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Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

CharlestonJew posted:

Hanging out with reddit dad = Unhappy kid
Going to theme parks with reddit dad = Unhappy kid
Eating out with reddit dad = Unhappy kid
Playing videogames with friend, without reddit dad = Happy kid

Try to find the common denominator here

you should carefully re-read the op or maybe just stop posting

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Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Dyna Soar posted:

reddit dad said his kid hates doing anything else than playing minecraft or w/e so uhhh whats your point exactly

kids aren't machines you can make them do as you say but you can't make them enjoy it. honestly, if the ONLY thing that makes your kid happy is playing games with his creepy friend you'd be kind of disappointed too

Not everything is fun or enjoyable. Sometimes you have to do things like laundry, clean up, and work on not being a depressed and miserable fat person. You job as a parent isn't to make a kid happy all the time it's to help them become a functional adult who is equipped to do things with their life beyond turning 40 in your basement.

Otherwise it's going to be a big loving shock whenever they are on their own and figure out that lots of the things you have to do in life are pretty boring or unenjoyable.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

afeelgoodpoop posted:

current psych community recommendations when raising a more shy/withdrawn child is actually to provide much more direction and discipline in their life, like what you say. however the reddit dad said his kid does everything that's asked of him, even if they come out of it only seeing the negatives. everything the father complains about is resentment of his sons lack of spirit and positive attitude. how exactly do you beat that into somebody?

But you see getting good grades and being successful isn't enough, I don't want my kid ending up being some human being likes steve jobs.

