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evol262 posted:It's honestly just common courtesy to tell them what service account you left a script that's shutting them down is running under. Even if they " knew it existed". Don't be a dick What does the world look like down there being a door mat and all?
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ratbert90 posted:What does the world look like down there being a door mat and all? I think it's a lot easier to preach about what's "right" when you are happy and treated well, that's all.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:22
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ratbert90 posted:What does the world look like down there being a door mat and all? This is kind of dumb. evol262 is a nice dude (who is pretty well compensated, I'd imagine, I don't think he's looking up from "down there") who gives a lot of good advice - technical and otherwise - and between this and the other thread is having to defend some fairly basic "don't be a dick" statements.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:27
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maybe he should stop making stupid comments relating to employee/employer relations
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Jan 28, 2015 19:32
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I don't understand how all these lawyers and accountants are totally cool with operating computers loaded to the brim with all sorts of viruses and spyware and poo poo with all of their customers data on it. Working in HELL DESK as really given me a new perspective on just how taped-together most small businesses are.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:34
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Che Delilas posted:I think it's a lot easier to preach about what's "right" when you are happy and treated well, that's all. Thanks, but I wasn't always happy and being treated well. And I'm not always happy and being treated well now. I just don't think moral or ethical behavior is relative to your situation, as a philosophical statement. Not everyone needs to buy into the "gently caress everybody other than me" groupthink here.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:35
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"The gently caress everyone but me" group think can be a bit tiring but I'd say AAB is in his right to not tell them. His time and work have a value, he gave them everything they needed and was compensated for it. Any new issues are their problem and it sounds like they have the solution themselves, they just need to do the work to fix things. If they want AAB to fix it they can pay him.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:41
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evol262 posted:Not everyone needs to buy into the "gently caress everybody other than me" groupthink here. I think it's funny how the backlash against "Randian" stuff ends up with people just becoming it.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:42
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Bad employers should get that treatment though. If he had a great relationship with his previous employer and didn't have any issues with them, then sure; a 2 second email that says "rm -rf /home/butt/ddos_fart.sh" would be fine. But it sounded like his old employer is a poo poo company that wants something for nothing.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:48
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evol262 posted:Thanks, but I wasn't always happy and being treated well. And I'm not always happy and being treated well now. I just don't think moral or ethical behavior is relative to your situation, as a philosophical statement. That's fine, I happen to fundamentally disagree with that philosophy so I'll stop talking past you about it. But in AAB's case specifically, as far as I can tell he behaved perfectly appropriately. He sorted things before he left that company and he even helped them out for nothing when one of them sent him a personal email and asked him to check something. Common courtesy does not extend to remembering every goddamn detail about the infrastructure of every company you ever worked for, and refusing to be a company's pro-bono memory aid is not being a dick.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:49
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The thing here is that he already did the standup thing. How many times does he need to do that before he starts charging the company for wasting his time? The answer might be 1, or 2, or, 10... but there's a number.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:51
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MJP posted:Stupid question time. Is that remote location connected with a VPN or is your IIS server at that location?
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Jan 28, 2015 20:48
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Che Delilas posted:in AAB's case specifically, as far as I can tell he behaved perfectly appropriately. He sorted things before he left that company and he even helped them out for nothing when one of them sent him a personal email and asked him to check something. jim truds posted:he gave them everything they needed and was compensated for it. Any new issues are their problem and it sounds like they have the solution themselves, they just need to do the work to fix things. If they want AAB to fix it they can pay him. ratbert90 posted:But it sounded like his old employer is a poo poo company that wants something for nothing. These are all correct. Considering I was told that I was a waste of space on payroll and it took 3 months to get my final paycheck and then my boss (the company owner) decided that instead of allowing me to take vacation that it would be denied and payed out at 3/4 my rate, poo poo company is right. I have a WAY better job and had plenty of funds to have funemployment and open a brewery while shopping around for my current sick NetAdmin job
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Jan 28, 2015 21:14
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I'm trying to track down a software license that's tied to a MAC address and decided that nmap was the fastest route. I scanned the entire /24 so it hit the gateway and the return I got was not one I wanted to see.code: What's worse is that I know for a fact that the router we use can have SSH enabled on it for remote access. pr0digal fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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Jan 28, 2015 21:57
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It's 2015 how the gently caress do viruses still exist? Why can't Windows just come with good AV Software?
