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Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
Oh man I remember once in Calgary I had to wait for an entire red light cycle to go through a light and I was furious. I've never been to Toronto but it doesn't sound very nice.

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Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
I poo poo you not, I just passed two remax guys on Commercial drive handing out pamphlets and telling this one couple "if you haven't bought a house yet you pretty much have no choice at these rates!" :psyduck:

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Did you punch them out

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

low rates make a high price affordable

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.

Oh yea. Two hours in a car every day. That's just what I want.

Horseshit.

ductonius
Apr 9, 2007
I heard there's a cream for that...

Rime posted:

My e-series have been lovely, though, barely making anything off them. Lost on the Canadian and International ones, in fact.

When I first got my e-series account I was stuck in +/- 2% mode for a couple of months before things picked up. The value would waffle around and make it supremely agonizing, especially since this was when I checked it every day because I was *so loving excited* to actually be doing something. Now I only log in when I have to place buy orders.

I feel your pain about the Canadian fund. I bought that one in my RRSP account five months ago and it just *now* went positive again. The DJIA being up a poo poo-ton helped make up for it though.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rbc-is-first-to-cut-mortgage-rates-as-bond-yields-plunge/article22639128/

quote:

Canada’s major banks are heading into a renewed mortgage price war in the wake of the Bank of Canada’s surprise decision to cut interest rates.

Mortgage brokers reported that Royal Bank of Canada dropped its five-year fixed rate for qualified borrowers to 2.84 per cent over the weekend. While smaller, non-bank lenders have started offering even cheaper rates, RBC's rate cut is likely a record for a major bank, said Drew Donaldson, executive vice-president of Safebridge Financial Group. The bank also slashed its posted 10-year fixed rate to 3.84 per cent, the lowest nationally advertised rate in the country, said Robert McLister, founder of Ratespy.com.

RBC spokesman Wojtek Dabrowski said the bank continues to “review the impact of the Bank of Canada’s rate decision,” and that the company’s “individual product lines continue to make pricing adjustments in the regular course of business to ensure we provide competitive rates in the marketplace.”

Bank of Nova Scotia and National Bank of Canada have also cut fixed rates on broker-originated mortgages by 10 to 20 basis points in recent days. Toronto-Dominion Bank said it was dropping its posted 5-year fixed rate on Tuesday to 3.09 per cent, down from 3.29 per cent.

Mortgage officials said RBC was among the last of the major banks to introduce new rate specials.

“National Bank already offers competitive rates over the mortgage rate spectrum as we moved early over the past weeks,” bank spokesman Claude Breton said.

A battle in the mortgage market seemed inevitable given that Government of Canada bond yields have plummeted in recent weeks, falling 57 basis points in the past month to historic lows. Brokers had predicted that falling bond yields were almost certain to drive down the fixed-rate mortgage pricing ahead of the competitive spring housing market even as banks have largely kept their prime rates, which govern variable-rate mortgages along with other types of loans, unchanged. All the major banks will soon be forced to follow the Bank of Canada and cut their prime rates 25 basis points to 2.75 per cent, Mr. Donaldson said. “We expect more cuts to come from all lenders,” he said.

Even ahead of the Bank of Canada’s unexpected rate cut last week, the country’s major banks already seemed poised for a new round of rate cuts this year. Earlier this month, Bank of Montreal chief executive officer Bill Downe told an industry conference the bank was expecting to “again have a fresh offer that is appealing to customers” in the spring. The bank drew the ire of former finance minister Jim Flaherty in 2013 after it dropped its five-year fixed mortgage rate to 2.99 per cent in what Mr. Flaherty called a “race to the bottom.”

The renewed price war is raising concerns that the central bank’s rate cut will add fuel to the country’s overheated housing market even as Canadians struggle under the burden of rising household debt. Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce deputy chief economist Benjamin Tal warned last week that falling mortgage rates could lead to “a monstrous spring in the real estate market.”

