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this_is_hard posted:There's about a million reasons why: actors aren't going to sign away their entire careers to a 15-season long HBO show, budgetary concerns, viewership concerns, actors will outpace their characters ages, etc etc etc. And even aside from all this, the cat is already out of the bag at this point. It might have been worth it to do 2 seasons per book back at the beginning, but all we really have left is a bunch of storylines which already meander around for GRRM's stupid "Mereneese Knot". Sansa, Brienne and Bran are already caught up and a bunch of the other characters have like half a book or less of material left to go. After the breakneck pace of the past 4 seasons, nobody is going to want to watch 3 seasons of Tyrion sailing on a river barge or Dany making GBS threads in a field for an entire season or whatever. They sure as hell don't want Dorne and Iron Islands storylines to supplant the entire show.
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Steve2911 posted:I'm re-reading ADWD now and I still don't get why people dislike Penny. She doesn't do much other than cry and sulk. Granted it's completely justified but that doesn't make her character interesting or necessary to the story.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:02
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Solice Kirsk posted:Yeah, I'm hoping it will be like a Jorah/Tyrion buddy cop season. Not gonna lie, that sounds really appealing.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:03
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I'm sure there are also Lord of the Rings fans that don't get why some people hate Tom Bombadil.
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Steve2911 posted:I'm re-reading ADWD now and I still don't get why people dislike Penny. I have nothing against her character, and I think she adds something to Tyrion's development. But in the moment of reading the books, everything involving her was, in my mind, just another barrier between Tyrion and Dany finally getting together.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:06
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I wonder if they're gonna have Varys disappear for most of the season so he can surprise-murder Kevan. I'd much rather have him hanging around with Dany and Tyrion the whole season.
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Max posted:I have nothing against her character, and I think she adds something to Tyrion's development. But in the moment of reading the books, everything involving her was, in my mind, just another barrier between Tyrion and Dany finally getting together. She just happens to be around when other barriers are created though. I do hope she winds up having a more direct impact, but reading Tyrion's POV is more enjoyable when he's viewing her. I'm not even sure why.
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I've completely forgotten exactly why Jorah was okay with her tagging along while he was kidnapping Tyrion.
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Steve2911 posted:She just happens to be around when other barriers are created though. Yeah, I mean, she's just one more thing really, and doesn't actually get in the way. It's just that by the point she's introduced, I feel like the story was dragging on his end.
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Steve2911 posted:I'm re-reading ADWD now and I still don't get why people dislike Penny. Also, he seems to forget that gardening includes pruning. But that's a different matter altogether.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:36
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That trailer has me more excited for this season than any season so far. It's pretty clear from all the fat that trailer indicates they are cutting, and with the show runners stated desire to wrap it all up in season 7, that season 5 marks the beginning of the end game for the series and I could not be happier. We are finally going to get an end of some kind to this story and like other posters have said there is a pretty solid chance GRRM will never finish the books at this rate.
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Steve2911 posted:I'm re-reading ADWD now and I still don't get why people dislike Penny. It's the wait. The time between book 4 and 5 was way too long for the amount of plot progression which occurred within them. I doubt many people would complain about all the word building if we were well on our way to the home stretch of the story, but as it stands now we still haven't even gotten Danny off of Essos (after several books mentioning that she is going East to the Shadow before she even gets to Westeros).
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Jan 30, 2015 23:09
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Not sure if this is old news but they gave up and threw an official version of the trailer up on Facebook already.
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threeagainstfour posted:That trailer has me more excited for this season than any season so far. It's pretty clear from all the fat that trailer indicates they are cutting, and with the show runners stated desire to wrap it all up in season 7, that season 5 marks the beginning of the end game for the series and I could not be happier. We are finally going to get an end of some kind to this story and like other posters have said there is a pretty solid chance GRRM will never finish the books at this rate. Yeah, I feel the same way. The first few seasons I wanted to see how well they'd adapt the story. (And while I've had a few complaints, I can't imagine a better version.) Now I'm in it for the story, since the show is already getting ahead of the books. It's fantastic.
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Really looking forward to Melisandre's storyline this season.
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The show is going to end with an explanation that all magic on Planetos is fueled by the energy of war and bloodshed in an alternate universe version of itself - Earth. When Samwell reaches the whitewalker capital, they send him through a portal to Germany to attempt to bring an end to World War 1 and thereby deprive the dragons of their fuel. The next scene is of several years later, 1921, when Sam is exchanging letters with Robert H. Goddard about liquid-fueled rocketry, and planning to one day go into outer space in the hopes of finding a way back home.
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MrBims posted:The show is going to end with an explanation that all magic on Planetos is fueled by the energy of war and bloodshed in an alternate universe version of itself - Earth. When Samwell reaches the whitewalker capital, they send him through a portal to Germany to attempt to bring an end to World War 1 and thereby deprive the dragons of their fuel. The next scene is of several years later, 1921, when Sam is exchanging letters with Robert H. Goddard about liquid-fueled rocketry, and planning to one day go into outer space in the hopes of finding a way back home. Turns out Westeros is just another level of the Dark Tower. Roland + Lady of Shadows = Jake
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Steve2911 posted:Not sure if this is old news but they gave up and threw an official version of the trailer up on Facebook already. They also dumped a bunch of promotional stills.
