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JonathonSpectre posted:I'd be upset also that some kids cheating in an online music class cost me games and knowingly covering up child rape for years and years and years cost the other guy... um... well, a statue... for now... 
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JonathonSpectre posted:I'd be upset also that some kids cheating in an online music class cost me games and knowingly covering up child rape for years and years and years cost the other guy... um... well, a statue... for now... dadgum
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Jan 27, 2015 06:16
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Yeah I'd be pissed that I was the living coach who wasn't shamed into the grave and was able to see his successor win a National Championship.
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Jan 27, 2015 07:00
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Its the juco wins not the vacated wins that matter there
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Jan 27, 2015 07:08
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Pakled posted:E: ^^^^^ This is the best option. Not really a problem though since we only ever fill the 4th OOC with a cupcake. We had this past season: UGA, SC State, GA State, SCar. And that's pretty much our template moving forward. 2015 we have Wofford (small in-state requirement), App State, SCar, and Notre Dame (I guess they count as OOC still?). I really don't think you need more than 3 OOC games: 1 in-state FCS, 1 cross-conference rival (if you have one), and 1 random P5 team. And if you don't have a cross-conference rival, pick another random P5 team. Scarf fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Jan 27, 2015 15:36
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Sash! posted:I wish everyone had to play one OOC game against every other P5 conference every year, randomly selected during some sort of insanely overhyped ESPN show. I don't watch anything other than games on ESPN, but I would watch the poo poo out of this show.
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Jan 27, 2015 15:51
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Spacemonkey57 posted:I don't watch anything other than games on ESPN, but I would watch the poo poo out of this show. 5 machines, each with pingpong balls representing one of their schools. Drop 2 balls, it'd be like the lottery!
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Jan 27, 2015 15:58
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When you steamroll over your OOC slate of Colorado, Wake Forest, Purdue, and Iowa State, you can say "it's not OUR fault we had a weak schedule.
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Jan 27, 2015 16:42
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Holy poo poo Sash has a great idea
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Jan 27, 2015 16:55
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Dattserberg posted:Holy poo poo Sash has a great idea Didn't the SEC say they were going to require all teams to schedule a P5 opponent sometime last year and Kansas reported like a day later that they'd received calls from half the conference? Thoguh fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Jan 27, 2015 17:01
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Thoguh posted:Didn't the SEC say they were going to require all teams to schedule a P5 opponent sometime last year and Kansas reported like a day later that they'd received calls from like half the conference? Probably from the West. They're the worst offenders in the SEC for ooc strength.
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Jan 27, 2015 17:09
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only one certain SEC team should be allowed to beat the poo poo out of Kansas every year
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Jan 27, 2015 17:14
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Scarf posted:Probably from the West. They're the worst offenders in the SEC for ooc strength. We always play a p5 opponent so I would say it was probably those Mississippi schools.
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Jan 27, 2015 17:36
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Sash! posted:Its the juco wins not the vacated wins that matter there And if you start counting wins at every level then neither he nor Patnero has the record anyway. Gagliardi is almost 100 up on Paterno.
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Jan 27, 2015 17:52
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Fluffdaddy posted:We always play a p5 opponent so I would say it was probably those Mississippi schools. Yeah Bama schedules their cupcakes like anyone else but they're definitely not backing down from any P5 teams either. I think playing WVU and Michigan in consecutive years proves that.
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Jan 27, 2015 17:59
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scheduling against non-Ohio State Big Ten teams really feels like exploiting the system.
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MourningView posted:scheduling against non-Ohio State Big Ten teams really feels like exploiting the system. We haven't played a Pac team OOC since UCLA during the dark times of mike dubose
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Jan 27, 2015 18:08
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Penn State should never have agreed to delay the Alabama games and pounced when they were weak
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Jan 27, 2015 18:12
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Sash! posted:Penn State should never have agreed to delay the Alabama games and pounced when they were weak
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Groucho Marxist posted:only one certain SEC team should be allowed to beat the poo poo out of Kansas every year Agreed 
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eat grass todd reesing you stupid turd
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Jan 27, 2015 18:22
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Groucho Marxist posted:only one certain SEC team should be allowed to beat the poo poo out of Kansas every year Only if Kansas gets to beat the poo poo out of them in basketball.
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Jan 27, 2015 18:53
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that's fine i don't watch the lame dunkless version of basketball
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Groucho Marxist posted:that's fine i don't watch the lame dunkless version of basketball 
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Jan 27, 2015 19:23
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Scarf posted:Probably from the West. They're the worst offenders in the SEC for ooc strength. Bama and LSU have been pretty good with scheduling OOC games under Saban and Miles. LSU has beaten Washington, Oregon, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and TCU just off the top of my head.
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Jan 27, 2015 21:11
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Lasagna Pilot posted:Bama and LSU have been pretty good with scheduling OOC games under Saban and Miles. LSU has beaten Washington, Oregon, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and TCU just off the top of my head. When they beat TCU, the game was played less than 20 miles away from TCU's campus.
