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Which 970s do you have? Those aren't dangerous temperatures, and I wouldn't be worried about them, but they are higher than I'd expect for the MSI/ASUS custom coolers. One running hotter than the other is expected though; the bottom card is going to be blocking the airflow of the top card and there's not much you can do about it. If you have room you could try moving the bottom 970 to a lower slot, provided it's going to offer the same number of PCIe lanes.
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Desuwa posted:Which 970s do you have? Those aren't dangerous temperatures, and I wouldn't be worried about them, but they are higher than I'd expect for the MSI/ASUS custom coolers. One running hotter than the other is expected though; the bottom card is going to be blocking the airflow of the top card and there's not much you can do about it. I have the MSI Gaming ones. I removed some unused drive cages to improve flow from the front-panel intake fans, but it didn't really help: the cooler card is even cooler, but the hot one didn't change. The motherboard only has two x16 slots, but I'd need a longer SLI bridge anyway. I can add a side fan to my case and see if that helps.
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Feb 1, 2015 01:53
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Airflow would be the only solution other than just sucking it up and not worrying about it. With the fans off at idle, the heat from the lower 970 has nothing to do but be carried by convection straight into the upper card.
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eggyolk posted:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105036 What would you even use a Crossfired 3GB 280X for  Obviously not 1440p+ gaming if you're making GBS threads your pants over the Nvidia 970 thing. Yeah 90 days limited warranty and restocking fee, no thank You.
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Feb 1, 2015 01:55
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Yeah, I'll probably just learn to be comfortable with it. Under FurMark/Heaven load it doesn't crack 80C. Now if only I'd been smarter and bought a semi-fanless PSU, I'd be totally happy with my setup...
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Subjunctive posted:
On the MSI models the fan doesn't even kick on until it hits 60C to begin with by design. So long as at load you're not going over 80 you'll be fine. Hell, I blocked one of my fans accidentally and it managed to stay under 80C at full load. Didn't even break above 80% fanspeed.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:Having to RMA every single GPU seems like extraordinary bad luck on your side. GPU's aren't that unreliable that you should have to expect to RMA every one you own. I upgrade my GPU every 3-5 years and I honestly can't think of one other than this 6850 I'm now using that I haven't had to RMA. What's ironic about is it that I specifically buy high end power supplies and ram, motherboards, etc and things of that nature just SO I hopefully would keep parts around longer. I've been running a Seasonic X-series gold the last few years. So, good power as far as I remember. I'm really considering leaving the ATI/AMD camp after this last computer build. It's wonderful, x6 Phenom OC'd to 4ghz, watercooled, super silent, lots of RAID-10 SSDs, 24GB ram.. but man it's been a bit of a pain. Of course, it's lasted me awhile now. I'm also one of those guys who has RMA'd Xbox 360s at least 6 times, I think closer to 10. The last one that died was stolen out of my back seat and I just said gently caress it and gave up on them. My Nexus tablet died. My last Nexus phone died. My Chromecast shits itself all the time and I have to reset it (blaming plex). Now, on the flip side, I can't think of any of my harddrives ever dying and I have a LOT of harddrives. My appendix failed on me a few months ago too. I'm just a poisoned chalice. I've never had a card fail THIS bad though. It's crazy. If I enable the driver in Windows the entire screen just becomes artifacts. vty fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Feb 1, 2015 |
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Feb 1, 2015 03:33
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Jeez. Have you checked the electrical quality from your wall sockets? Voltage, brownouts, spikes, that kind of thing.
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BurritoJustice posted:I thought it was only the 290x that outpaces the 970 at super high resolutions, and only barely. TPU has the 970 > 290 on average at every resolution up to and including 4K, with the 290x winning by an average of 1% at 4K. Well I have a 290 with fully unlocked cores so yes. But I also play on triple 1440 monitors so a higher resolution than even 4k.
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Subjunctive posted:Yeah, I'll probably just learn to be comfortable with it. Under FurMark/Heaven load it doesn't crack 80C.
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Nvidia just can't catch a break. The guy behind the ENBSeries of graphical enhancements is saying the 970 does not have .5 GB of slow VRAM, it only has 3.5 GB of VRAM and uses system memory for the last .5 GB! Not verified by other people yet, nor is there is an explanation why the benchmarks on the .5 GB is faster than system RAM.
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Without knowing anything about that guy, except that he can't spell, I don't buy that. Just count how many fuckin' Vram chips are mounted on the board. They'd leave the last .5 completely unaddressable and use system ram and then not own up to it?
