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Reached for comment, the city secretary had this to say: "'Do nine men interpret?' 'Nine men,' I nod." It's a little heartbreaking seeing Tazmily change like this.
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Leavemywife posted:Holy poo poo, there's a ton of extra stuff in this game if you take the time to go back and look around after some major plot point. Also wow did not expect to see you back so soon. Nice to have you back.
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In case anyone was wanting one, the  SPOILERS Mother 3 Handbook SPOILERS is back in stock at FanGamer. I've been using the free version on the translation site in the OP (also spoilers on that one) to make sure I don't miss stuff. I actually just bought a copy myself since it'd look cool (and gave me an excuse to buy more stuff from the site).Update maybe tomorrow? Part lazy, part Netflix binge, and part busy. I will finish this thing though no matter how slowly I update.
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Chapter 6 seems more like an interesting storytelling idea than anything else. But... I think this right here pays the whole thing off.
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CmdrKing posted:Chapter 6 seems more like an interesting storytelling idea than anything else. But... It's nice for a ghost of a loved one to give clear and precise instructions for once.
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Mega64 posted:In case anyone was wanting one, the drat YOU BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION! I need money! Now! So I can have the Franklin Badge with it! I don't need a kidney...right?
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Kemix posted:drat YOU BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION! I need money! Now! So I can have the Franklin Badge with it! I don't need a kidney...right? Looks like they're out of softcovers; Hardcovers are running $32, plus another $7 for the badge if you want it. I got a copy back when the translation first came out, and I have to say I was thrilled with the quality. The clay figurines of characters and enemies (calling back to the EarthBound player's guide) are worth the price of admission alone.
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Scoville posted:Looks like they're out of softcovers; Hardcovers are running $32, plus another $7 for the badge if you want it. I got a copy back when the translation first came out, and I have to say I was thrilled with the quality. The clay figurines of characters and enemies (calling back to the EarthBound player's guide) are worth the price of admission alone. Yeah, I can't wait to see how they do taking a shot at an EarthBound guide for the You Are Now EarthBound kickstarter.
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I got the hardcover version a couple days ago (along with a sweet-looking CT Gate Key keychain), and the quality is great. It also comes with an item/equipment chart that the free version doesn't have, so that'll be handy to have. Also, I'm gonna finally for real work on the next update now and get it out today.
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    Last time, we talked to people or something. Today, stuff is actually going to happen. I think you can actually handle the next few parts out of the suggested order, but I'm going to do them according to how the game to make things easier on my end. Besides, the Chimera Lab is a pretty interesting place, considering it's the place where all the animal hybrids are being made and all.   Keep watch for me, will ya? I'm gonna go inside and help look for some escaped monkeys.   This is the lobby. The Chimera Lab's pretty big, though at first we're limited to where we can go. Let's go ahead and talk to the people here.  Yes:  Okay, cool. You can get inside through the back of the mini-theater. The mini-theater's to the right of the entrance, in case you didn't know. Go in through there and change your clothes. It's good to have you on board!No: Well, it's great that you're so interested in our company's research, especially at such a young age. But please don't go behind the mini-theater's speakers to get inside the lab. When someone tells you not to do something, you're not supposed to do it. As for the rest...   THE CHIMERA THEATER IS CURRENTLY CLOSED. *whir* *click* This area is off-limits! And don't you dare try to find some other way inside! I have some special medicine here, not sold in any vending machines. Could I interest you in some? The Offense and Defense Sprays boost the target's offense/defense. Don't know how big an effect, but considering Lucas has Offense/Defense Up PSI already and can learn versions that boost all party members in one turn, it's not really worth investing the money in. The Bufferizer and Wimperizer make an enemy stronger and weaker respectively. The other thing they do is increase and decrease the EXP you gain. A good leveling strategy is buying a Bufferizer, look around for a Black Beanling, and buff it before killing it for huge amounts of EXP. I'm not going to bother actually doing all that, but the option's there if you're interested. Heh heh. If you ever need anything else, I'm your man. The vending machine has a weapon upgrade for Lucas and the usual consumables.   