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I keep reading Roman as Rowan and it makes me really excited, then sad. Well, that's my contribution to the thread.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:06 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 19:07 |
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Triple H will probably announce a match between Reigns and Axel, Axel will get a big pop, then Reigns will squash him.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:08 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I dunno if you're being sarcastic or not but I actually legit agree. I mean yes, it was terribly executed but goddamn, dude went for a long shot and I respect that, especially given recent (justified) criticisms. Not sarcastic. Trying out new moves/spots to see if they work for you is something I won't ever blame a guy for. If it doesn't work, then hopefully he's learned from it and if it does, he's a better wrestler. I assume the hurracanrana spot will lead to the apron dropkick if he keeps it.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:11 |
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Did you know: Roman doing a terrible hurricanrana on a SmackDown was intended by him as a direct and personal insult to the life and family of Eddie Guerrero?
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:13 |
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Sting is going to help Roman keep his mania spot and sting will then be booed
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:16 |
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projecthalaxy posted:Did you know: Roman doing a terrible hurricanrana on a SmackDown was intended by him as a direct and personal insult to the life and family of Eddie Guerrero?
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:16 |
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BGrifter posted:Yeah I'm glad they unified the belts, but Bryan vs Brock with the Big Gold Belt while Reigns chases John Cena's bedazzled piece of poo poo would have been a lot more palatable. If they hadn't unified the titles, Bryan would've been going after the fake/practice world title against Big Show or something last year.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:16 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I dunno if you're being sarcastic or not but I actually legit agree. I mean yes, it was terribly executed but goddamn, dude went for a long shot and I respect that, especially given recent (justified) criticisms. I just want to know whose bonehead idea it was for Roman to try that in the first place. Yes, Roman needs to diversify his work, but his appeal is big powerhouse, give him some more moves in that vein. I get that he's not going to bust out a suplex on Big Show, but there has to be something better than trying to incorporate some half-assed Rey Mysterio move. Even if he pulled it off flawlessly, it still would have looked dumb.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:17 |
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oldpainless posted:Not sarcastic. Trying out new moves/spots to see if they work for you is something I won't ever blame a guy for. If it doesn't work, then hopefully he's learned from it and if it does, he's a better wrestler. I assume the hurracanrana spot will lead to the apron dropkick if he keeps it. you dont try those things on tv though
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:18 |
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i came to see roman reigns do a springboard dragonrana to the outside
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:19 |
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It was nice of Roman to make me laugh , but I'd prefer to be impressed and enjoy his matches instead
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:20 |
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StarkRavingMad posted:I just want to know whose bonehead idea it was for Roman to try that in the first place. Yes, Roman needs to diversify his work, but his appeal is big powerhouse, give him some more moves in that vein. I get that he's not going to bust out a suplex on Big Show, but there has to be something better than trying to incorporate some half-assed Rey Mysterio move. Even if he pulled it off flawlessly, it still would have looked dumb. Good call. Roman should use headbutts, Samoan drops, gorilla presses, backdrops, bodyslams, powerslams, lariats, belly-to-belly suplexes, sidewalk slams, and other simple/powerful stuff. Spermgod posted:you dont try those things on tv though Exactly. I would put money on Cena having used the hurricanrana at house shows a dozen times before busting it out on TV. Unless Roman has been doing them, and this is the result of 2 months' practice on house shows.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:21 |
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That hurricanroman made me wish that Luke Harper was the one getting the push. Harper's dropkick looks like the Incredible Hulk threw a truck at someone. Also, I don't think the superman punch photographs well. In most still photos I see of it, he looks like George Costanza jumping over a puddle.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:22 |
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the problem with roman doing power moves is i think he doesn't actually have a great deal of functional strength. at least we've never seen any indication that he does but he did just have a hernia.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:24 |
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StarkRavingMad posted:I just want to know whose bonehead idea it was for Roman to try that in the first place. Yes, Roman needs to diversify his work, but his appeal is big powerhouse, give him some more moves in that vein. I get that he's not going to bust out a suplex on Big Show, but there has to be something better than trying to incorporate some half-assed Rey Mysterio move. Even if he pulled it off flawlessly, it still would have looked dumb. Vince: The smarks were impressed for a second that one time Cena did a Frankensteiner. Tell him to do something like that DAMNIT! Now get the hell out of my office! (I may have been listening to too much of the Lapsed Fan podcast)
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:25 |
