What the hell is the Emperor seeing that gives him such a powerful boner? Oh, this is a good new page first post.
|
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 14:43 |
|
|
# ? Jun 12, 2024 15:01 |
|
lol
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 14:47 |
|
Drythe posted:What the hell is the Emperor seeing that gives him such a powerful boner? Scrunts. Always scrunts.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 14:55 |
|
Icon Of Sin posted:Scrunts. Always scrunts.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 15:12 |
|
Here is the 30k Zone Mortalis force I'm considering. It's Legion-agnostic; I'll make a decision once we know more about HHV: Praetor, Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Volkite Charger -142 Cataphractii Terminators (5) (mostly with axes/combi-bolters) Reaper Autocannon -190 Contemptor Dreadnought, 2x CCW/HF -195 Breacher Squad (11), 2x Graviton Guns, Lightning Claw -280 Tactical Squad (13) (all with BP/CCW), Power Sword -190 Can I get some feedback, especially on weapon loadouts? Bulbasaur, this is pretty close to what we discussed last night, but I bumped it up to 1k because I was struggling to fit everything I really wanted into 750. I think it'll break down to 500 and 750 okay. Sulecrist fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jan 27, 2015 |
# ? Jan 27, 2015 15:46 |
|
koreban posted:SRM those stormtroopers look boss as hell. If I can ever get the gut back up to start painting again you'll be the (perhaps un)fortunate standard by which I compare myself and the gauge of progress until which I feel like I "made it". You've been an inspiration to follow the past year that I've been in the hobby.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 17:21 |
|
I'm building a small GK force for Zone Mortalis, and my plan is to start off with a Librarian with the Soul Glaive and ten Terminators with a Daemonhammer. As we expand I'll add 15 more terminators and a full Purifier squad. Eventually rounding it out into a full army with Stormravens and Dreadknights. I don't know dick about Grey Knights aside from what I've read in the last 48 hours. Is that a reasonable starting point for a decent army? Or should I shift away from Terminators for Strike Squads? I'm really excited to try painting the GKs with the zenithal method (in NMM), has anyone had great success with Zenithal Painting (not necessarily just the priming method)?
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 18:59 |
|
Holy poo poo.quote:Canoptek Wraiths - 120 points (unit of 3) And it seems like they are now Beasts. God drat. On the other hand, now we know why barge lords got cheaper: they lost Sweep Attack e.: Ghost Ark specifically states it can only carry Warriors and IC. The dream of assault Lychguards disappears. Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jan 27, 2015 |
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:12 |
|
WRAITHS WRAITHS WRAITHS WRAITHS. Pretty much all the pretty units got better. Thanks GW
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:16 |
|
Man I'm not sure what to buy first, a couple boxes of Wraiths or a couple boxes of Lychguard. Oh just saw the Ghost Ark update. Wraiths it is. panascope fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jan 27, 2015 |
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:17 |
|
The loss of sweep attacks isn't a huge thing, it only happened very rarely. I'd rather have the price decrease. I thought for sure Wraiths were getting a 4++.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:18 |
|
Someone I know already runs 12 Wraiths and 2 Command Barges. Welp.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:27 |
|
So still no grenades for wraiths? T5 sounds good and beasts gives them fleet but what about assaulting into cover? I know they get some bonus initiative whips, but that would not help since they get reduced to zero after, right?
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:27 |
|
And we finally know what are the perks of the formations.quote:Okay, about the formations. Once again peeps, there is NO Force Org Chart. The way they want you to build this army, apparently, is to clump a bunch of these formations together. This time I am also posting the Formation special rules. Destroyer Cult, Judicator Battatlion and Annihilation Nexus seem super funky. Canoptek Harvest seems good until you see that you need to be within 12" of the spyder. Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jan 27, 2015 |
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:32 |
|
That's pretty weird. You can't just field, like, a Triarch Stalker? You have to use their formation?
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:41 |
|
panascope posted:That's pretty weird. You can't just field, like, a Triarch Stalker? You have to use their formation? Sure you can. That's just a formation that forces you to buy a bunch of things together but comes with free perks.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:42 |
|
So if I want to play the army, at all, I need to buy these mandatory units?
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:45 |
|
spacegoat posted:So if I want to play the army, at all, I need to buy these mandatory units? No, you can still make an army with the usual FOC and cherry pick whatever you want from the unit list like a regular codex.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:46 |
|
But your quote says there's no FOC?