The women's bathroom just has ghosts appear, first one, then adding one each visit up to four, then back to one. Don't ask me why, please.  The other bathroom has a frog, ever faithful to its duties.  Anyway, to progress, we go behind this curtain here.  You're in the way, so go on, get outta here. And don't you even dare think about checking inside the lockers and putting on any pig masks you find.We can't progress until we put pig masks on, and once we do so, we can't leave the facility.   So let's do so.  Where do you think you're going?! You're on the job!While we can't leave, we have free reign of the facility.    And this place is big. There's some loot and quite a few NPCs roaming around, but there's also a lot of cool flavor text. I'll try to give the more interesting ones. For instance, if we check one of the bookcases in this room... "Ultimate Chimera Report" Removal of this report from laboratory premises is forbidden. Let's explore, then.  You guys are part-timers, right? Then get looking, too! Some monkeys've gone missing! They should be hiding somewhere in the lab. There's two of 'em! Scour every last inch of the place!The monkeys are hiding in the northwestern most room on the second floor, but we're in no rush.  They are SO gonna get reconstructed if I get my hands on 'em!  There's a break room with nothing interesting besides a cola vending machine and a bitter pigmask, and then there's this room that has a conveyer belt to ride if you feel like doing so.   This place has prices for certain chimeras.  "Should the Ultimate Chimera escape from its cage, seal all entrances and exits immediately. In the unlikely event that it gets outside, use full force to feign ignorance and pretend nothing happened. In the event that the Ultimate Chimera is seen by civilians," ............... The rest has been erased and is unreadable.  We'll find out what this creature is next update.  There's an elevator that leads to this room on the third floor. If you get to this room from the other way, that pigmask will be on the other side of the glass wall. Don't ask me why for that either.  There's several shelves like this, but there's nothing we can do about them for now.  In the large western room on the first floor, there's this massive operating table complete with disturbing machines and tools. It's pretty disturbing once you imagine these machines being used to carve apart ordinary animals to create chimeras.   And here's where they store many of their specimens. There's a reason we haven't seen any Dragos since the time skip.  Of course we're reading it. quote:"My Secret Life, chapter three." (Story from the previous chapter.) In Earthbound, there's a house for sale in Onett for $7500. It's quite expensive at the beginning of the game, but later on it's chump change. Once you buy it, you get this run-down shack with missing walls and nothing of value. In fact, the only thing notable about it is...the same exact story we just read. So this is a nice little easter egg referencing another hidden, easy-to-miss detail from Earthbound. Well, it would be, but...  See, this book is also in Earthbound, and is part of the plot. In that case, Ness and friends find a race called the Tenda. They need the Tenda's help to progress towards their goals, but the Tenda are all too shy to talk, except one Tenda who had read this book to overcome his shyness. This being Earthbound, to progress we need to go to Onett library, check out the book, and give it to the Tenda chief so that the other Tendas can overcome their shyness. One reference to Earthbound is an easter egg, but two in the same room?  Anyway, there's also a hot spring here, and this may be the first one that actually has the right number of syllables for a haiku.  It also has a cool-looking mural. Now that I think about it, maybe it's a sort of callback to Mother 1?  There's a magic butterfly under that microscope.  I'm not going to guess. Sorry.  Scamp's parrot is also here for some reason.  And then... And then... And then... Those stairs there take you to the first floor... And then... there's an elevator in that room over there, with the door open... I think? Huh?? Now I'm all confused again... But I think that's probably right. This room in the western side of the second floor has the skeletons of many different enemies and creatures we've seen.  "Runner-up"  (Even when stuffed, a frog is still a frog.)  I'm glad this sign supports the choices I make in life.    South of the room is this place. I wouldn't be surprised if you get the "can't eat food" debuff from staying in here too long.  North of the skeleton room, we have the preserved remains of many enemies we've encountered thus far. And north of there...   