Others argue that low rates may not be enough to kick start a housing market that had already begun to slow toward the end of this year as oil prices plunged. Even as they predicted that Canada’s central bank will cut interest rates a second time later this year, TD economists said Monday they expect Canada’s real estate market to fare poorly this year as cheap crude and sky-high house prices in major cities are making it difficult for new buyers to afford to jump into the market despite low mortgage rates. “The housing market is … projected to be a drag on growth, with changes in existing home sales and prices, as well as housing starts, forecast to tilt into negative territory,” the bank said.

y'all motherfuckers knew this was coming

BUY BUY BUY

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
i wouldn't call a .15 to .2 cut a slashing or price war following a .25 cut to the overnight rate. Sounds like caution to me.

ductonius posted:

When I first got my e-series account I was stuck in +/- 2% mode for a couple of months before things picked up. The value would waffle around and make it supremely agonizing, especially since this was when I checked it every day because I was *so loving excited* to actually be doing something. Now I only log in when I have to place buy orders.

I feel your pain about the Canadian fund. I bought that one in my RRSP account five months ago and it just *now* went positive again. The DJIA being up a poo poo-ton helped make up for it though.
If you have 10-40% in canadian bond funds then you really shouldn't carry any canadian index funds. Just lump it in to an international fund with some or no canadian exposure.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Rime posted:

I can't wait for condopocalypse in about twenty years, and that's being optimistic. Our construction quality is basically a cargo-cult across the board these days. :allears:

A condo tower went up a block away (a metal and glass monstrosity that decided that GOLDENROD AND BABY BLUE was entirely appropriate for a color theme) that has the worst fit and finish of any new building I have seen. And I bet the floor plans are tiny to boot.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Bilirubin posted:

A condo tower went up a block away (a metal and glass monstrosity that decided that GOLDENROD AND BABY BLUE was entirely appropriate for a color theme) that has the worst fit and finish of any new building I have seen. And I bet the floor plans are tiny to boot.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"



etalian
Mar 20, 2006

investing in canadian stocks makes sense:

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

Baronjutter posted:

Often it's the only areas where people can afford a house, or it's where they can afford the biggest house. For the same money you can buy a tiny condo downtown, a lovely condo at the edge of town, a run-down house in a nice neighbourhood, or a huge recently built McMansion in a sparkling new up-and-coming new community!

That's not true in Winnipeg. In Winnipeg there are plenty of decent sized houses in good middle class neighborhoods that are like 15-20 minutes from downtown by transit. I think the allure of the new neighborhoods in the south is being as far away from non-whites and blue collar workers as possible.

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

And as close to the city dump as possible. So many seagulls!

ductonius
Apr 9, 2007
I heard there's a cream for that...

cowofwar posted:

If you have 10-40% in canadian bond funds then you really shouldn't carry any canadian index funds. Just lump it in to an international fund with some or no canadian exposure.

Care to elaborate on this a bit more? Are you talking corporate or government bonds?

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
^: Say you target a 25% Canadian weight to your portfolio normally. If you decide to hold that weighting in fixed income, you don't want to over weight by also buying Canadian equities. (At least I am assuming what he means.)

Coxswain Balls posted:

And as close to the city dump as possible. So many seagulls!

Life's a zero sum game so that's just the price you gotta pay.

ocrumsprug fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Jan 28, 2015

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


OK that is shittier but 1) its unfinished 2) its been unfinished for 20 years and 3) its unfinished for 20 years in Caracas so I guess I'm missing your point (unless its your prediction for what downtown Vancouver is going to look like)?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Bilirubin posted:

OK that is shittier but 1) its unfinished 2) its been unfinished for 20 years and 3) its unfinished for 20 years in Caracas so I guess I'm missing your point (unless its your prediction for what downtown Vancouver is going to look like)?

Well it's what happened during the 80s condo boom, the city even had to spend piles of money knocking down half-finished eye sores.


To quote a hit TV show that was filmed in BC, "All this has happened before, all this will happen again"

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
That is Yaletown in the future, yes.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

Coxswain Balls posted:

And as close to the city dump as possible. So many seagulls!

Hey, man, don't you go knocking the street I want to build a house on in the new development that's going to end up on that landfill.