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:49 |
|
Mango Polo posted:No, you can still make an army with the usual FOC and cherry pick whatever you want from the unit list like a regular codex. But the quote says: quote:Once again peeps, there is NO Force Org Chart. The way they want you to build this army, apparently, is to clump a bunch of these formations together. This time I am also posting the Formation special rules.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:50 |
|
spacegoat posted:But your quote says there's no FOC? Maybe he means there's no Necron-specific Detachment. Edit: unless there are no HQ/T/E/FA/HS listings at all any more, which would be really weird if you wanted to take Necrons as allies but not run Unbound.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:50 |
|
holy poo poo 40k is hilariously confusing now
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:52 |
|
spacegoat posted:But your quote says there's no FOC? Sorry, here's the exact wording apparently. quote:If you are using the Unbound method, simply use the datasheets later in this section that correspond to the Necron models in your collection. If you are using the Battle-forged method, you will instead need to organise the Necron models in your collection into Detachments. This is a fun process in its own right. The most common of these are the Combined Arms and Allied detachments. Note that you can also include any of the formations presented in this section as part of a battle-forged army.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:52 |
|
That'd make sense. It'd be pretty extreme if they just threw out battlefield roles altogether.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:52 |
|
Mango Polo posted:No, you can still make an army with the usual FOC and cherry pick whatever you want from the unit list like a regular codex. SO WHAT YOURE SAYING IS THAT MY ARMY IS NOW INVALIDATED AND I CANT PLAY ANYMORE GREAT I GUESS ILL JUST THROW MY TWO THOUSAND NECRONS IN THE TRASH THANKS GEE DUB THIS CIOMPANY IS DISCONNECTED WITH ITS PLAYER BASE AND DOESNT UNDERSTAND ITS OWN GAME BLAH BLAH BLAHHH
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:55 |
|
Reynold posted:SO WHAT YOURE SAYING IS THAT MY ARMY IS NOW INVALIDATED AND I CANT PLAY ANYMORE GREAT I GUESS ILL JUST THROW MY TWO THOUSAND NECRONS IN THE TRASH THANKS GEE DUB Don't blame GW. Blame yourself or god. e. For actual discussion. Everything so far points to C'tans being able to fire off two powers a turn, since they are straight-up ranged weapons with no little asterisks anywhere to say otherwise. That and 12" movement sort of makes them a step up from before. Or maybe not, because "Powers of the C'tan" is in essence a single gun. Go wild on leaked pictures. Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jan 27, 2015 |
# ? Jan 27, 2015 19:58 |
|
Mango Polo posted:Holy poo poo. Got drat. That's 40 points for a super fast terminator, basically. These things are going to be amazing for zone mortalis. Sulecrist posted:Here is the 30k Zone Mortalis force I'm considering. It's Legion-agnostic; I'll make a decision once we know more about HHV: As you're finding, making a Legion list at a low point level is difficult. Your list is a good start for ZM. I'd tweak it a little bit though. Consider these options: quote:Praetor List quote:Chaplain List The mechanics of both lists are basically. The former is better in melee, but a fair bit, but the latter is more resilient and has more bodies. Make sure to magnetize the arms on your contemptor and support squad!
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:02 |
|
All of those formations own so hard. Even the Obelisk one (gotta buy an $165 Obelisk now to go with Fix's Monolith, thanks duder).BULBASAUR posted:Got drat. That's 40 points for a super fast terminator, basically. These things are going to be amazing for zone mortalis. They won't be able to charge through walls, at least, as they still need LOS.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:02 |
|
BULBASAUR posted:Got drat. That's 40 points for a super fast terminator, basically. These things are going to be amazing for zone mortalis. That's... pretty terrifying. And amazingly close to their fluff.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:04 |
|
I can't wait for FW to rain in on the new detachment gravy train. Build your own detachment here we come!WhiteOutMouse posted:So still no grenades for wraiths? T5 sounds good and beasts gives them fleet but what about assaulting into cover? I know they get some bonus initiative whips, but that would not help since they get reduced to zero after, right? Can't have everything in a single unit
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:13 |
|
Ghost Ark guns are Salvo 5/10, which mean they always shoot 10 shots, even at long range. Warriors are minimum 10, so you can't stick a character with them in an Ark anymore. Praetorian Axes aren't Unwieldy (but only S5)
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:13 |
|
Mango Polo posted:Don't blame GW. Blame yourself or god. More seriously, MY GIRLFRIEND plays Dark Harvest, hopefully there will be a FAQ or something to bring them up to speed soon. Until then I guess I'll just have to come up with some house rulings to keep things fair for her. Ugh. I love the Forge World books and all of the options they provide for everything, but I wish they'd coordinate with the regular GW stuff a little better as far as the rulebooks being outdated and such.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:15 |
|
Forge World still hasn't issued FAQs for Orks or Eldar. Xenos don't get treated like Space Marines.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:18 |
|
There isn't even an FAQ for Guard, and they're one of the primary recipients of FW love. Someone really needs to light a fire under their rear end about it, since it's really getting to be ridiculous.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:31 |
|
Tomb Blades are sweet.quote:Tomb Blades (54 points, Fast Attack, unit of 3) Nebuloscope grants Ignore Cover, Particle Beamers are S6 AP5 blasts.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:33 |
|
MasterSlowPoke posted:Forge World still hasn't issued FAQs for Orks or Eldar. Xenos don't get treated like Space Marines. There's SM stuff from FW that hasn't been updated (hello IA8) so it's more a symptom of the FW people not wanting to do anything that isn't directly tied to Horus Heresy material.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:47 |
|
Slimnoid posted:There's SM stuff from FW that hasn't been updated (hello IA8) so it's more a symptom of the FW people not wanting to do anything that isn't directly tied to Horus Heresy material. That's not the driving factor. Driving factor is limited resources on multiple projects.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 20:54 |
|
Mango Polo posted:Holy poo poo. Damnit - now I cant double them out with Thunderhammers....
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 21:01 |
|
Living Metal's "Roll a D6, on a 6 re-gain a HP" rolls are only for vehicles with the Heavy or Super Heavy rules... which is fine because I would have forgotten it anyway. Wraiths are Beasts... and they have the "Beasts" rule.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 21:05 |
|
|
# ? Jun 12, 2024 15:01 |
|
That's something I wish they'd hire some staff for- "live ops" on released books. A team dedicated to regular updates on existing material would go a long way to increase the shelf life of their products.
|
# ? Jan 27, 2015 21:06 |