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I liked when he basically fought ravager evenly even though she was high on mirakuru. I don't think he was beaten by the time the van ran her over.
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:I sort of thing Rhas specifically didn't mean to kill him and instead did a surgical disabling strike, knowing that Ollie didn't kill Sarah, but he had to honor his trial by combat challenge. I really hope that's the case. Yeah, sure. You just let us know how there's a "safe" way to stab someone completely through and throw them down a 100 foot cliff. That may be what what the show is going for though, since Maseo still seems to be working for Rhas despite the display of killing the Assassins in front of Oliver.
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Jan 30, 2015 16:38
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Yeah, sure. You just let us know how there's a "safe" way to stab someone completely through and throw them down a 100 foot cliff. That may be what what the show is going for though, since Maseo still seems to be working for Rhas despite the display of killing the Assassins in front of Oliver. This is also the show with miracle herbs that cure all kinds of things, that the protagonist generally keeps for himself (as opposed to using them to help all kinds of people). Yeah, I don't really find the "100 foot not-so-bad" fall that satisfying, but it's looking like that is what happened.
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imperialparadox posted:This is also the show with miracle herbs that cure all kinds of things, that the protagonist generally keeps for himself (as opposed to using them to help all kinds of people). Yeah, I don't really find the "100 foot not-so-bad" fall that satisfying, but it's looking like that is what happened. It's going to be a bit disappointing if there isn't something supernatural-ly screwy with Oliver's return. Whatever that plant is might suffice if it gets some more background in course of explaining how it cures stabbings but now that The Flash has uttered those very special words Arrow just going "You were dead!" "I got better." seems like it'll just fall completely flat.
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zoux posted:I uh, er...ah.. well. gulp.... That cast really likes working together.
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Jan 30, 2015 18:01
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Have Felicity and Thea even spoken to each other before?
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Aphrodite posted:Have Felicity and Thea even spoken to each other before? They showed at the beginning of the season they have been working together.
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They had a few scenes together at the Queen mansion, at the very least. But even beyond interacting on set, the cast all probably spends a bunch of time together doing promotional stuff. It happens on other shows too. Maisie Williams and Sophie Turner are close friends even though their GoT characters haven't been in the same scene since the first season.
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Jan 30, 2015 18:22
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TyrantWD posted:If there are parts of the show you would consider skipping, perhaps the show is not for you at all. Aphrodite posted:My 3 minutes are precious. It is more like 10-15 minutes, but it doesn't have anything to do with the time, but just that I don't find it interesting. I think those minutes could be spent better on the relatively large cast in the present day. Overall i really like the show, so I don't think this is a sign that I should stop watching, it isn't much different from back when everybody hated Laurel's character.
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Oasx posted:It is more like 10-15 minutes, but it doesn't have anything to do with the time, but just that I don't find it interesting. I think those minutes could be spent better on the relatively large cast in the present day. Yeah but you know that those flashbacks are going to tie into the current storyline as they have before.
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EBR is also dating Colton Haynes, so they probably run into each other more often than beyond their scenes together.
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hcreight posted:They had a few scenes together at the Queen mansion, at the very least. But even beyond interacting on set, the cast all probably spends a bunch of time together doing promotional stuff. It happens on other shows too. Maisie Williams and Sophie Turner are close friends even though their GoT characters haven't been in the same scene since the first season. Emily and Willa are also the same age and the rest are a bit older, so it makes sense they'd hang out.
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bobkatt013 posted:Yeah but you know that those flashbacks are going to tie into the current storyline as they have before.
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zoux posted:I uh, er...ah.. well. gulp.... ...is Willa getting to second base in that pic?
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I realise its a super hero show but lol at the police in this. The mayor did a better job of surviving the episode than she did in Dexter
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Bad Moon posted:...is Willa getting to second base in that pic? Over the shirt counts as second base? drat I got there younger than I thought I did.
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zoux posted:When Brick said that LA abandoned a sector in 1992, was he referring to the riots? That's how I interpreted it.
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Bad Moon posted:...is Willa getting to second base in that pic? You have failed Theacity.
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Either she's grabbing her own boob, there is something weird going on with the perspective or Willa can do funky things with her arm.
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Timett posted:Either she's grabbing her own boob, there is something weird going on with the perspective or Willa can do funky things with her arm. You can see Emily's arm behind Willa's.
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Gaz-L posted:You can see Emily's arm behind Willa's. But not their elbows! Anyway it's definitely Willa's or the thumbs would be backward. I'm glad I got to the bottom of this. Still seems like an awkward way to bend your arm.
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Jan 31, 2015 02:24
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Malcolm's been passin' on ancient League of Assassin groping secrets.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Yeah, sure. You just let us know how there's a "safe" way to stab someone completely through and throw them down a 100 foot cliff. That may be what what the show is going for though, since Maseo still seems to be working for Rhas despite the display of killing the Assassins in front of Oliver. You just let me know the way you get stabbed through the chest, cough up blood (which indicates a punctured lung) and then kicked off a cliff, and be healed with "the cold helped" and a few stitches and gauze.
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Jan 31, 2015 02:57
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It's a show based on a comic book. Also, people in real life have probably trekked for a week and a half through burning desert after falling out of a plane and breaking every thing. The human body is kind of terrifying.