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Spermgod posted:the problem with roman doing power moves is i think he doesn't actually have a great deal of functional strength. at least we've never seen any indication that he does but he did just have a hernia. He's callow and weak.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:26 |
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I won't be satisfied till Roman Reigns is doing moves like this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q6v9yhspgQo Get to work Roman. Edit: I love that the top Youtube recommendation on that video for me is a compilation of Kevin Nash jackknife powerbombs. BGrifter fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jan 30, 2015 |
# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:26 |
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Orgophlax posted:Triple H will probably announce a match between Reigns and Axel, Axel will get a big pop, then Reigns will squash him. Please let this happen. The reaction to this would be fanfuckingtastic.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:28 |
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StarkRavingMad posted:I just want to know whose bonehead idea it was for Roman to try that in the first place. It's quite simple really, John Cena does a rana
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:28 |
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Dimebags Brain posted:Well, sticklefifer called it. So wait are they doing Bryan vs The Rock or what?
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:28 |
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senseinobu posted:So wait are they doing Bryan vs The Rock or what? They could be doing Rock vs HHH. They did tease it last year. Or maybe they'll do Rock vs HHH vs Sting, see who the true champion of the Attitude Era is* *Stone Cold Steve Austin
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:30 |
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Vince wants his big pretty hoss, but he also wants his underdog fighting Goliaths. The outcome is the face can only work Big Show and Kane, because everyone else is David against him.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:30 |
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senseinobu posted:So wait are they doing Bryan vs The Rock or what? Hah. They'd have to bring back Rock as a heel. Remember a year and a half ago when the crowd booed Shawn Michaels over Bryan's loss at Hell in a Cell and cheered when he was put in the Yes! Lock?
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:32 |
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The Rock will be banned from wrestling at WM31. He wasn't going to anyway, but still.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:34 |
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Gaz-L posted:Vince wants his big pretty hoss, but he also wants his underdog fighting Goliaths. The outcome is the face can only work Big Show and Kane, because everyone else is David against him. they could have a chickenshit heel who cheats at every turn, stalls, begs off when the other guy gets the advantage etc and it wouldnt matter if he was small but that would require someone to actually work as a heel which is apparently not allowed in WWE now because ???
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:35 |
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I want Bully/Bubba Ray to come back (continue coming back) and have brutal hoss offs with Ryback and Wyatt. I also want Roman Reigns to get trapped in a canvas bag.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:35 |
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I really don't understand where they're going if what the Rock did is going to be the controversy - making the save on 2 heels no longer in the match is so far from being a rule-breaking action that anything done to punish Reigns for it is going to come off as absurd and arbitrary. On top of that, they have already been doing the 'Reigns was given a ticket' on RAW, so making the Authority super anti-Reigns all of a sudden is running counter to that narrative, especially when The Authority don't seem to be on Lesnar's side at all, and their guy Rollins would want the title off Lesnar anyway. The other option is that HHH is tryin to feud with the Rock again, but that's not going to happen this year so why bother. Plus, faking out that they're going to make good on their lovely booking then plow on with their normal storyline anyway is just going to antagonise the live fans even further.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:37 |
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I know people keep saying Roman is a power dude who should keep doing power moves, but is he actually in any way a power dude? I mean the triple powerbomb which was his big finisher thing during the shield era was dean and seth doing all the lifting and roman hoverhanding the guy as he falls. The samoan drop features no lifting, just a guy jumping and roman falling. I don't think I've ever seen Roman do a single power move which wasn't set up for him like a four year old on his dads shoulders doing a slam dunk. He also isn't fast or agile nor is he a convincing brawler. What the hell is roman besides a couple of baby spots they would give to guys like Dennis Rodman for them to get over easy.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:40 |
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Blasmeister posted:I really don't understand where they're going I don't think WWE knows where they are going either, that's why they're being very vague about things. HHH says he will address "the controversy" but doesn't really spell it out. The WWE.com article might be where they think they're heading now, but we'll see what happens on Raw.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:40 |
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projecthalaxy posted:I want Bully/Bubba Ray to come back (continue coming back) and have brutal hoss offs with Ryback and Wyatt. I also want Roman Reigns to get trapped in a canvas bag. Yeah, I was surprised how much I liked seeing Bubba face to face with Harper and Wyatt.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:44 |
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Authorman posted:What the hell is roman Nepotistic charity case. 100% only there because his cousin. Erik Watts.
