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Yeah there is no way that is not the comic as intended. It is bad and terrible obviously.
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Most republicans self-censor and still consider themselves to be edgy and non-PC(see Sarah Palin's recent "FUC_ (Michael) MOORE" sign at the last right wing conference), so it seems pretty legit to me.
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Lemming posted:You're looking at the original version of it
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Rorus Raz posted:I was the first one to say that the cartoon was probably drawn that way from the start, but I want to hear Allie's response (if he bothers) His response will be "don't be willfully dense"
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Political Whores posted:The big problem I had with that when I tried to sit through it is that the "human cost of war" theme feels pretty loving hollow when the war in question is one of an unprovoked invasion that has killed hundreds of thousands and totally devastated a country for probably multiple generations to come, led by the people the soldier is fighting for. Tons of war movies exist about the human cost it has on soldiers, and I've always had a a bit of a problem with them too, but something as fresh and as unilateral as the Iraq war being depicted as this horrible but necessary struggle sickens me. Honestly a guy who said himself he viewed the whole conflict through the lens of a crusade didn't have much humanity to lose anyway. That's totally fair and valid. However I think there's plenty of room for a movie which establishes that stupid sheep/sheepdog/wolves protection by violence meme by having Ahab beat up a kid who's beating up his little brother showing his brother signing up for the war because he idolizes Ahab and getting turned into a total emotional wreck by it to be read as providing evidence that no, it's not protecting Americans, it's just getting the people he's got this savior complex for ground up and they wouldn't need saving if it weren't for the war he's obsessed with in the first place, and he doesn't have to turn himself into something totally incapable of being human when he can actually help just fine by working to heal people rather than kill them. I don't think it's at all contradictory to the movie to view it as tearing down the exceptionalist idea that the US is axiomatically the good guys and "protecting" it with foreign wars is good and right because that doesn't work that way and it just erodes any moral high ground and hurts those its intended to protect. But hey, I've already said I'm probably AGMing it.
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At least when south park did it, they deliberately made as bland a depiction of Muhammad as possible and inserted the obnoxious censor bar after the network still said no
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Jan 28, 2015 00:13
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majormonotone posted:His response will be "don't be willfully dense" He's dumb as a loving brick
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Saint Sputnik posted:Ironic since Allie is obviously the one who censored it. Was hoping someone would have dug the cartoon up and saved me the trouble; the only copies I can find are tiny or blown up. 
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Jan 28, 2015 00:26
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"Wait, I lost the ability to stand defending this kid's rights and you're trying to guilt him when he exercises them? gently caress you, lady."
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SirSamVimes posted:"Wait, I lost the ability to stand defending this kid's rights and you're trying to guilt him when he exercises them? gently caress you, lady." Dude's actually just really disaffected because he didn't get proper psych care to adjust to life without legs.
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Saint Sputnik posted:Was hoping someone would have dug the cartoon up and saved me the trouble; the only copies I can find are tiny or blown up. "Marine, here is your mission: you must protect the right of American schoolkids not to stand for the pledge of allegiance by going in some third-world shithole to get your legs blown off. Otherwise, I dunno, the third-worlder will come here and force our kids to stand for the pledge, probably. Anyway, good luck."
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 Guardian:  100 days until the general election. Telegraph:  Independent:  Having previously asked for the Greens to be added to the proposed debates, Cameron now seeks to add the Northern Ireland-based Democratic Unionist Party.
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cheetah7071 posted:What? Obama is so off-target he's a jobkiller. The caption is really dumb but the image is more coherent than normal.
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cheetah7071 posted:What? Standard GOP reality-denying schlock, in this case "Obama's SOCIALIST WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION is killing jobs!!!"
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Jan 28, 2015 01:42
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It was the caption I was responding to mostly.
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cheetah7071 posted:What? While Obama sets his aim to reduce the wealth gap, republicans responds with killing off jobs.