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You can't just dramatically kill your main character, have him stabbed by the best assassin in the world who symbolically marks his death, kick him off a cliff, go on a short mid-season hiatus and have him come back to life because you know, uh, ancient Japanese medicine maybe? Oliver was dead. You don't get to literally bring major characters back to life without explanation. I'm not complaining about the idea of resurrecting people - it's a comic book show - but it is such a cop out to have an extreme death shot with no ambiguity, whose purpose was clearly to say to the audience "Oliver has been murdered", and then resurrect them with seemingly no narrative consequences beyond they have to lay low for awhile. I don't care about Lazarus Pits, I'm not a comic book guy, but a Lazarus Pit resurrection would be cool because it would have narrative implications: it would be an extreme solution for an extreme problem. Resurrecting him with Mirakuru would have been narratively interesting. I don't even know what this is other than a lame way to string the audience along and write a trashy cliffhanger. I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. I'm really hoping there winds up being more consequences than "Oliver has to drink bad tasting tea" because holy poo poo lol if that's all it takes. It feels like this season has no anchor and they're making it up as they go along, which is weird because what elevated Season 1 and 2 was the sense of arc. They can still do something interesting with Oliver's death, but I'm just genuinely amazed at how they downplayed Oliver's cinematic death after overplaying at volume 11. edit: also keep in mind at least three expert characters have concluded that Oliver died. Ras concluded he murdered Oliver and didn't bother to check. Malcolm went to the site of Oliver's death and concluded he was dead. And Maseo's wife even said that he had died, even if she meant it metaphorically. Dude fuckin' died, according to the show, until he didn't. Periodiko fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jan 31, 2015 |
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MY loving REALISM. Jesus Christ, settle down guys.
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Jan 31, 2015 06:41
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You don't know Ra's wanted to kill him.
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Periodiko posted:edit: also keep in mind at least three expert characters have concluded that Oliver died. Ras concluded he murdered Oliver and didn't bother to check. Malcolm went to the site of Oliver's death and concluded he was dead. And Maseo's wife even said that he had died, even if she meant it metaphorically. Dude fuckin' died, according to the show, until he didn't. We saw in this episode that Maseo is still in Ra's good graces, and unsure if he was sent to revive Oliver. Malcom went and only saw the sword that Ra placed. He might have been very close to death, but Maseo's wife brought him back. We also do not know what the Omega is and that could have been part of the cure.
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Aphrodite posted:You don't know Ra's wanted to kill him. Like, what? We don't know for sure that Felicity isn't secretly a H.I.V. agent or something but that doesn't mean we should be treating that as if that's actually the case. Oliver's "resurrection" has been dumb so far. Until we get information making it less dumb, it remains pretty dumb.
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Aphrodite posted:They didn't say they weren't allowed. In fact they've basically said yeah they exist but they aren't using them for Ollie. Huh. I assumed DC put the kibosh on Lazarus pits altogether. It seems strange then to have herbs bring Olly back from that if they are going to use Lazarus pits in the future - it sort of cheapens the pits if the same thing can be done with herbs. Unless next time Olly is literally eviscerated, and they chuck his gibs into the pit and it heals him. Then it'd seem like something more special. My guess then is that they're saving the pits for Ras himself. That in Olly vs Ras round 2, Olly wins and kills Ras. Ras is resurrected by a pit and any debts or vendettas are forgiven. After all, Olly and Thea et al have to come out of this in the clear with Ras, and Ras can't be killed off permanently. I hoped they'd go with a very different direction and have Ras resurrect Olly in a pit, and it hosed with his memory and he was basically brainwashed into becoming a league member. Then over the course of many eps doing missions with the league, he starts to remember who he was and eventually regains his identity. Alas it wasn't to be.
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I love how Laurel can't even jump off a fire escape w/out almost killing herself. I almost want her to go up against The just because Thea hasn't had a turn kicking her rear end. Hell, I just enjoy watching the character of Laurel herself get her rear end kicked because she has no business immersing herself in crime fighting and combat.
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BrianWilly posted:The sword sticking through Oliver's chest says he did. You trying to imply that Ra's isn't a good enough assassin to miss everything important?
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The coolest thing about this show is the first google result for 'black driver'
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GreenNight posted:His sweet abs protected his lungs and stomach. The salmon ladder helps protect against being shanked. Oliver Queen could not have died, because the Salmon Ladder did not choose to let him die.
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Azhais posted:You trying to imply that Ra's isn't a good enough assassin to miss everything important? I hope this show has the balls for something as gloriously stupid as Ras fake-murdering Oliver, throwing him off a mountain, leaving him to rot for days, then having Maseo rescue him and bring in his estranged wife for no apparent reason, then fake killing three assassins for no apparent reason, all as a gambit to expose Malcolm. I think they've decided that the trials and tribulations the main character must face to come back to life is that he has to drink bad tasting tea, though.
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bobkatt013 posted:We saw in this episode that Maseo is still in Ra's good graces, and unsure if he was sent to revive Oliver. Malcom went and only saw the sword that Ra placed. He might have been very close to death, but Maseo's wife brought him back. We also do not know what the Omega is and that could have been part of the cure. Oliver was revived by the Omega Effect distilled into a vial. Next season, what is the secret of the mysterious Doug Side?
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Oliver just thinks it's "tea". It's actually magical island herbs brewed with Lazarus Pit water.
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Whizbang posted:Oliver just thinks it's "tea". It's actually magical island herbs brewed with Lazarus Pit water. That would be good enough, just show a flashback of the water being collected. after Felicity scans Oliver and says you should be dead.
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