matrix ripoff
Mar 16, 2005

~~~~~~~
i only suck dick in self defense
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and at the bookstore
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hey dad make him join the marines that'll put hair on his nuts!!!!

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




quote:

honestly, if the ONLY thing that makes your kid happy is playing games with his creepy friend you'd be kind of disappointed too

Why should you be disappointed?

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Venom Snake posted:

You know college exists so bitter weirdo's can get laid right?
Yeah I mean college is where I turned my poo poo around I'm just saying that most of my high school friends (who were in a similar boat as this kid when we were all 13) didn't. One of them literally just sat in his dorm and played wow for his entire university experience. If you don't develop these skills early it's really hard not to just go the path of least resistance and never work on them, sometimes even if you're willing to change it can be hard because the easiest way to make new friends is to already have a good social life. From the health perspective pretty much every study that's looked into it ever points to being fat as a kid making it harder to not be fat as an adult, so that's also a totally legitimate observation. From a career perspective being the kind of person who wants to stay home all day and play video games rather than progressing in a hobby with challenge/difficulty is how you end up with underachievers who can't ever seem to find jobs.

Dad is totally right in seeing that his unambitious, passive, lazy, and asocial 13 year old is going to struggle with life.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

Nuclearmonkee posted:

Not everything is fun or enjoyable. Sometimes you have to do things like laundry, clean up, and work on not being a depressed and miserable fat person. You job as a parent isn't to make a kid happy all the time it's to help them become a functional adult who is equipped to do things with their life beyond turning 40 in your basement.

Otherwise it's going to be a big loving shock whenever they are on their own and figure out that lots of the things you have to do in life are pretty boring or unenjoyable.

yeah i agree and reddit dad does too at least based on that thing he posted. the son has no interest in books, music, movies, the mechanical (whatever that means), his grades suck, he never goes out unless forced, he apparently doesn't enjoy going to amusement parks, nowhere his dad can think of that would be fun. he only likes playing minecraft with his creepy friend.

dad says he's mostly disappointed in himself for not being abled to figure out a way to make anything else appealing to his son

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I wish I could look 30 years in the future and read the reddit post the dad makes wondering why his son put him in a retirement home and never visits.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

HugoDigletts posted:

How come people cry so much nowadays? Particularly men.

BPA is the water cucking with your hormones

GrrrlSweatshirt
Jun 2, 2012

whoflungpoop posted:

its ok to make fun of City of Tampa cause he won't cry like a bitch over being called a lovely crybaby son whose worthless father is actually a popsicle stick with the word HOMO written on it

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

afeelgoodpoop posted:

current psych community recommendations when raising a more shy/withdrawn child is actually to provide much more direction and discipline in their life, like what you say. however the reddit dad said his kid does everything that's asked of him, even if they come out of it only seeing the negatives. everything the father complains about is resentment of his sons lack of spirit and positive attitude. how exactly do you beat that into somebody?

why hasnt reddit dad asked of him to get better grades and lose some weight, then?

i get the feeling reddit dad's requests are limited to taking out the trash and walking to the car

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

ArbitraryC posted:

Yeah I mean college is where I turned my poo poo around I'm just saying that most of my high school friends (who were in a similar boat as this kid when we were all 13) didn't. One of them literally just sat in his dorm and played wow for his entire university experience. If you don't develop these skills early it's really hard not to just go the path of least resistance and never work on them, sometimes even if you're willing to change it can be hard because the easiest way to make new friends is to already have a good social life. From the health perspective pretty much every study that's looked into it ever points to being fat as a kid making it harder to not be fat as an adult, so that's also a totally legitimate observation. From a career perspective being the kind of person who wants to stay home all day and play video games rather than progressing in a hobby with challenge/difficulty is how you end up with underachievers who can't ever seem to find jobs.

Dad is totally right in seeing that his unambitious, passive, lazy, and asocial 13 year old is going to struggle with life.

Actually playing video games all day is fine if you go to college and get good grades and an internship. I don't think a single Comp Sci major Iv ever met was anything but a turbo nerd who watches you know what but they still got laid.

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
in henry rollins voice:

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

Dyna Soar posted:

you should carefully re-read the op or maybe just stop posting

I will do neither but I'm saying that nerdy son probably opens up a lot more when he's not with reddit dad.

matrix ripoff
Mar 16, 2005

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i only suck dick in self defense
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and at the bookstore
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To the stupid, smelly, probably gay rear end in a top hat who dates my non-existent daughter: I have five simple rules

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yeah this kid who does what pretty much all guys in college do these days sure is a giant gently caress up.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Venom Snake posted:

Actually playing video games all day is fine if you go to college and get good grades and an internship. I don't think a single Comp Sci major Iv ever met was anything but a turbo nerd who watches you know what but they still got laid.
What comp sci department did you go to? My brother was comp sci and he said pretty much all the guy in his department were as nerdy as him and no one was getting laid.

Besides though the kid is also getting bad grades and not coding in his spare time. My brother was a giant asocial nerdlord but he programmed for shits and giggles in his spare time because it was something outside video games and anime that interested him. Kids like the one in the OP are more the type to go into comp sci because they like computer games and then drop out when they realize the material requires effort.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

Venom Snake posted:

Yeah this kid who does what pretty much all guys in college do these days sure is a giant gently caress up.

hey video game avatar dude this is totally not true

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Dyna Soar posted:

yeah i agree and reddit dad does too at least based on that thing he posted. the son has no interest in books, music, movies, the mechanical (whatever that means), his grades suck, he never goes out unless forced, he apparently doesn't enjoy going to amusement parks, nowhere his dad can think of that would be fun. he only likes playing minecraft with his creepy friend.

dad says he's mostly disappointed in himself for not being abled to figure out a way to make anything else appealing to his son

it doesnt say he doesnt enjoy going to amusement parks, it says that he is scared of heights and the fast rides

it also says that he doesnt complain and does what he is told when his dad does it even if he doesnt particularly enjoy things that are intended to be fun

he apparently cries frequently at things that his father finds baffling

he also regularly seeks comfort in passive activities and junk food and seems to regularly have bad experiences when put into a social situation like at camp