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carry on then posted:Hey, could someone point me to where to find the cartoon where some lady is telling a kid lying on the ground "you're gonna have to get the hell out of my country" and holding a bible? I can't find anything using terms like that on Google. Two pages late, but here you go: 
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Obama is so off-target he's a jobkiller. Seriously. The image makes sense on its own, and the caption makes sense with a different image (if you accept the GOP line that Robin Hood is a bad guy), but the image combined with the caption makes no sense. Unrelated, looks like the GOP is getting an early start on eating their own this cycle (has McCain said anything that would suggest he would ever run again). 
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Cpt.Americant posted:You'd think after doing this for years he'd maybe learn that the delay effectively means he shouldn't go super topical. No matter how much of a His target audience is a half century behind everyone else. He's doing pretty well, compared.
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sick burn he's doing it will always show up two weeks late when it's no longer relevant. This is how he makes his living, does he not realize what this stuff looks like constantly being two weeks late?
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Saint Sputnik posted:Was hoping someone would have dug the cartoon up and saved me the trouble; the only copies I can find are tiny or blown up. Wow, I actually saved this one. "breen_fuckyourrights.gif" 
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Cat Mattress posted:"Marine, here is your mission: you must protect the right of American schoolkids not to stand for the pledge of allegiance by going in some third-world shithole to get your legs blown off. Otherwise, I dunno, the third-worlder will come here and force our kids to stand for the pledge, probably. Anyway, good luck." Those foreigners sound like real American patriots to me 
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Not My Leg posted:Seriously. The image makes sense on its own, and the caption makes sense with a different image (if you accept the GOP line that Robin Hood is a bad guy), but the image combined with the caption makes no sense. Nah, McCain has done the standard major-party "welp, I had my candidacy and failed, not trying it again." Romney is actually pretty unusual by saying he'd do it again. I'd be surprised if he manages any decent amount of votes this time since he got himself in as a failure back in 2012. (And then the right "Anyone But Mitt"s itself right back into running him again  )
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Grapplejack posted:He's dumb as a loving brick This is very true.
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At least this time the "Anyone But Mitt" movement does actually have an "Anyone" to rally behind.
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Death Ray posted:I wince every time I hear the propaganda that if a soldier falls in battle, even if it is for a necessary goal, that they were by definition "defending our rights", as if all the wars that we fight are existential wars and none relate to material goals (I'm not laying this on you, Spootnix). A more accurate, if ambiguous phrasing would be "the soldier died protecting our way of life."
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For non-British people: quote:Catmando (1995–2002; also spelt "Cat Mandu"[1]) was a cat who served as joint leader of Britain's Official Monster Raving Loony Party (OMRLP) from 1999 to 2002, along with his owner, Howling Laud Hope.[2] He is one of the few cats ever to have led a political party.
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 That Breen comic pisses me off. I think I'll use this the next time some "Patriot" throws it at me for not being "Patriotic". In reality I imagine teachers think the pledge of allegiance is stupid too, as I only got poo poo for not doing it from one of them during my time in school.
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Steve Jobs has been dead for years, you hack.
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Didn't someone get an e-mail back from Bish about one of his stupid cartoons a while ago? Something about how if your job doesn't involve getting shot at then you shouldn't criticize the police/soldiers or something.
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There is clearly no way that arrow could have come from Obama's bow. Obviously the JOBS man was killed by the Sheriff of Nottingham, who is just off-panel to the left and looks a lot like George W Bush. A Second Shooter  Cartoon.
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Hey, I think we're all being a little harsh on this cartoon. Notice how Obama's surrounded by a halo in the dense scribbles? For the first time, that's part of the composition! There's a reason for there to be less background in that part of the scene. Can't say the same for Little "Jobs" John, but hey, progress is progress. 
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A Ron Kovic cartoon.
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Ben Has Tiny Weenus posted:Two pages late, but here you go:
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Nah I'd imagine the "We are the oppressed Christian majority" narrative prevents any level of introspection.
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when will that lazy obama go after the 9/11 perpetrators?? uggh!!
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colonel_korn posted:Didn't someone get an e-mail back from Bish about one of his stupid cartoons a while ago? Something about how if your job doesn't involve getting shot at then you shouldn't criticize the police/soldiers or something.  
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Dr. Killjoy posted:Nah I'd imagine the "We are the oppressed Christian majority" narrative prevents any level of introspection. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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