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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Tracula posted:

That's enough internet for me today. Goodnight, SA.

as it turns out, apparently a shockingly large proportion of elite british society during that time, from politicians to entertainers, were child molesters.

Maybe they still are.

And they'll all get away with it, too. That's the true dark enlightenment.

Sleep well children.

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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Darth Walrus posted:

The Elm Guest House crowd had literal child rape dungeons in white-tie clubs. Occasionally, the rape dungeons had fancy-dress nights. They could get pretty theatrical in their evil. I mean, poo poo, a recently-deceased cabinet minister is accused, on alarmingly plausible grounds, of sitting on a loving throne in a full-length ballgown, out of his mind on cocaine, as a pair of underlings raped a little boy in front of him and beat him to death.

We Brits do our abhorrent poo poo old-school.

When and how did this come out?

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

Pope Guilty posted:

When and how did this come out?

Yeah gonna second needing the details, not because I doubt it but it's always useful to have more proof the Elites of society are human filth

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Jack Gladney posted:

Actually, a lot of the DE people in this thread are basically just a super-suit or industrial accident away from being a supervillain if you think about it. Probably not a coincidence that most of them love comics.

But a dominatrix is probably the closest thing to a real-life supervillain that actually exists.

Dominatrixes are kinda low tier if you want to talk villains... I mean, that stuff is all consensual; they get paid good money for it. If you want real life super villains, you want...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZbG9i1oGPA
The Killdozer


The Zodiac Killer

Or even the somehow less disturbing radioactive child pornographer...

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Oh man, it's been a hot minute since I saw mention of the Patron Saint of Old GBS.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

Yeah gonna second needing the details, not because I doubt it but it's always useful to have more proof the Elites of society are human filth

Don't know about those specific details, but check this out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elm_Guest_House_child_abuse_scandal

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Pope Guilty posted:

When and how did this come out?

Here's some sources.

Chocolate Teapot
May 8, 2009

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

Yeah gonna second needing the details, not because I doubt it but it's always useful to have more proof the Elites of society are human filth

As an aside from the sources above, but almost all evidence is conveniently locked away behind official secret dossiers and threats of libel from the wealthiest, not to mention the global legal protection of the monarchy (and those associated). The aforementioned Jimmy Savile was good friends with all sorts of establishment figures (including former PM Maggie Thatcher), despite being one of the most horrific paedophiles who ever existed.

EDIT: The most recent example of this sort of thing ([Buckingham] Palace [...] deny Prince Andrew underage sex claims)

Chocolate Teapot has a new favorite as of 12:18 on Jan 27, 2015

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Chocolate Teapot posted:

As an aside from the sources above, but almost all evidence is conveniently locked away behind official secret dossiers and threats of libel from the wealthiest, not to mention the global legal protection of the monarchy (and those associated). The aforementioned Jimmy Savile was good friends with all sorts of establishment figures (including former PM Maggie Thatcher), despite being one of the most horrific paedophiles who ever existed.

I noticed the wiki entry seemed like it had been cleaned a bit too :crossarms:

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.
JFC it's like the cult from True Detective come to life

We nuked the wrong Island in WWII apparently

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

JFC it's like the cult from True Detective come to life

And please remember that no one from that cult got arrested. ~*Art imitates life*~

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell
It Makes the Dutroux affair conspiracies alarmingly plausible. Dutroux was a belgian pedophile and child pornographer who claimed, throughout his trials and after, to have been involved in trafficking children for a Europe wide ring of elites. Hogwash! Only then it turns out there really was an elite ring of pedophiles in high places in England. And more and more keeps coming out. So the idea is now chillingly plausible.

Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!
Is it something about power that breeds pedophiles? Are pedophiles inherently more attracted to positions of power? Or is the percentage of pedophiles simply much higher in the population than I thought?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Loomer posted:

It Makes the Dutroux affair conspiracies alarmingly plausible. Dutroux was a belgian pedophile and child pornographer who claimed, throughout his trials and after, to have been involved in trafficking children for a Europe wide ring of elites. Hogwash! Only then it turns out there really was an elite ring of pedophiles in high places in England. And more and more keeps coming out. So the idea is now chillingly plausible.

