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Wade Wilson posted:I don't understand how Morlun is still around. I thought he got eaten years ago when The Other happened. Apparently they can respawn via cloning. Yes, that's right, cloning. 
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TwoPair posted:Too Many Spider-Men. It takes a lot to save the day Like spider versions of Gwen and May A black teen swinging through New York A scoop of clones and a guy who's pork And you got Too Many Webs! (Too Many Webs!) Too Many Webs! (Too Many Webs!) Too Many Webs! (Too Many Webs!) Too Many Webs! (Too Many Webs!)
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Jan 29, 2015 16:03
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Gavok posted:It takes a lot to save the day Wait, wouldn't that make Morlun.... oh dear.
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Jan 29, 2015 16:10
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Yvonmukluk posted:Apparently they can respawn via cloning. So Morlun is a cylon?
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Jan 29, 2015 16:12
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Wade Wilson posted:I don't understand how Morlun is still around. I thought he got eaten years ago when The Other happened. Well, as good a time as any to do a recap. Originally he was a sort of mystical villain dude from Earth (regular 616 Earth, I mean) who had his eye on Spider-Man because draining animal-totem-people of their life force was his favourite snack. On the way to New York (by boat, not interdimensional portal) he was using an eagle-powered German superhero to keep him going. He winds up going after Spider-Man but because Spider-Man got his powers from a radioactive spider, Pete had the brilliant idea of going to a nuclear power plant and injecting his veins with radioactive material. So instead of being a "pure source" of delicious spidery goodness, he was horribly tainted with artificial sweeteners and additives, which made Morlun wither into a husk. Then he got shot by his long-suffering human personal assistant/slave, and that was that. Then he came back, because a true villain never dies, when the Other storyline was meandering along and in need of something interesting to happen before it all got retconned away. So he showed up, menaced briefly, and then died again (as you mentioned). Even so he was still the same sort of magic dude that he had been before, so that was a reasonable enough explanation for why he'd come back. Magic is as magic does, there must always be a dude eating animal-themed superheroes I guess. It wasn't until the Spider-Verse thing started that Slott completely rewrote Morlun into being part of an interdimensional family of big game hunters who rule their homeworld ("Earth 0", really?) and only eat Spider-Men because reasons. Also all their clone bodies are made using the same sort of technology that made Ben Reilly because reasons. I don't mind Slott's writing usually, at least for the most part, and there have been moments in Spider-Verse I've liked... but the Morlun (and family) stuff has been pretty craptacular.
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Jan 29, 2015 16:26
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Lurdiak posted:Wait, wouldn't that make Morlun.... oh dear. Mechanical Organic Robots Lurking Under Nightfall.
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Jan 29, 2015 16:41
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All the best bits of Spider-Verse are the bits that have nothing to do with the Inheritors. Except for the Newspaper Comic section. That was gold.
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Jan 29, 2015 16:58
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Lurdiak posted:Wait, wouldn't that make Morlun.... oh dear. Nah, that's Dan Slott.
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Jan 29, 2015 23:32
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WickedHate posted:Nah, that's Dan Slott. I can see the resemblence.
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Jan 30, 2015 06:24
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Fuego Fish posted:Well, as good a time as any to do a recap. He also came back to try and eat Black Panther.
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Yvonmukluk posted:He also came back to try and eat Black Panther. He got Man-Ape, but he's fine now.
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Jan 30, 2015 19:39
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So... what are the Inheritors supposed to inherit?
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Soonmot posted:So... what are the Inheritors supposed to inherit? The Parker Luck, judging by how many times they're getting chumped in this crossover.
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Fuego Fish posted:The Parker Luck, judging by how many times they're getting chumped in this crossover. What, you mean your Big Bad shouldn't be getting fooled by his supposed concubine going "Oooh, I have a tummyache!"?
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Jan 31, 2015 00:25
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Fuego Fish posted:The Parker Luck, judging by how many times they're getting chumped in this crossover. I like how the difference between when they have and don't have their plot armour is so blatantly obvious. With: Can take out Leopardon with little to no effort. Without: Gets chumped by the Other in a single panel. With: Can incapcitate the Other, again in a single panel. Without: Gets gloriously smacked about by the Punisher with a baseball bat (and HATE, of course). Christ, why did anyone think Dan Slott was a good idea as a writer for the flagship chatracter again?
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Jan 31, 2015 01:16
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Yvonmukluk posted:I like how the difference between when they have and don't have their plot armour is so blatantly obvious. Probably the person who looks at sales figures. We may not like it, but spider-man hasn't stopped selling or anything.
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Jan 31, 2015 01:22
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Senor Candle posted:Probably the person who looks at sales figures. We may not like it, but spider-man hasn't stopped selling or anything. This would be true for literally any writer.
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Jan 31, 2015 01:23
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If OMD and OMiT didn't kill Spider-Man sales I don't think Slott has anything to worry about.
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Jan 31, 2015 01:26
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The only thing Slott is worried about is losing face when somebody else gets to captain the unsinkable ship and the numbers stay the same instead of drop off.