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Who were the dudes in the gold masks? Sons of the Harpy? Also, man, when I heard the line "Strip away the gold..." I was really hoping the follow-up would've been "THE BITTER STEEL" Let's get some Golden Company up in this bitch.
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Nerd Grenade posted:http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/30/george-rr-martin-the-winds-of-winter-publication I don't think the book will come out this year either, but I don't see why the publisher not having it on its list for 2015 would mean anything.
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Also, it looks like they're going the straight up Grey Worm fucks Missandei route, which seems pretty stupid to me, but it's not someone saying slightly different words than they did in the book so I guess it's fine.
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Beeez posted:Also, it looks like they're going the straight up Grey Worm fucks Missandei route, which seems pretty stupid to me, but it's not someone saying slightly different words than they did in the book so I guess it's fine. uh, how Is he gonna approach the missing-body-parts issue like Jaime did or what?
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I still think they're doing that relationship so that she'll cry over him after the show has the Sons of the Harpy kill him. They're definitely gonna have the Sons kill a familiar character, I think. Lycus fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Jan 31, 2015 |
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loquacius posted:uh, how Maybe they can scissor each other...or maybe there's some kinda magic viagra in Essos.
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Hi spoiler thread. I decided shortly before Season 4 started last year that I wanted to read the books. My original plan wasn't to read ahead of the show, but after season 4 ended and I read the final chapters of Storm of Swords (John's election & the Stoneheart epilogue), I decided there was no way I was waiting, and as of last night I finished Dance with Dragons for the first time, about 30 minutes before attending one of the IMAX events. I've spent some time now reading through this thread and the big wiki and feel totally inundated with things, but I just want to say I'm excited to join the ranks in this thread.   I'm fairly disappointed to read the seemingly accepted rumor that a lot of the Greyjoy story won't be making it in this season; I was really, really looking forward to meeting Euron and Victarion and seeing the Kingsmoot go down.
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Yeah, they're responding to the main flaw of Feast/Dance -- "we're replacing all those dead characters you loved with these new ones you don't give a poo poo about" -- by just cutting most of them out, meaning that they're gonna get all caught up with at least some storylines by the end of this season No Greyjoys, no Aegon, no Quentyn, etc
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Its more than a rumor, really. They weren't cast, and I think one of the showrunners came out and said , "yeah, we're not gonna do most of the Greyjoy stuff.
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Beeez posted:Also, it looks like they're going the straight up Grey Worm fucks Missandei route, which seems pretty stupid to me, but it's not someone saying slightly different words than they did in the book so I guess it's fine. It looks like he's just lying there and she kisses him. The books mention some of the Unsullied going to brothels and just paying women to lie next to them so I don't think it's necessarily a huge departure. They still have some kind of longing for human contact. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Stalwart_Shield If he does get offed though, darn. Being Dany's guardian is a tough gig. Whatever happened to Kovarro anyways?
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colonel_korn posted:It looks like he's just lying there and she kisses him. The books mention some of the Unsullied going to brothels and just paying women to lie next to them so I don't think it's necessarily a huge departure. They still have some kind of longing for human contact. They both appear to be naked under a sheet, though. But yeah, I guess it's possible that's all that's happening even though it has all the TV visual shorthand for "These two are boning up a storm".
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enraged_camel posted:You know, I really don't understand why they keep cutting stuff. Because they are adapting A Feast For Crows. I would cut stuff to if I was adapting that book.
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Beeez posted:They both appear to be naked under a sheet, though.  
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Alhazred posted:Because they are adapting A Feast For Crows. I would cut stuff to if I was adapting that book. A highborn maid of three and ten, with a fair face and-- 
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People are expressing way too much confusion over this Grey Worm stuff.
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Alhazred posted:Because they are adapting A Feast For Crows. I would cut stuff to if I was adapting that book. I'm sure the editor wishes they had the same power.
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Alright, my bad. Lycus posted:People are expressing way too much confusion over this Grey Worm stuff. A person who lost their balls as a child wouldn't have a working penis in adulthood, it's potentially implying a sexual relationship between him and Missandei. If that really is the route they go, it doesn't make sense.
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From that still above, it almost looks like there's some bruising on Grey Worm's face, and Missandei may very well just be tending to him after an injury, and in the process showing some additional compassion since they've already planted the seed for that relationship existing. I don't think the brief second that we see is enough to assume anything sexual at all and agree, is probably being over-thought.
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you can have sex without a penis
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Beeez posted:Alright, my bad.
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Lycus posted:Ask your parents. I mentioned the scissoring option already. Must you be so defensive of every dumb aspect of the show?
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I could go for Sansa as a non-undead Stoneheart but I doubt it'll actually happen. And yeah, one of the people she'd be getting revenge on is Littlefinger but I don't think she knows that yet.
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