Is he still alive? Can he be bargained with to take other people down for increased amenities or something?

Namarrgon posted:

Is it something about power that breeds pedophiles? Are pedophiles inherently more attracted to positions of power? Or is the percentage of pedophiles simply much higher in the population than I thought?

Apparently people are capable of monstrous things when they aren't used to hearing the word "no".

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Namarrgon posted:

Is it something about power that breeds pedophiles? Are pedophiles inherently more attracted to positions of power? Or is the percentage of pedophiles simply much higher in the population than I thought?

A little bit of two, a little bit of three, I guess. I wouldn't be surprised if power dynamics turn pedophiles on hardcore (as long as they are in a position of power), and how better to maximize that than raping someone who is as close to powerless as possible, i.e. a child? Couple that with the amount of resources someone in a position of power can marshall and you get a very ugly combination. I don't think that there is anyone who comes to power as a perfectly healthy human being and then turns into a pedophile all of a sudden.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Maybe it's like those people who pay tons of money to eat panda steaks and stuff: it's a rare thing not many people can do freely.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Jack Gladney posted:

Maybe it's like those people who pay tons of money to eat panda steaks and stuff: it's a rare thing not many people can do freely.

Yeah but then they'd be eating the kids and not loving them.

Oh god maybe they're also eating the kids oh god oh god

MC Nietzche
Oct 26, 2004

by exmarx

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Yeah but then they'd be eating the kids and not loving them.

Oh god maybe they're also eating the kids oh god oh god

Help now I'm cry.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
To get things back on track from horrifying awfulness, this twitter account was pretty funny until it ran out of steam. https://twitter.com/nrxdecoder

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

The Vosgian Beast posted:

To get things back on track from horrifying awfulness, this twitter account was pretty funny until it ran out of steam. https://twitter.com/nrxdecoder

I love how he is complaining that no one can take him seriously.
Also what is it with them loving Tolkien? The guy might have been a person who looked kindly on the middle ages but he was no friend to the capitalism they jerk off to.

Crowsbeak has a new favorite as of 05:46 on Jan 28, 2015

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Crowsbeak posted:

Also what is it with them loving Tolkien? The guy might have been a person who looked kindly on the middle ages but he was no friend to the capitalism they jerk off to.
Tolkien wrote during the last days of the British Empire and embodied a lot of that Old World character that they wish they could hope to emulate.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Crowsbeak posted:

I love how he is complaining that no one can take him seriously.
Also what is it with them loving Tolkien? The guy might have been a person who looked kindly on the middle ages but he was no friend to the capitalism they jerk off to.

Do they jerk off to capitalism? Like, neoliberal capitalism? I figure they'd be into fascist-style corporatism or something. I thought the idea was that they were pathetic weirdos who weren't into bourgeois liberalism, since that would just make them libertarians.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
The ones I follow aren't exactly hyper-capitalist libertarian types to be fair. It's hard to square libertarianism with a desire to bring back hereditary monarchy. I actually enjoy watching them take potshots at an-caps/libertarians on twitter, when they aren't busy talking about how the coming race war will tear apart western civilization.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Jack of Hearts posted:

Do they jerk off to capitalism? Like, neoliberal capitalism? I figure they'd be into fascist-style corporatism or something. I thought the idea was that they were pathetic weirdos who weren't into bourgeois liberalism, since that would just make them libertarians.

Alot of them show sympathies for it. Albeit I think its much more about the idea of ubermechen lording over their "betters". All the ubermechen being white strong nerds. Note most are subscribers to ancaps like HHH and Rothbard so its probably mixed with liking open racists. Also there social Darwinism really tends to not mesh well with Catholicism. (Yes I am aware that some of them subscribe to Sedevacantist ideology)

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

uber_stoat posted:

The ones I follow aren't exactly hyper-capitalist libertarian types to be fair. It's hard to square libertarianism with a desire to bring back hereditary monarchy. I actually enjoy watching them take potshots at an-caps/libertarians on twitter, when they aren't busy talking about how the coming race war will tear apart western civilization.