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Jan 31, 2015 02:27
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One of the main reasons he's stayed on the book so long is that most people eventually get creatively frustrated having to write about the same guy for so long within so many set in stone parameters, but he just likes being "the guy who writes spider-man" so much he doesn't give a poo poo.
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Jan 31, 2015 03:39
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Probably why Bendis loves/loved USM so much, he can be the guy that writes Spidey, but without most of those rules. Hell, he somehow managed to make 'Gwen Stacy dates Peter Parker' seem out of character.
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Jan 31, 2015 04:29
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I saw this panel years ago (I think this was a batman comic) and some weedly guy is in prison/arkham and a zombie looking guy spits in his lunch. Weedy guy does a great spiel about how zombie guy has to trade lunches with him or he'll send him one of his kids fingers for the next ten years - does anybody know what I'm on about or was this just a dream?
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Jan 31, 2015 18:14
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Hulk Smash! posted:
This can be said as cool-you don't get more 'underdog' than Spider-Man vs even a former Herald of Galactus. It's also cited as an example of 'author's favourite wins' or something like that-since SPider-Man won that battle, which can be rightly said to be insane. Now, they did try to 'explain' it even then. He wasn't here for anything but a hot dog, so he wasn't fighting.
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Jan 31, 2015 21:05
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Well, it wasn't just Spidey punching the guy. He lured him into a building undergoing explosive demolition, had him run over by a subway train, and blew up a gas station he was in. Still, yeah, it's a "most popular character wins" moment for sure.
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Jan 31, 2015 22:00
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Old school Spidey defeated Dr. Doom, the entire X-men roster, and the FF. I'm not sure why defeating Fire..lord? is seen as excessive, unless you're going by late 80s and onwards Spidey power levels, which kept getting nerfed to the point that he fought Captain America one time and wasn't able to land a single punch. My favorite thing about that fight is that the Avengers showed up afterwards and Spidey was like WHERE WERE YOU ASSHOLES!?!?!
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Lurdiak posted:Old school Spidey defeated Dr. Doom, the entire X-men roster, and the FF. I'm not sure why defeating Fire..lord? is seen as excessive, Firelord is a former Herald of Galactus, so he's got access to the Power Cosmic and theoretically is much stronger than Doom/X-Men/the FF. It's like Spidey beating Silver Surfer or whatever.
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Or Black Panther putting the Silver Surfer in a submission hold?
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Majuju posted:Firelord is a former Herald of Galactus, so he's got access to the Power Cosmic and theoretically is much stronger than Doom/X-Men/the FF. It's like Spidey beating Silver Surfer or whatever. Firelord and all the other heralds that came after Surfer have significantly less access to The Power Cosmic by design as Galactic didn't/doesn't trust them after Surfer's betrayal. They have even less then that once de-heralded. Fact is all heralds except Silver Surfer are chumps even with The Power Cosmic and Spidey beat the chumpiest of them by the skin of his teeth.
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Arctic Baldwin posted:Or Black Panther putting the Silver Surfer in a submission hold? This is badass, someone post this e: I found it but not sure on the source  also the guy who wrote it had this to say: quote:Read the scene again and this time pay attention. The Surfer allowed the Panther to "restrain" him in the hope of finding out what the FF was up to. A panel later, the Surfer's assistant blasts the Panther unconscious. The Surfer is irritated because he wanted the Panther to talk, which he thought he might do if the Panther believed he had the upper hand. Most of the people who bitch about this have only seen a scan of one page, or have poor reading comprehension skills. Majuju fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Feb 1, 2015 |
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Feb 1, 2015 05:25
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The art conveys the scene as Surfer struggling to get free and needing to be rescued by his ally, though.
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And really, so does the writing because it's expecting the audience to be dumb as gently caress to believe what Panther's saying there, or even believe that he believes it and can be fooled by Surfer putting on a show.
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The black panther really is assuming a lot about the silver surfer's anatomy considering he's applying what's mostly a pain compliance hold (hammerlock) on someone that can take a punch from Galactus 
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Also, attempting to put a guy in that submission hold at all who can fire blasts of lasers out of his hands.
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Feb 1, 2015 12:26
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Or teleport, or have his skin become sun-level hot, or intangible, or radiation/lava/mountain dew, or any other bullshit the writer feels the Power Cosmic can do.
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Feb 1, 2015 14:20
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Fraction later had him straight-up shapeshift in Defenders (not sure if he'd done it before), so it's not like he couldn't just make his arm formless or something.
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If you cut the Silver Surfer in half would he be filled with guts, more silver, or cosmic power like Captain Atom or something?
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Feb 1, 2015 23:10
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The latter. I think he bleeds Kirby dots.
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goatface posted:The latter. I think he bleeds Kirby dots. Yup.  Marvel Zombies #3
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Chinaman7000 posted:If you cut the Silver Surfer in half would he be filled with guts, more silver, or cosmic power like Captain Atom or something?
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In Ruins everything sucks because Warren Ellis is an immature shithead wherever capes are concerned.
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