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Jan 27, 2015 21:15
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Man I hope this offseason excitement for UNLV translates to on the field production
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There were rumors like a year ago that LSU-PSU was going to be a thing, but I don't know if that ever actually happened.
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Lasagna Pilot posted:Bama and LSU have been pretty good with scheduling OOC games under Saban and Miles. LSU has beaten Washington, Oregon, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and TCU just off the top of my head. The last few years Bama scheduled one P5 team and three Charleston Southern-caliber cupcakes each year. Pretty sure they could step their poo poo up a tad.
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Also, again, the issue most teams that play 9 conference games have with the SEC/ACC/whoever's 8 games isn't just their soft SOS (because as has been pointed out SEC teams do, in fact, often play tough OOC schedules). It's specifically the fact that they get to schedule a cupcake in like week 12 instead of having to play a conference game. That's absolutely huge for a number of reasons, chief among them being that they help avoid upsets late in the season and give the whole conference a bit of a boost by giving a bunch of the teams free wins rather than having half of the conference take another loss since they all had to play each other.
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Alabama 2014: 1 Big 12, two Conference USA, one FCS 2013: 1 ACC, 1 Sunbelt, 1 Mountain West, one FCS 2012: 1 Big 10, 2 Conference USA, one FCS 2011: 1 Big 10, 1 MAC, 1 Sun Belt, one FCS It's definitely not as bad as Florida or the Mississippi's. And I like that they go through multiple conferences instead of just playing one ACC team every year. Also Saban is firmly in the more Power 5 games camp, which isn't something you're hearing from some of our neighboring states. We definitely schedule FCS teams late because of the loving Iron Bowl though.
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If UAB's football program ever comes back I want there to be a state law Auburn and Alabama have to play them alternating years, that would rule.
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VDay posted:Also, again, the issue most teams that play 9 conference games have with the SEC/ACC/whoever's 8 games isn't just their soft SOS (because as has been pointed out SEC teams do, in fact, often play tough OOC schedules). It's specifically the fact that they get to schedule a cupcake in like week 12 instead of having to play a conference game. That's absolutely huge for a number of reasons, chief among them being that they help avoid upsets late in the season and give the whole conference a bit of a boost by giving a bunch of the teams free wins rather than having half of the conference take another loss since they all had to play each other. I think that is a relevant thing but that it mostly hasn't mattered because the bottom of the SEC had something like a 2-48 record against the good teams before last season (whatever that Bob Stoops stat was), so that extra game would have overwhelmingly just meant an extra loss for some team that wasn't relevant to the BCS, but it does effect things on the margins when some team like Utah ends up with 5 losses but they are actually probably just as good as 2-loss Duke, but then Utah had to play like 7 ranked ranked teams and 9 conference games and Duke played nobody, and so Utah ends up not counting as a quality win only they are good enough that they handed a loss to some other relevant team like UCLA or Arizona, so now UCLA and Arizona are ranked lower and maybe now the 11-1 Pac12 champ after they beat UCLA or Arizona for the second time is in trouble if they are in a #4 vs. #5 battle for the playoff spot because now all the Pac-12 conference teams on their resume have taken a bunch of losses and are undervalued in the rankings.
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VDay posted:Also, again, the issue most teams that play 9 conference games have with the SEC/ACC/whoever's 8 games isn't just their soft SOS (because as has been pointed out SEC teams do, in fact, often play tough OOC schedules). It's specifically the fact that they get to schedule a cupcake in like week 12 instead of having to play a conference game. That's absolutely huge for a number of reasons, chief among them being that they help avoid upsets late in the season and give the whole conference a bit of a boost by giving a bunch of the teams free wins rather than having half of the conference take another loss since they all had to play each other.
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Brandon Vandenburg and Corey Batey were convicted today on all charges they faced in the Vanderbilt rape case. Two more players, including one who testified against them, still await trial.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:While this is a problem, I also think the bigger issue is that a Pac-12 team plays 9 P5 games in conference, but most Pac-12 teams have a P5 OOC game. That's 10 games against P5 competition. SEC teams play 8 conference games, and usually 1 P5 team OOC. So immediately they generally play fewer P5 schools than Pac-12 teams. So even though they may schedule decent OOC competition, this at best gets them to 9 games against P5 competition. It still depends on the schedule and the teams in question though. For example FSU + 2 cupcakes next year is probably a lower expected winning percentage for UF than playing Northwestern, Kansas, and 1 cupcake would be.
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I think Washington is trying to do the P5, G5, FCS scheduling now in a way (they term it A-B-C scheduling so take that as you will), except last season Illinois was the P5 team So yeah, it still depends on the teams in question
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Lasagna Pilot posted:It still depends on the schedule and the teams in question though. For example FSU + 2 cupcakes next year is probably a lower expected winning percentage for UF than playing Northwestern, Kansas, and 1 cupcake would be.
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I really don't like the FCS games for the simple reason that the overwhelming majority of them have zero chance of ever winning.
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I'm ok with other teams scheduling them. That way I can enjoy the occasional upset while still acting smug about how UCLA has never played an FCS team as if that's some kind of actual accomplishment.
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