The Hans Herman Hoppe folks take libertarianism to the next level by asserting that not only land and property should be owned but also government structures. Since everything being owned is the best system, obviously the government itself being owned (i.e. by a king) is the bestest system. And if that king were to, say, hate black people and homosexuals, it would be completely, indefensibly immoral for anybody to object.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Crowsbeak posted:

I love how he is complaining that no one can take him seriously.

It's a parody account mocking dumb statements by reactionaries.

Wales Grey
Jun 20, 2012

The Vosgian Beast posted:

It's a parody account mocking dumb statements by reactionaries.

How could anyone think a post like this:



Was anything but a joke?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Pope Guilty posted:

The Hans Herman Hoppe folks take libertarianism to the next level by asserting that not only land and property should be owned but also government structures. Since everything being owned is the best system, obviously the government itself being owned (i.e. by a king) is the bestest system. And if that king were to, say, hate black people and homosexuals, it would be completely, indefensibly immoral for anybody to object.

I think someone already said this but goddamn the whole thing is like someone tried to make the most ~edgy~ belief system possible.

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Crowsbeak posted:

Alot of them show sympathies for it. Albeit I think its much more about the idea of ubermechen lording over their "betters". All the ubermechen being white strong nerds. Note most are subscribers to ancaps like HHH and Rothbard so its probably mixed with liking open racists. Also there social Darwinism really tends to not mesh well with Catholicism. (Yes I am aware that some of them subscribe to Sedevacantist ideology)

I never even knew Sedevacantism was a thing. I'm getting a vibe like they are the Sovereign Citizens of the catholic church?

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Soylent Pudding posted:

I never even knew Sedevacantism was a thing. I'm getting a vibe like they are the Sovereign Citizens of the catholic church?

Nah, if anything they're more like birthers. Basically they sprang from the traditionalist wing of the Church that saw the reforms of the Second Vatican Council (1962-65) as heretical, but unlike those traditionalists led by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre who simply started doing their own thing regardless of what Rome was saying, they didn't manage to reconcile their reactionary views with the idea of the Church as flawless and unchanging. They explained that discrepancy away with claiming that all Popes beginning with either John XXIII or Paul VI were heretics and therefore couldn't have been rightful popes, following that all bishops and cardinals appointed by them couldn't have been legitimate as well. Some claim that in the 1958 conclave the Italian cardinal Giuseppe Siri had actually been elected, but his election had been suppressed by the John XXIII faction instead - those are called "sedeimpeditists", as they claim that the Holy See is not truly vacant, but that there's a secret hierarchy of clergy preparing for the day when they finally can elect another rightful successor to Siri (whom they call Gregory XVII). And lastly there are the conclavists, who did the logical step and elected themselves pope with the Palmarian Catholic Church (look them up on Youtube!) being the best known.

There are probably lots of unannounced sedevacantists within the SSPX (the traditionalist group started by the aformentioned Lefebvre), though.

Political Whores
Feb 13, 2012

System Metternich posted:

Nah, if anything they're more like birthers. Basically they sprang from the traditionalist wing of the Church that saw the reforms of the Second Vatican Council (1962-65) as heretical, but unlike those traditionalists led by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre who simply started doing their own thing regardless of what Rome was saying, they didn't manage to reconcile their reactionary views with the idea of the Church as flawless and unchanging. They explained that discrepancy away with claiming that all Popes beginning with either John XXIII or Paul VI were heretics and therefore couldn't have been rightful popes, following that all bishops and cardinals appointed by them couldn't have been legitimate as well. Some claim that in the 1958 conclave the Italian cardinal Giuseppe Siri had actually been elected, but his election had been suppressed by the John XXIII faction instead - those are called "sedeimpeditists", as they claim that the Holy See is not truly vacant, but that there's a secret hierarchy of clergy preparing for the day when they finally can elect another rightful successor to Siri (whom they call Gregory XVII). And lastly there are the conclavists, who did the logical step and elected themselves pope with the Palmarian Catholic Church (look them up on Youtube!) being the best known.