I like that Mother 3 isn't afraid to make you think of just how messed up the process is in actually making these chimeras. It's easy to handwave away as "stuff that happens in video games," but this entire process is horrifying and warped. It's disturbing stuff. Also, I think we found the monkeys.   Well, so much for that.    Meanwhile, have this boss encounter.   The guide says you can lose to this guy and still be fine, but screw that, we're beating this guy.  At any rate, the Almost-Mecha Lion is very strong, so buffs and debuffs are as important as ever. Lucas will want to use PK Flash until it starts crying, and then start using Defense/Offense Up and regular Shields.  Offense Up is particularly important since the Almost-Mecha Lion can use war cries to lower offense.    It has more tricks up its sleeve, like inflicting poison and breathing fire for good damage.  Tougher than the usual boss fight, but not too bad if you keep healed and buffed.  Apparently it didn't take enough of a beating, at least until a Clayman jumps in to save the day.   Just the one now. "The" one...? You mean the red one with the huge mouth...? ...Yeah. That thing means serious trouble. Just standing here won't solve anything. For now, let's hurry and seal the exits. Watch yourselves, guys! Hey, cute part-timer. There's actually one more that's still lurking around here somewhere... One that's WAY more dangerous than that one just now... If, while looking for the monkeys, you happen to see a red thing with a gigantic mouth...GET THE HECK OUT OF THERE! Listen. Pay close attention, now... Got that? I've warned you. And, while I'm warning you like this, I should add that it'd be even more dangerous not to take the time out to talk with that frog. All right! Be careful, now!Yeah, that Pigmask is not kidding. You definitely want to save your game at this point.   Once you enter here, you'll hear a cacophany of pigmask screams with the occasional massive roar. You want to hear this, because if actual music plays you. are. hosed.    I knew all about that, and yet...Man, I'm so stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Oww.So, what exactly is this creature the Pigmasks are so afraid of?  Meet the Ultimate Chimera.  If it reaches you, it's instant Game Over. It's too powerful to even try and fight. Fun Fact: This guy's a stage hazard in the Mother 3 stage in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.  You want to hide until you're able to sneak away from it. Regular music plays when you're in the same area as it, while otherwise you get the Pigmask screams.  And there's an elevator in this room. And to the west is the...oppressing room...? Opportunity room...? You know, the room where they do surgery. Actually, come to think of it, those monkeys fled into the basement earlier... But how DO you get to the basement?So we have our next destination at least.  Also, there's a man hiding in a trash can.  Not just any man, though. Dr. Andonuts is a pretty major character in Earthbound, being a great aid to Ness and friends throughout their adventures. But is this the same Dr. Andonuts as from Earthbound?  I'm being forced to conduct various sorts of research by a certain man. Currently, though, I'm trying to conceal myself for certain reasons. I'm a bit occupied at the moment. Could you come back at a better time?And if you try to talk to him again... No problem here. No problem here. ...Just leave it at that, would you?Andonuts isn't very willing to help us out right now, so I guess we need to find the monkeys ourselves.  That red one'll stand right outside the room if you start to panic... But I bet you could lure it into a trap if you used that to your advantage. I'm so smart! I can't believe how smart I am! ...Why didn't I run after them, you ask? ...Ow... Oww, oww... M-my stomach, it pains me so. Yeah, that Ultimate Chimera or Kimura or whatever it's called... I'd make quick work of it, if only it weren't for my aching stomach... Like they say, you can't fight on an aching stomach. So I leave the rest to you! See ya! Pigmask to the end. Anyway, we now have access to the basement area, so let's find those monkeys already.  But you should probably get out of this building as fast as you can. We're done for now... I put some rice balls in the freezer room, but they wound up frozen solid. I should've eaten them sooner... At the end of the basement area, we find the monkeys again.  And then we lose the monkeys again.  Oh, man. This is too much for me to handle... If that red one's out there, I'm just gonna have to wait it out in the freezer room...  We just have to follow the monkeys now to the other side of the hall.  And there we go!    ...Oh poo poo.     In other words, if we set the power switch on its back to "OFF", it will stop!      There's a large button on its back! You need to press it! Come, now! Be courageous!        Thank you, lad. And monkey. I think I'll use this opportunity to leave the military and devote my life to making all living things happy. Oh...  I-I'm sorry! I was merely joking about the bait thing! It's a simple misunderstanding! You have it all wrong!!   On the bright side, after all that, Salsa has joined the party!   Next time, we'll get to work on pulling that needle! 