The street will be Seagull Bay, which will be off of Shithawk Bay, at the corner of "How The gently caress Is A Bus Supposed To Get Through Here Why Is Public Transportation So lovely? Court and "Jesus Christ The Entire Neighbourhood Is Trying To Get Through This Same Four Way Intersection During Rush Hour!" Avenue

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2015/01/27/2102452/bank-of-canada-rate-cut-necessary-as-pre-emptive-strike/

quote:

In this guest post, Alex Bellefleur, global macro strategist at Pavilion Global Markets, writes that the Bank of Canada was prudent to loosen monetary policy in response to the decline in oil prices.

Last week the Bank of Canada (BOC) surprised markets by cutting interest rates 25 basis points, leaving them at 0.75%. While some argue this move was unnecessary, we are of the view that the cut is needed as a pre-emptive manoeuvre to counter private sector deleveraging.

Deleveraging processes tend to begin with asset price or income shocks (see: U.S., Spain, Ireland). Canada is currently undergoing an important income shock thanks to the collapse in the oil price, which will probably give way to an asset price shock. If history is any guide, this scenario will trigger a deleveraging process, which will represent a significant structural change for the Canadian economy.

The economy has been going through a quasi-interrupted leverage supercycle since the mid-1990s, aided and fueled by the rise in energy prices over the latter part of this period.




quote:

As we have seen in the U.S. and Europe, an economy can become mired in a liquidity trap when households focus almost exclusively on minimizing debt burdens. Initially, the central bank responds by cutting rates aggressively in order to ease the pain on the deleveraging household sector. This seems to be what the BOC is doing at the moment, pre-emptively, as it would be difficult for the BOC to argue that Canada is somehow different and completely immune to deleveraging pressures following an income/asset price shock.

The other important element in a deleveraging/liquidity trap is fiscal policy, which no one in Canada seems to be talking about at the moment. When interest rates are hovering around the zero lower bound and households are deleveraging, fiscal policy becomes paramount and the economy tends to respond better to fiscal stimulus.

When U.S. real government spending was contracting sharply around 2010-11 amid U.S. private sector deleveraging, the economy was underperforming expectations and Treasuries were rallying. The same movie played out in Europe as fiscal austerity was applied through a general environment of private sector deleveraging, amplifying the recession.

It is interesting to note that growth in Canadian real government spending is currently at its slowest since the mid-1990s period of fiscal consolidation:




quote:

Canadian provinces, which are responsible for health care and education spending, are all dealing with budget pressures. The federal government has also vowed to attain a balanced budget. If fiscal austerity hurt in the U.S. and Europe, it is difficult to see how Canada could remain immune. This is another reason why the rate cut looks appropriate at this juncture.

Let’s say the BOC didn’t cut rates on the basis that it was worried about further inflating the housing bubble. This would amount to what Paul Krugman dubbed “sadomonetarism”, which was applied in Sweden (another small, open economy closely tied to a much bigger one) in 2010-11. The results were disastrous and ended up sending Sweden into outright deflation. The BOC is no doubt aware of the Swedish lesson and wants to prevent this type of situation from happening in Canada.


The rate cut has also been questioned on the basis that the oil price drop would help the country’s manufacturing sector, which would pick up the slack from the resource industry.

One might be tempted to think of the Canadian oil/currency drop as a reallocation of wealth within the country from West to East, or from resource extraction to manufacturing. The problem with that thinking is that manufacturing orders and sales have been weak in recent months, suggesting that it is more difficult than previously thought for Canadian manufacturers to hitch their wagons to a growing U.S. economy.

This is probably due to a competitiveness problem. Canadian productivity growth has lagged the U.S. for years and the country’s export market share has been decimated over the past decade. The link between a resurgent U.S. economy and the Canadian manufacturing sector appears tenuous in the current cycle:




quote:

Another indication of the competitiveness problem is Canada’s current account deficit ex-energy, which remains around 6% of GDP despite the currency depreciation of the past few years:




quote:


In this context, rate cuts to weaken the currency and re-establish some competitiveness make sense.