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Blasmeister posted:Plus, faking out that they're going to make good on their lovely booking then plow on with their normal storyline anyway is just going to antagonise the live fans even further. As said, they haven't decided where they're going, only that they need to say something to keep their options open. It's not so much antagonizing the fans as keeping that tiny sliver of hope that they'll do the right thing* alive. *Note that Vince's idea of the right thing runs 100% contrary to that of sane human beings.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:52 |
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I find it so weird that they brought nepotism into the question with that interview, but they're still pushing along with him as a face. Does/did anyone actually think the Reigns thing is nepotism? It's not that weird to be a second generation guy in WWE and guys like Cody and Bray are in pretty iffy spots despite being good.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:53 |
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Authorman posted:I know people keep saying Roman is a power dude who should keep doing power moves, but is he actually in any way a power dude? I mean the triple powerbomb which was his big finisher thing during the shield era was dean and seth doing all the lifting and roman hoverhanding the guy as he falls. The samoan drop features no lifting, just a guy jumping and roman falling. The more I think about it, Roman's hernia could be a severe limit on his long-term potential. I'm trying to think of big power moves that don't require some core lifting and there's... a powerslam? Maybe a spinning spinebuster where you can take advantage of your opponent's momentum? He could start doing the Rock Bottom!
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:54 |
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Endless Mike posted:Rollins is being booked as a cowardly heel who needs stooges to keep him safe. For as great as he's doing in that role, it's exactly NOT the kind of character that should be used as an enforcer. i kind of hate his cowardly heel character now because it makes no freaking sense for a cowardly chickenshit heel to do super-risky high spots!!!
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 19:58 |
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Alain Post posted:i kind of hate his cowardly heel character now because it makes no freaking sense for a cowardly chickenshit heel to do super-risky high spots!!! He seems less like a coward and more of an opportunist dick that cheats because he can.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 20:02 |
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Lumbermouth posted:The more I think about it, Roman's hernia could be a severe limit on his long-term potential. I'm trying to think of big power moves that don't require some core lifting and there's... a powerslam? Maybe a spinning spinebuster where you can take advantage of your opponent's momentum? Yeah, when I say he should be doing power moves, I don't necessarily mean he needs to be doing gorilla presses here. More high-impact brawler moves. Rocky's spinebuster just requires the other guy to jump with you, really. HHH used to use an atomic drop in the same vein and he had his weird high-knee move too. Austin had..the Thesz press? I don't know, there has to be stuff he can pull off which isn't as weird as that Romanarana. Or just some credible brawling for transitions.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 20:05 |
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Authorman posted:I know people keep saying Roman is a power dude who should keep doing power moves, but is he actually in any way a power dude? I mean the triple powerbomb which was his big finisher thing during the shield era was dean and seth doing all the lifting and roman hoverhanding the guy as he falls. The samoan drop features no lifting, just a guy jumping and roman falling. I mean, come on, he's got muscles and stuff
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 20:06 |
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The Bee posted:He seems less like a coward and more of an opportunist dick that cheats because he can. yeah, it's cool when he cheats or has J&J interfere. that self-destructive high-spot offense where you sell your own risky moves is like, total Jeff Hardy stuff though, and Jeff Hardy is one of the best WWE faces of the last 15 years. he works better as a face, is what I'm saying.
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# ? Jan 30, 2015 20:07 |
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just get lawler to teach him how to throw a worked punch and he'll be good
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