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That ostrich/elephant hybrid panicking at the top of the screen is such a cool little detail.
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You know how if you're way more powerful than the enemy, you just get that flash and YOU WIN! instead of a fight? Yeah, the Ultimate Chimera gets to do that to the party.
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The Chimera's roar is goddamned terrifying to me. I first played this game years upon years ago, and I can still remember that thing's shrieks of rage as it tears Pigmasks into something resembling wet tissue paper. Goddamn, this game is amazing. 
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Yeah, the Chimera Lab (and the various chimeras in general) are probably one of the most creepy and disturbing plot elements in this game. It's like something from a Resident Evil game (complete with the signature incompetence of those running the place) except that the motives behind the two are wildly different. Umbrella just wanted to make shitloads of money/rule the world. The Pigmasks? They're doing this because whoever is running the organization apparently thinks normal animals are lame and boring, so why not jazz 'em up a bit with a bit of applied science? As far as instilling a feeling of horror goes, Umbrella ain't got poo poo on the Pigmasks. 
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The lab music doesn't always play when the ultimate chimera is in the same room as you. It's actually playing pretty often in this section. I think the sound effects do at least happen when he's a room away, I think. There's not really any trick to avoiding it other than immediately running to the nearest room if you spot it and wait for it to "pass".
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I always wondered what that thing was in Brawl. I never thought it'd be that messed up.
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W.T. Fits posted:Yeah, the Chimera Lab (and the various chimeras in general) are probably one of the most creepy and disturbing plot elements in this game. It's like something from a Resident Evil game (complete with the signature incompetence of those running the place) except that the motives behind the two are wildly different. Umbrella just wanted to make shitloads of money/rule the world. The Pigmasks? They're doing this because whoever is running the organization apparently thinks normal animals are lame and boring, so why not jazz 'em up a bit with a bit of applied science?
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I love that the Ultimate Chimera's body is almost entirely its mouth. There's no room for a stomach, so you can tell it's not even designed to eat you - just rip you to shreds.
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John Liver posted:I love that the Ultimate Chimera's body is almost entirely its mouth. There's no room for a stomach, so you can tell it's not even designed to eat you - just rip you to shreds. Something tells me that the Pigmasks don't really know what they designed the Ultimate Chimera "for". It's entirely likely that they threw a bunch of poo poo together and somehow ended up with what we got, which seems to be exactly what they have been doing with all the other chimeras. Still, design-wise, the Ultimate Chimera is very interesting, no doubt. Despite being bright pink with a little bird on its head, it's still probably one of the more terrifying-looking monsters in this game, up to and including he Horseantula, which I personally would have expected in Silent Hill before I saw it in a Nintendo RPG.
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Though, when you discover that bird's function, it becomes incredibly terrifying. It doesn't look horrifying, no, but it's only there to revive the monster if you should figure out how to stop it. That bird has no idea the destruction it can wrought.
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Leavemywife posted:Though, when you discover that bird's function, it becomes incredibly terrifying. It doesn't look horrifying, no, but it's only there to revive the monster if you should figure out how to stop it. I'm sure it knows full well. Birds are dicks.
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Oxxidation posted:I'm sure it knows full well. Birds are dicks. I'm shocked there isn't a TVtropes page about that. Every game that has a bird is a game with a horrible monster.
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FeyerbrandX posted:I'm shocked there isn't a TVtropes page about that. They're covered here.
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I like that the game's not afraid to point you at the save frogs. They have all been so adorable to talk to.
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Yeah, I wasn't big on the save frogs when I first played Mother 3 because I did so in the original Japanese (which I do not speak) and the frogs were a departure from the phones on Mother and EarthBound. Seeing them here shows me what I missed.