The lessons of the past few years on deleveraging, premature rate hikes on macro-prudential grounds and loss of competitiveness are too important for the BOC to ignore. This is why the move to cut rates was justified.

tl;dr the boc had to cut overnight rates because all you motherfuckers are too deep in loving debt and this country is looking into a loving abyss of a liquidity trap

The solution is for the motherfucking idiots harper and oliver to stop trying to balance the loving budget

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib

Cultural Imperial posted:

The solution is for the motherfucking idiots harper and oliver to stop trying to balance the loving budget

They're gonna balance it as hard as they can until October 18, then on losing the election they'll spend the next 4 years pinning the disaster on the new government starting on the day they step into office. If they manage re-election they'll keep rates low until everybody in Alberta can do their best to escape, then open the blood gates. :getin:

Saltin
Aug 20, 2003
Don't touch
Signs that the Toronto condo market is cracking, and another warning not to sink 40k into pre-construction in 2011 for a "2015 project".

http://www.thestar.com/business/real_estate/2015/01/27/builder-quietly-cancels-condo-complex.html

Grand Theft Autobot
Feb 28, 2008

I'm something of a fucking idiot myself

Jesus, this article is awful. They cite a survey by the loving National Association of Home Builders, of 1,500 people born after 1977 (ie not Millenials), who have bought or plan to buy a house within 3 years of the survey. The journalist considers that maybe this survey has poo poo data, but don't you worry: the NAHB survey which indicates 66% of "millenials" want to live in the suburbs is corroborated by a survey from the Demand Institute which indicates nearly half of the millenials surveyed want to live in the suburbs. 66% = Nearly Half.

Thanks, journalist!

edit: National Association of Home Builders

edit2: oh god it gets worse. So the survey from NAHB shows only 10% of respondents want to live in cities, and the DI survey shows 38% of respondents want to live in cities. Somehow, through the power of Journalist Math, these surveys provide conclusive evidence for the journalist's opinion.

Journalists are loving retarded.

Grand Theft Autobot fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Jan 28, 2015

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
This massive condo development in Toronto was just cancelled and is - get this - being replanned as rental apartments: http://www.thestar.com/business/real_estate/2015/01/27/builder-quietly-cancels-condo-complex.html

According to the developers, people want to pay for actually well managed rental apartments, instead of renting a condo from a shady overseas landlord. Who would have thought?

Remember when real estate developers were all crowing about how no new rentals would ever be built without condos? What a load of horse poo poo.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

RBC posted:

This massive condo development in Toronto was just cancelled and is - get this - being replanned as rental apartments: http://www.thestar.com/business/real_estate/2015/01/27/builder-quietly-cancels-condo-complex.html

According to the developers, people want to pay for actually well managed rental apartments, instead of renting a condo from a shady overseas landlord. Who would have thought?

Remember when real estate developers were all crowing about how no new rentals would ever be built without condos? What a load of horse poo poo.

hahahahaha, right near my home and work. It's been a hole in the ground for over 2 years now. itshappening.gif.

Edit: OMFG, hilarious:

that article posted:

Under the terms of a mutual release and termination agreement that Urbancorp sent to condo buyer Wilk this week, he’ll be repaid $41,085. that’s just $1,085 for three years of interest on his $40,000 deposit.

everyone's parents/coworkers/friends posted:

real estate is a great investment

peter banana fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jan 28, 2015

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib
Oh this is fantastic news. Rental apartments by necessity are higher quality so they don't fall apart in two decades and lose tons of money for the owners.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

RBC posted:

According to the developers, people want to pay for actually well managed rental apartments, instead of renting a condo from a shady overseas landlord. Who would have thought?

"Well-managed" is the important bit. All things being equal, I'd take a corporate landlord over a person, but in Calgary the only corporate landlord I've dealt with was a shady piece of poo poo who tried to gently caress me out of what I was guaranteed was a refundable deposit, that I put down on behalf of a friend because it was right after the big flood and vacancy was so low that it could not have waited even another hour.

I stopped payment on the cheque and informed them of such, so I was only out the stop payment fee, but my buddy was a bit freaked out. They lied to him outright and then backtracked faster than I would've believed possible when I phoned them myself.

On the other hand, the corporate landlord I dealt with in Montreal for three years was very good -- the building was in good nick, had nice amenities, and they never hosed with me.

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

peter banana posted:

hahahahaha, right near my home and work. It's been a hole in the ground for over 2 years now. itshappening.gif.