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Bleh Maestro posted:That Radeon video is Uhh really bad They've made a bunch of those over the years and they are all awful.
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Zero VGS posted:Without knowing anything about that guy, except that he can't spell, Not everyone's first language is English, to be fair to him. If you haven't heard of ENB Series, it's a set of shader mods and so on that inject into games to change their appearance. Very popular with certain game modders for adding effects beyond anything the game originally had. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Feb 1, 2015 |
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Feb 1, 2015 19:28
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Yaos posted:Nvidia just can't catch a break. The guy behind the ENBSeries of graphical enhancements is saying the 970 does not have .5 GB of slow VRAM, it only has 3.5 GB of VRAM and uses system memory for the last .5 GB! Not verified by other people yet, nor is there is an explanation why the benchmarks on the .5 GB is faster than system RAM. This is unbelievably horseshit, but of course the Nvidia hate brigade on Reddit et al. are jumping all over it. Its like the claims earlier this week that GSync was just FreeSync with DRM and a fake controller board, which got hundreds of people behind it on reddit before it was outed as fake.
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Wasn't the ENB guy real crazy back in the day coding everything on like a 2/3 year old GPU because he refused to upgrade?
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Party Plane Jones posted:Wasn't the ENB guy real crazy back in the day coding everything on like a 2/3 year old GPU because he refused to upgrade? Pretty sure he still does. I remember not being able to run one ENB on my 5850 a couple years back because the card was "too new". e: The guy also does super strange EXE/DLL packing to most versions of his mods that sets off virus false positives from time to time because he's paranoid people will rip him off. Kazinsal fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Feb 1, 2015 |
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Yeah, I don't buy the idea that there is only 3.5GB on the card or that it's entirely disabled. It would be super hilarious if it were true, can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth over something like that? 
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BurritoJustice posted:GSync was just FreeSync with DRM and a fake controller board, which got hundreds of people behind it on reddit before it was outed as fake. Uh, but wasn't it shown that Mobile G-Sync is pretty much just that. The regular desktop version is no doubt different, though.
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HalloKitty posted:Uh, but wasn't it shown that Mobile G-Sync is pretty much just that. The regular desktop version is no doubt different, though. I was referring to this bullshit. And it makes sense that the mobile variant doesn't require the GSync module given that eDP has had variable blanking since the dawn of time, so no need for either the module or AdaptiveSync. It makes sense using the capabilities of eDP for mobile GSync because its there, and using the module for desktop GSync because the capabilities aren't there (GSync predates AdaptiveSync, which is a 1.2a standard anyway which Nvidia cards don't have the connector for). Nvidia has done literally nothing shady here. If in the future they don't provide driver support for AdaptiveSync when the hardware is there, yeah that's a dick move, but we've not come to that yet. PCPer even touted the module version as providing a better experience, with graphs and everything to back it up. PCPer posted:We have already pointed out one specific instance where the G-Sync module and the included frame buffer have improved the experience: frame rates under 30 FPS
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Did the ENB guy ever actually upgrade to a 64-bit system?
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Not sure if I'm in the right place for this. My computer won't play my HD-Master Audio files (currently using XBMC), the picture lags to slow-mo like and I get no audio at all. What does this mean? Do I need to upgrade my graphics card? Audio? etc.?
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BurritoJustice posted:I was referring to this bullshit. What's funny is that the AdaptiveSync spec is just adding the existing eDP capabilities to the regular Display Port specs. This is going to make it difficult for Nvidia to claim that they can't support AdaptiveSync on the desktop since they've already implemented it for eDP connected cards.
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So I finally got a job so I'll be upgrading my GPU soon. Currently I have a 770, and I'm having trouble running games like Assassins Creed Unity and Dying Light, without being kicked back to my desktop due to "Low Memory" Is this an issue solved by getting a 4GB GPU, or is more RAM needed, since I only have 8.