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Y-Hat posted:It's also a nice touch that a lot of the Pigmasks are kinda dumb. It softens the blow from the fact that they're doing all this horrible crap to animals. Yeah its kind of weird but all the Pigmasks in the labs don't really come off as evil despite doing wretched stuff. They just sound like normal dudes working at their day job, which just happens to be mutilating cute animals for the heck of it 
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Internet Kraken posted:Yeah its kind of weird but all the Pigmasks in the labs don't really come off as evil despite doing wretched stuff. They just sound like normal dudeds working at their day job, which just happens to be mutilating cute animals for the heck of it Ah yes. The classic banality of evil.
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A bunch of fat dudes who wreak all manner of soul-shattering atrocities upon the world because it pays the bills. They also make pig noises. The fact that they surrender so quickly once you start kicking them in the face is telling, though. 
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:A bunch of fat dudes who wreak all manner of soul-shattering atrocities upon the world because it pays the bills. They also make pig noises. I think that's just general mook incompetence. With a smart guy leading them they can do some real damage like burning down a forest and changing the meta of how a town functions and their people interact with each other. Without that... It's just monkeys outsmarting them. Always and forever.
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They're barely capable of following orders as it is. I'd say it'd take about 4 youthful spirits to tear down this operation, max.
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Internet Kraken posted:Yeah its kind of weird but all the Pigmasks in the labs don't really come off as evil despite doing wretched stuff. They just sound like normal dudes working at their day job, which just happens to be mutilating cute animals for the heck of it "Dammit, Parker! I wanted four puppies kicked instead of three! You're fired!"
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Variant_Eris posted:"Dammit, Parker! I wanted four puppies kicked instead of three! You're fired!" When you're actively going against them they seem competent, evil and ruthless. Then you infiltrate their ranks and find out they're as dysfunctional/wacky as everyone else in the world and it sort of takes them down a few notches while maintaining them as Villianous forces. It's just that the true evil's the leaders at the top (Fassad for example) while the rest are rank and file people getting paid. Reminds me of the famous Milgram Experiment, only the Pigmasks are entirely too lackadaisical about their job.
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EponymousMrYar posted:"Now take off your mask so I know which one is Parker. What do you mean it's stuck? You! Is your helmet stuck? It is? What do you mean everyone's helmets are stuck!? Mine is... Is stuck. FINE! Parker get your porker down to R&D and tell them to figure out how to get our masks unstuck! Yes you can kick a puppy on your way down but do not, under any circumstances, let me catch you slacking on your quota again!" This was cute, and I like to imagine that this would be the moment for that one Pigmask to shine - the one who always takes off his mask to hang it on the hook in the bathroom. 
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Internet Kraken posted:Yeah its kind of weird but all the Pigmasks in the labs don't really come off as evil despite doing wretched stuff. They just sound like normal dudes working at their day job, which just happens to be mutilating cute animals for the heck of it  I meant that as a joke, but I bet you that was actually Itoi's intent. The undertones in Mother 3 aren't nearly as subtle or positive as they were in its predecessor games, and that's a major reason why I like Earthbound more.
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Thank you for making this Let's Play, Mega64! This game is fantastic and your thoroughness in showing all the dialogue etc. is very much appreciated! 
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Hempuli posted:Thank you for making this Let's Play, Mega64! This game is fantastic and your thoroughness in showing all the dialogue etc. is very much appreciated!
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Nah, the one time I tried streaming Earthbound I realized I didn't really have anything new to say that tons of people haven't already noticed. I'm pretty sure I know what my next LP will be, but that will be awhile away since I still need to finish this one first.
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Mega64 posted:Nah, the one time I tried streaming Earthbound I realized I didn't really have anything new to say that tons of people haven't already noticed. I'm pretty sure I know what my next LP will be, but that will be awhile away since I still need to finish this one first. There is one that I looked at that I'd like to recommend. Another one of the episodic phone based Final Fantasy titles ala The After Years, Final Fantasy Dimensions.
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