Edit: OMFG, hilarious:

if you really want a laugh read the urbantoronto thread: http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthread.php/18032-Kingsclub-Condos(1100-King-W-UrbanCorp-First-Capital-18-14-12s-Tact)/page5

which is full of the typical spoiled UT condo purchasers whining about losing money

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

RBC posted:

if you really want a laugh read the urbantoronto thread: http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthread.php/18032-Kingsclub-Condos(1100-King-W-UrbanCorp-First-Capital-18-14-12s-Tact)/page5

which is full of the typical spoiled UT condo purchasers whining about losing money

choice, choice complaints there:

neuhaus Senior UT Member posted:

I always knew Urbancorp is a very bad developer -- this really puts them at the bottom of the barrel.
There really should be a revamp of the current condo laws. Developers are getting away with so much and profiting so much at the cost of its buyers.
Having your deposit tied up for so long while property values soars to unprecedented levels and not getting any compensation at all for their lack of responsibility is criminal. I gone through the same thing with another sketchy developer and it makes my blood boil.

If only there were some way to not buy a condo you haven't seen yet! :qq:

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Lmao

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.
Hey thread, I don't participate because I'm not smart enough but consider this my gift to give a little back to a thread that has entertained and educated me.

http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/apa/4865105002.html

:psyduck:

The facebook thread I found this in is full of west-enders detailing the neighbourhood as some kind of defense for a bathless one bedroom.

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
My sister's townhouse complex apparently won't have garbage pickup until the complex is 2/3rds occupied--it is at 1/3rd now. At the moment they have to use a giant construction dumpster for all refuse. I have to wonder how many complexes will be stuck like this.

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
I'm still lolling at this video linked from the ut kingsclub thread. How stupid do you have to be to buy something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o72fK8XXkQg

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Zigmidge posted:

Hey thread, I don't participate because I'm not smart enough but consider this my gift to give a little back to a thread that has entertained and educated me.

http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/apa/4865105002.html

:psyduck:

The facebook thread I found this in is full of west-enders detailing the neighbourhood as some kind of defense for a bathless one bedroom.

Wow, do you really need both a Guarantor letter and a credit report to get an apartment these days?

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

Zigmidge posted:

Hey thread, I don't participate because I'm not smart enough but consider this my gift to give a little back to a thread that has entertained and educated me.

http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/apa/4865105002.html

:psyduck:

The facebook thread I found this in is full of west-enders detailing the neighbourhood as some kind of defense for a bathless one bedroom.

? There's clearly a bathroom in those photos. That's a pretty nice place at a typical price.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

OSI bean dip posted:

My sister's townhouse complex apparently won't have garbage pickup until the complex is 2/3rds occupied--it is at 1/3rd now. At the moment they have to use a giant construction dumpster for all refuse. I have to wonder how many complexes will be stuck like this.

Honestly, that sounds better than having a specific garbage day. I've gotten so used to just throwing my garbage out whenever the gently caress I want (or need to, because it has fish or meat scraps in it) that I really dislike the idea of having a specific "garbage day" where all my garbage is taken away.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

RBC posted:

? There's clearly a bathroom in those photos. That's a pretty nice place at a typical price.

Technically, there is no bath in those photos. There is a bathroom but it doesn't contain an actual tub. This is important, because some people enjoy bathing by slowly stewing in their own filth and using a whole bunch more water than a simple shower.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

Zigmidge posted:

Hey thread, I don't participate because I'm not smart enough but consider this my gift to give a little back to a thread that has entertained and educated me.

http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/apa/4865105002.html

:psyduck:

The facebook thread I found this in is full of west-enders detailing the neighbourhood as some kind of defense for a bathless one bedroom.

Shower stalls are pretty common downtown. Even in larger bathrooms because of money. It's pricey, and the immediate neighbourhood isn't amazing, but Little Italy and Roncesvalles are about a 15 minute walk and streetcars on College and Dundas.

Oh god, it's gotten so bad, I'm defending $1800 one bedrooms.

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Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

RBC posted:

? There's clearly a bathroom in those photos. That's a pretty nice place at a typical price.
Agreed, if I made a little more I'd take it too. College and Lansdowne is not far from where I am now, and I like this area. The only problem I can see is that they're obviously going to put in a 24" fridge and those suck.

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