he enjoys the company of his mother more than his father, who we know has a chip on his shoulder pertaining to "manliness" and poo poo



the dude in the op's son has an anxiety disorder or autism or some other kind of developmental handicap that his dad is too stupid to recognize and its going untreated because instead of talking with teachers or social workers or other professionals the kids father is posting passive aggressive rants on reddit about how much he wants to beat his son for being confusing

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dyna Soar posted:

hey video game avatar dude this is totally not true

Eat junk food and play video games is pretty much par for the course in any college you go to.

ArbitraryC posted:

What comp sci department did you go to? My brother was comp sci and he said pretty much all the guy in his department were as nerdy as him and no one was getting laid.

Besides though the kid is also getting bad grades and not coding in his spare time. My brother was a giant asocial nerdlord but he programmed for shits and giggles in his spare time because it was something outside video games and anime that interested him. Kids like the one in the OP are more the type to go into comp sci because they like computer games and then drop out when they realize the material requires effort.

You probably need to either be celibate, or look like that dude from the goonies to not get laid as a nerd in college.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

Fojar38 posted:

it doesnt say he doesnt enjoy going to amusement parks, it says that he is scared of heights and the fast rides

it also says that he doesnt complain and does what he is told when his dad does it even if he doesnt particularly enjoy things that are intended to be fun

he apparently cries frequently at things that his father finds baffling

he also regularly seeks comfort in passive activities and junk food and seems to regularly have bad experiences when put into a social situation like at camp

he enjoys the company of his mother more than his father, who we know has a chip on his shoulder pertaining to "manliness" and poo poo



the dude in the op's son has an anxiety disorder or autism or some other kind of developmental handicap that his dad is too stupid to recognize and its going untreated because instead of talking with teachers or social workers or other professionals the kids father is posting passive aggressive rants on reddit about how much he wants to beat his son for being confusing

idk what crystal ball you got most of that poo poo from

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

afeelgoodpoop posted:

current psych community recommendations when raising a more shy/withdrawn child is actually to provide much more direction and discipline in their life, like what you say. however the reddit dad said his kid does everything that's asked of him, even if they come out of it only seeing the negatives. everything the father complains about is resentment of his sons lack of spirit and positive attitude. how exactly do you beat that into somebody?

When the kid starts crying over stupid poo poo to try and manipulate you, you aggressively tell him to shut the gently caress up and stop being such a baby. He's 13, not 5.

Or you let him do it and he will quickly become an insufferable and non-functional adult, and then you can feel good about what a great parent you are to your 30 year old perma-baby that is incapable of supporting himself emotionally or financially.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

Venom Snake posted:

Eat junk food and play video games is pretty much par for the course in any college you go to.

you need to re-read the op or just stop posting

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I remember when I was 13 and had life figured out

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Dyna Soar posted:

idk what crystal ball you got most of that poo poo from

its all in the op

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


LegoPirateNinja posted:

why hasnt reddit dad asked of him to get better grades and lose some weight, then?

i get the feeling reddit dad's requests are limited to taking out the trash and walking to the car

This. Sounds like passive neglect which is what I got when I was a troglodyte living with my parents. Hopefully the kid figures it out once he gets out though I know many of my fellow trogs never did.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

Fojar38 posted:

its all in the op

it's not though, you're making pretty far out assumptions based on the op

Greed is eternal
Jun 8, 2008
this thread triggered me hard

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dyna Soar posted:

you need to re-read the op or just stop posting

The dude literally says he thinks his kid is broken because he eats junk food and plays minecraft despite doing what ever his dad asks of him lmao.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

Venom Snake posted:

The dude literally says he thinks his kid is broken because he eats junk food and plays minecraft despite doing what ever his dad asks of him lmao.

that's not what he says at all

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Dyna Soar posted:

it's not though, you're making pretty far out assumptions based on the op

i suppose it could all be lies but nobody would lie on the internet least of all reddit

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Venom Snake posted:

You probably need to either be celibate, or look like that dude from the goonies to not get laid as a nerd in college.
It's something like 25% nowadays actually, surprisingly high.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Were having some very interesting discussion here for something that is very obviously STDH

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
dad doesn't want his son to turn into a sensitive, antisocial goon and surprise surprise goons are up in arms about it lol

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

Fojar38 posted:

i suppose it could all be lies but nobody would lie on the internet least of all reddit

no you read it how you want to and assume poo poo based on what he writes like his son likes being with his mom more and that he has autism or a similar disability.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

a bone to pick posted:

dad doesn't want his son to turn into a sensitive, antisocial goon and surprise surprise goons are up in arms about it lol

hits too close to home yes

afeelgoodpoop
Oct 14, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

City of Tampa posted:

When the kid starts crying over stupid poo poo to try and manipulate you, you aggressively tell him to shut the gently caress up and stop being such a baby. He's 13, not 5.

Or you let him do it and he will quickly become an insufferable and non-functional adult, and then you can feel good about what a great parent you are to your 30 year old perma-baby that is incapable of supporting himself emotionally or financially.

where does it say his kid cried to manipulate him? all it says is his son cried over stupid poo poo. i find it unlikely that a child that has the self discipline and parental submission to do poo poo he doesnt like is crying to be manipulative.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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a bone to pick posted:

dad doesn't want his son to turn into a sensitive, antisocial goon and surprise surprise goons are up in arms about it lol

so sayeth forums poster a bone to pick, alpha goon

bigstupidjellyfish
Oct 25, 2010

Zombies' Downfall posted:

it's also kind of funny that his kid is 13 and not like 17 or 7, isn't middle school like, everybody's social and emotional nadir

yeah I was gonna post something like this. first couple paragraphs I was somewhat sympathetic to the dad, but then I came to the line about him being 13. most 13-year-olds are creepy wieners, whether they spend all their time playing video games or digging for pornography in the woods. the only thing I really agree about is that his mom shouldn't be indulging his bad eating habits, but then the dad could totally be misrepresenting that.

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Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

a bone to pick posted:

dad doesn't want his son to turn into a sensitive, antisocial goon and surprise surprise goons are up in arms about it lol

What's wrong with being sensitive? Is being autistic and unable to read peoples emotions considered a good trait now?

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