual fantasies in npc form.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:The dialogue is the problem with lgnpc. 90% of it is weirdo modders sexual fantasies in npc form. I brought this to Cyran0's attention a year or two ago via PM on the TES forums, and he agreed that that poo poo had to go. They've been revising LGNPC ever since, so any version post 2013 might be cleaned up. I haven't had time to try any of the updates though, so I can't say for sure. Stuporstar fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:The dialogue is the problem with lgnpc. 90% of it is weirdo modders sexual fantasies in npc form. Stuporstar posted:I brought this to Cyran0's attention a year or two ago via PM on the TES forums, and he agreed that that poo poo had to go. They've been revising LGNPC ever since, so any version post 2013 might be cleaned up. I haven't had time to try any of the updates though, so I can't say for sure. Yeah I'll need specific examples of the weirdo sexual fantasy stuff, just looking through the mod in the editor I don't see anything that stands out (although I'm not digging into it too deep at the moment)
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As much as I respect LGNPC for what it's trying to do, I ultimately decided for myself that I don't care if every NPC has a huge backstory. They are cookie cutters anyways, at least I don't have to feel obligated to talk to them.
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Gyshall posted:Yeah I'll need specific examples of the weirdo sexual fantasy stuff, just looking through the mod in the editor I don't see anything that stands out (although I'm not digging into it too deep at the moment) I only remember the stuff from LGNPC Tel Uvirith, like the quest where you have to rescue Eddie's kidnapped (and probably raped) girlfriend (and the way he talks about her is like Ostar couldn't even imagine a woman playing a video game, so he assumes you're totally in on the eyerolling dialogue about "females, am I right?"), and also the cat-fight between the Tel Uvirith retainers, and the one who'll "get physical" with you (and that is a direct quote, not scare quotes). The sex stuff wouldn't even have been that gross if it wasn't caked in a layer of misogyny (and I don't use that word lightly, the dude's dialogue screamed "I hate women!").
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Gyshall posted:Yeah I'll need specific examples of the weirdo sexual fantasy stuff, just looking through the mod in the editor I don't see anything that stands out (although I'm not digging into it too deep at the moment) There's a breton slave in Molag Mar with her master. If you talk to the master he talks about how her main purpose is to be raped, and how this is totally acceptable since she's a slave. Maybe they cut that out. I don't know. There's also a merchant in Ald'ruhn who has his wife/apprentice locked in her room for misbehaving. Yeah, NPC is there in game, but she could just not like visitors, or not want to be interrupted. But in LGNPC she was locked in there and drinking booze because she had nothing else to do.
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Moryrie posted:There's a breton slave in Molag Mar with her master. If you talk to the master he talks about how her main purpose is to be raped, and how this is totally acceptable since she's a slave. Maybe they cut that out. I don't know. There's also a merchant in Ald'ruhn who has his wife/apprentice locked in her room for misbehaving. Yeah, NPC is there in game, but she could just not like visitors, or not want to be interrupted. But in LGNPC she was locked in there and drinking booze because she had nothing else to do. That honestly sounds pretty in-line with most TES lore to me.
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I've had most of the circa 2013+ LGNPC plugins installed for a long time now and haven't really noticed a lot of weird sexual stuff. I don't typically go around and try to strike up a conversation with everybody, though, either.
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Sky Shadowing posted:As much as I respect LGNPC for what it's trying to do, I ultimately decided for myself that I don't care if every NPC has a huge backstory. They are cookie cutters anyways, at least I don't have to feel obligated to talk to them. This is pretty much my feeling as well. A little bit of variety is nice, but Jesus I'm not going to spend 10 minutes reading all the stupid fanfic some nerd wrote for Random Clutter Vendor #26.
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