There are probably lots of unannounced sedevacantists within the SSPX (the traditionalist group started by the aformentioned Lefebvre), though.

That sounds more like twelver Shi'ism actually.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Catholics are really good at making up lots of big long latin-y words for everything.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Pope Guilty posted:

The Hans Herman Hoppe folks take libertarianism to the next level by asserting that not only land and property should be owned but also government structures. Since everything being owned is the best system, obviously the government itself being owned (i.e. by a king) is the bestest system. And if that king were to, say, hate black people and homosexuals, it would be completely, indefensibly immoral for anybody to object.

Feudalism and absolutism were built on a sounder base than this.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Feudalism and absolutism were built on a sounder base than this.

Democracy, you see, is an enemy of liberty, because it makes the owners of property accountable to people other than themselves. The only true liberty is the abolition of everything which might restrict a property owner from doing whatever he wishes with his property. Anything else is an infringement on liberty.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

uber_stoat posted:

The ones I follow aren't exactly hyper-capitalist libertarian types to be fair. It's hard to square libertarianism with a desire to bring back hereditary monarchy. I actually enjoy watching them take potshots at an-caps/libertarians on twitter, when they aren't busy talking about how the coming race war will tear apart western civilization.

It's really funny how the people who can't shut up the most about how western civ rules and we've got to protect it from its ongoing genocide also basically worship al-queda's kill em all attitude and openly want to genocide them just as bad as ISIS does to unbelievers. If DE posters think THE TERRORISTS have their heads screwed on so straight to reality and all the western limp-wrists don't, doesn't that indicate western civ isn't superior actually, since its marketplace of ideas produced all these little babbys and their progressive enablers who can't handle a real man's man's war? You know the kind of war where you kill/gently caress/nuke everything that moves. Old school.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

DeusExMachinima posted:

It's really funny how the people who can't shut up the most about how western civ rules and we've got to protect it from its ongoing genocide also basically worship al-queda's kill em all attitude and openly want to genocide them just as bad as ISIS does to unbelievers. If DE posters think THE TERRORISTS have their heads screwed on so straight to reality and all the western limp-wrists don't, doesn't that indicate western civ isn't superior actually, since its marketplace of ideas produced all these little babbys and their progressive enablers who can't handle a real man's man's war? You know the kind of war where you kill/gently caress/nuke everything that moves. Old school.

Radical Islam and the DE basically believe the same things, but they're at odds because fascists have never been ones to let racist tensions go to waste.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Who was the guy, I think maybe he was a game designer, who laid out his "philosophy" at great length in shameless, incompetent imitation of Nietzsche's writing style? It may not have been mentioned in this thread, but it was amazing.

Chocolate Teapot
May 8, 2009

Jack of Hearts posted:

Who was the guy, I think maybe he was a game designer, who laid out his "philosophy" at great length in shameless, incompetent imitation of Nietzsche's writing style? It may not have been mentioned in this thread, but it was amazing.

His real name is Alex K., (can't remember what the K stood for), but his username was usually icycalm and website was something like insomni.ac

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Chocolate Teapot posted:

His real name is Alex K., (can't remember what the K stood for), but his username was usually icycalm and website was something like insomni.ac

Kierkegaard.

I'm pretty sure that isn't actually his real name.

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ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

DeusExMachinima posted:

It's really funny how the people who can't shut up the most about how western civ rules and we've got to protect it from its ongoing genocide also basically worship al-queda's kill em all attitude and openly want to genocide them just as bad as ISIS does to unbelievers. If DE posters think THE TERRORISTS have their heads screwed on so straight to reality and all the western limp-wrists don't, doesn't that indicate western civ isn't superior actually, since its marketplace of ideas produced all these little babbys and their progressive enablers who can't handle a real man's man's war? You know the kind of war where you kill/gently caress/nuke everything that moves. Old school.

It becomes clearer when you realize that they don't mean western civilization as a cultural construct of values and ideas but really white people.

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