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Jan 28, 2015 23:19
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Malware these days is basically like Johnny Depp in Transcendence, in that it sucks
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Jan 28, 2015 23:21
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Tab8715 posted:It's 2015 how the gently caress do viruses still exist? Why can't Windows just come with good AV Software? Because people are smart and it's hugely profitable.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:21
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GreenNight posted:Because people are smart and it's hugely profitable. And the targets are sooooo dumb.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:22
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Tab8715 posted:It's 2015 how the gently caress do viruses still exist? Why can't Windows just come with good AV Software? Ordinary viruses barely exist. Targeted not-really-spreading things like cryptolocker are much more common.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:22
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To do cool fun stuff with a computer you need access to sensitive parts unfortunately people are idiots and give access to those sensitive parts to people that claim they will do cool fun stuff but in reality to lame mean stuff. Also all viruses are created by McAfee, so that they can make millions selling their antivirus software.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:32
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Tab8715 posted:It's 2015 how the gently caress do viruses still exist? Why can't Windows just come with good AV Software? Antitrust.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:40
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This all reminds me that I haven't watched John Mcafee's "How to Uninstall McAfee Antivirus" in a few months.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:44
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Inspector_666 posted:Antitrust. Not really, Windows 8 does come with rebranded MSE which works just fine.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:45
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Tab8715 posted:It's 2015 how the gently caress do viruses still exist? Why can't Windows just come with good AV Software? It doesn't, we're all just playing an elaborate trick on you.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:45
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If Windows shipped with a robust toolset, they wouldn't be able to charge for it. I once asked a Microsoft guy why they didn't ship with common tools like a ssh server, ftp client, monitoring, backup (this was years ago), and his response was that it was so "there could be a robust 3rd party ecosystem" AKA they want you to pay money for it because those companies take some of that money and give it to Microsoft in terms of signed programs, silver/gold partners, and development IDEs. He used the solarwinds company as a perfect example.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:46
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Nintendo Kid posted:Not really, Windows 8 does come with rebranded MSE which works just fine. I thought I heard they had to unbundle Defender because of legal threats, I guess that was just scuttlebutt.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:49
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They really did get in trouble with regulators regarding the bundling of the browser and media player, so it's kind of understandable they didn't want to do the same thing with an antivirus component.
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Jan 29, 2015 00:15
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What IS the product that ships with Win8.1? Is it good enough as an AV or should I also install MSE next to/instead of it?
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Jan 29, 2015 01:34
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Swink posted:What IS the product that ships with Win8.1? Is it good enough as an AV or should I also install MSE next to/instead of it? It is mse rebranded, but mse is terrible these days.
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Jan 29, 2015 03:36
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Swink posted:What IS the product that ships with Win8.1? Is it good enough as an AV or should I also install MSE next to/instead of it? Plus if you try and install MSE, itll throw an error that Defender is already installed.
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Jan 29, 2015 04:02
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The Fool posted:It is mse rebranded, but mse is terrible these days. No, it really isn't. MSE/Defender is enough to keep my idiot little brother from getting his laptop infected with viruses when he's downloading shady game hacks so it should be good enough for most people; and unlike other free antiviruses it doesn't have arbitrary restrictions or random "upgrade now" messages.
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Jan 29, 2015 06:24
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God damnit tier 1, please at least pretend to know what you are doing! "Can we install autorun.exe?"
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Jan 29, 2015 13:23
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evobatman posted:God damnit tier 1, please at least pretend to know what you are doing! We've started assuming that T1 are looking for us to do the exact opposite of what they're requesting on the ticket... It's working out pretty well so far.
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Jan 29, 2015 13:40
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WhoNeedsAName posted:We've started assuming that T1 are looking for us to do the exact opposite of what they're requesting on the ticket... I hate that we had to do this, but I actually had to create THE BINDER OF TROUBLESHOOTING for T1 because T2 was bitching about "they're not doing it right"
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Jan 29, 2015 16:20
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flosofl posted:I hate that we had to do this, but I actually had to create THE BINDER OF TROUBLESHOOTING for T1 because T2 was bitching about "they're not doing it right" Our T1s have one of those too but have taken it upon themselves to completly ignore it 
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Jan 29, 2015 17:05
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:This all reminds me that I haven't watched John Mcafee's "How to Uninstall McAfee Antivirus" in a few months. I haven't watched this, I hope it's just him getting high as gently caress then beating the hell out of a PC with a hammer.
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Jan 29, 2015 17:05
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Rhymenoserous posted:I haven't watched this, I hope it's just him getting high as gently caress then beating the hell out of a PC with a hammer. Very close. Not really SFW.
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Jan 29, 2015 17:08
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Skex posted:Is that remote location connected with a VPN or is your IIS server at that location? In the end we just went with Gmail's anonymous-accepting SMTP for sending to Gmail/Gapps users only.
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Jan 29, 2015 17:26
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Nintendo Kid posted:No, it really isn't. MSE/Defender is enough to keep my idiot little brother from getting his laptop infected with viruses when he's downloading shady game hacks so it should be good enough for most people; and unlike other free antiviruses it doesn't have arbitrary restrictions or random "upgrade now" messages. "good enough" for some people is fine. However, that doesn't change the fact that benchmarks put MSE's detection rate 30-40% behind every other AV program on the market. On top of that, anecdotaly, MSE does absolutely nothing to prevent modern adware and many newer ransomwares.
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Very close. Even his hookers are bloatware.
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