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Fat_Cow posted:So I finally got a job so I'll be upgrading my GPU soon. Currently I have a 770, and I'm having trouble running games like Assassins Creed Unity and Dying Light, without being kicked back to my desktop due to "Low Memory" Is this an issue solved by getting a 4GB GPU, or is more RAM needed, since I only have 8. Low memory is RAM. Turn down view distance in dying light. ACU is a slog of a game. Im running 8GB now, but don't run into Low Memory problems. It helps not having things going on in the background. I have 17 tabs open in chrome and I'm using 65% of my RAM. This is on a 3 week old installation of Windows 7. If I were to play a game right now I probably would get into low RAM situations. SlayVus fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Feb 3, 2015 |
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Fat_Cow posted:So I finally got a job so I'll be upgrading my GPU soon. Currently I have a 770, and I'm having trouble running games like Assassins Creed Unity and Dying Light, without being kicked back to my desktop due to "Low Memory" Is this an issue solved by getting a 4GB GPU, or is more RAM needed, since I only have 8. That's an issue with lovely coding and memory leaks. Those 2 games are probably the worst offenders of being poo poo.
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Ah, alright shows how much I know. So do I just put off playing them till they are patched to working order?
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Fat_Cow posted:Ah, alright shows how much I know. So do I just put off playing them till they are patched to working order? No idea about Unity, but Dying Light hasn't crashed or run out of memory ever for me with 8 gigs and a 970.
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I've been trying to follow the whole GTX 970 ram fiasco, but I can't tell what's hyperbole and what's actual cause for concern. I'm running a single GTX 970, and I play games on 2560x1440p monitor which is where I've read people can run into issues. Do I have something to actually be concerned about or is it all hot water?
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Megasabin posted:I've been trying to follow the whole GTX 970 ram fiasco, but I can't tell what's hyperbole and what's actual cause for concern. I'm running a single GTX 970, and I play games on 2560x1440p monitor which is where I've read people can run into issues. Do I have something to actually be concerned about or is it all hot water?
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awesmoe posted:You tell us buddy, you're the one using the thing. Are you happy with the performance of your system? I actually don't know. I got the card recently, and I haven't been playing anything taxing on it. It was actually a christmas gift in anticipation for the Witcher III. If I have stuttering while trying to play the Witcher because of this issue I'm not going to be happy, so I'm trying to sort it out now.
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Megasabin posted:I've been trying to follow the whole GTX 970 ram fiasco, but I can't tell what's hyperbole and what's actual cause for concern. I'm running a single GTX 970, and I play games on 2560x1440p monitor which is where I've read people can run into issues. Do I have something to actually be concerned about or is it all hot water? Ehhh, no one really knows yet. Assuming that we really know everything there is to know about this issue you can treat the 970 like a 3.5GB card that does not choke up quite as badly when it goes over 3.5GB as a real 3.5GB card would. That last .5GB is vastly slower than the first 3.5GB but not nearly as slow as system memory. EDIT: Sorry to say this but we'll only know about how it handles TW3 once it's out and benchmarked. AVeryLargeRadish fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Feb 3, 2015 |
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Fat_Cow posted:Ah, alright shows how much I know. So do I just put off playing them till they are patched to working order? Unity might be patched somewhere in the far future but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Dying light on the other hand is very playable at 1080p 60fps at minimum settings on my 760. Bear in mind that at bare minimum settings Dying Light looks like BF4 on med/high so it's not an ugly experience.
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Megasabin posted:I actually don't know. I got the card recently, and I haven't been playing anything taxing on it. It was actually a christmas gift in anticipation for the Witcher III. If I have stuttering while trying to play the Witcher because of this issue I'm not going to be happy, so I'm trying to sort it out now. Just as a general FYI, you shouldn't really buy computer hardware in anticipation of a game that is 6 months away. I know Christmas complicates that but yeah, a lot can change in that time and nobody knows how stuff works with a game til it gets out there.
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Megasabin posted:I've been trying to follow the whole GTX 970 ram fiasco, but I can't tell what's hyperbole and what's actual cause for concern. I'm running a single GTX 970, and I play games on 2560x1440p monitor which is where I've read people can run into issues. Do I have something to actually be concerned about or is it all hot water? That last .5gb of ram doesn't exist as far as most games are concerned. I played Dark Souls 2 at 4k fine but it's not exactly thew most vram intensive thing. Setting Shadow of Mordor up to use HD textures which lists as using 6+ gb of vram still only uses 3.5gb max on the card. It's hard to say if it'll mess you up. Depends on the driver and game's vram allocation.
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Is there an easy way to set up an alert or on screen display to see when a game goes past 3.5? Then I can just turn the textures down a bit.
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Zero VGS posted:Is there an easy way to set up an alert or on screen display to see when a game goes past 3.5? Then I can just turn the textures down a bit. If it's not affecting you to the point where you're noticing performance drops, why would you care
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