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Khizan posted:False Gods, the second HH book. It wasn't aggressively bad, it was just a missed opportunity. His description of Horus' fall to Chaos was just flat and boring. Abnett really should have been given all three of the original trilogy.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Yeah, they went crazy with releases this last year. I haven't read it yet, but from what I hear, Pandorax was pretty mediocre. Priests was in print, but they rotate stuff out - I'm sure they will re-release it with an increased price. That's a shame, reading the extract I thought the Inquisition characters were awful but the blurb was all about Catachans and Dark Angels so I was hoping they'd be pushed into a subplot once things got going. Oh well I guess I'll pass. berzerkmonkey posted:My theory: GW is jacking us nerds over for all they possibly can. If it works for the tabletop, why not novels?; With their recent decrease in profit, they are looking to cut cost and increase profitability - charging the same (or more) than an actual paper book just increases their profit margin. Even better, with the ebooks, GW doesn't have to worry about stock, printing costs, shelf space, or Amazon competing with pricing. Unfortunately this is the impression I've had of GW for a few years now. Though I question the sustainability of this tactics, my local shop went from three staff members to one, meaning that when they had to check the stockroom they had kick everyone out and lock the door for an hour. It doesn't seem very wise to hammer a niche audience so much, they may be very loyal but there has to be a point where that breaks and once they lose them then they have nothing but some fancy artwork. I used to read everything BL published that was 40k and dipped into the WH stuff, and Necromunda (or whatever its called, the Hive city series) but now I'm on one book a month if that. Groetgaffel posted:It's strange to see praise for it. I didn't care much for it at all. I found all the characters boring, terminally unlikable or completely incompetent. A shame too, because I like the premise on paper. Yeah, that was kinda the point, the book is based quite heavily on the Vietnam war, with some US Cavalry thrown in for flavour. And of course a bit of Heart of Darkness to tie it all together. Most fiction based on Vietnam I've read like the Forever War is based on a similar premise, a group of poor sods being dumped very far from home in an hostile alien environment that constantly wears them down. Controlled by either incompetent or just totally callous and indifferent officers with the biggest slap in the face being that its all pointless no matter who eventually wins. I also thought the mystery was genuinely intriguing and the motivations of the villains refreshingly "real". Instead of a "It was Chaos all along" reveal. The only part I really didn't care for was the reveal that the Commissar with a serious case of PTSD who was my favourite character, was part of a time loop, and became a demon ghost thing in the past on a totally different planet. It just seemed completely pointless, it couldn't even serve as a sequel hook since the storyline it kicks off has already been told in Fire Caste.
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You should all read Matterhorne and Sympathy for the devil as general recommendations Watch some marines get fuckd by the long dick of an uncaring military without lube They really could be guardsmen somewhere, its an interesting comparison im a bit reluctant to make bc ham books are by and large poo poo and Matterhorne is a beautiful piece of literature that is held in very high regard about a very sensitive subject within the US But read it. Its good
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Waroduce posted:You should all read Matterhorne and Sympathy for the devil as general recommendations Seconding this Matterhorn is really good. Makes me wish David Simon would throw another bone to casual watchers and adapt it like he did Generation Kill. He could do a lot with the simmering racial tensions and bullshit up and down the command chain.
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Baka-nin posted:The only part I really didn't care for was the reveal that the Commissar with a serious case of PTSD who was my favourite character, was part of a time loop, and became a demon ghost thing in the past on a totally different planet. It just seemed completely pointless, it couldn't even serve as a sequel hook since the storyline it kicks off has already been told in Fire Caste. That, and steam-powered power armour. That was just dumb.
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So i just read Kharn: eater of worlds. I enjoyed it for the characters it introduces, the links with other characters related to Anthony Reynold's works, the almost zen like kharn and the way the tone of the book just seems so tense. The only time one is given to decompress is when the human characters are the focus, but those moments dont last long. Also on that note i would have liked some more development from the human characters since they seemed to be kind of dry at times, but that's understandable considering the world eaters are their masters. Overall i guess i would say that i liked. Anyone else read it?
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In Sorcerer and Exile when Astreos hears Ravens in the distance, what does it mean or suggest?
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:In Sorcerer and Exile when Astreos hears Ravens in the distance, what does it mean or suggest? That the Blood Ravens are about to show up and steal his poo poo? 
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I haven't read a Horus Heresy book since Know No Fear. What's a good book to return to - Vengeful Spirit, The Damnation of Pythos or Scars?
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:I had a shower thought. If space marines rib cages are fused into a solid mass of bullet proof bone during the implant process, and they're given a third lung during the same process, then how do they breathe without intercostal ligaments? Without the flexibility afforded by flexible bones and intercostal spaces, are their chest cavities cavernous enough to allow for the expansion of three respirating lungs along with their primary and secondary hearts? The answer is almost certainly that the overwhelming majority of people who write 40K content aren't medical professionals.
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saucepanman posted:I haven't read a Horus Heresy book since Know No Fear. What's a good book to return to - Vengeful Spirit, The Damnation of Pythos or Scars? Betrayer, no question about it.
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:What is this post? They're not completely fused, they just have overlapping processes and some portions fuse. Also bones don't flex significantly during respiration, the ribs themselves articulate to expand the pleural cavity
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Is it just me or is the cover of the Dark Eldar anthology just a Tolkien ork?
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e:^ Nah that's just a picture of me IRL before my morning coffee.saucepanman posted:I haven't read a Horus Heresy book since Know No Fear. What's a good book to return to - Vengeful Spirit, The Damnation of Pythos or Scars? Vengeful Spirit has it's moments and has returning characters from the first three books. It also introduces a new perpetual. But otherwise it's considered at the lower end of the quality spectrum. The Damnation of Pythos follows a gang of Isstvan survivors, mostly Iron Hands, dicking around on a death world; doing nothing useful. It is completely irrelevant. Personally I think it's almost as bad as Nemesis. Scars on the other hand is genuinely good, explores the White Scars in an interesting manner, and has one of my favourite moments in the entire Heresy series: Malacdor sassing Dorn by claiming that things would've been much better if Big E had made the Primarchs women.
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Alfredo Pangea posted:Is it just me or is the cover of the Dark Eldar anthology just a Tolkien ork? It's a Peter Jackson LotR orc, yes, but then, the orcs from Tolkein ARE basically dark elves, as far as I understand it - they used to be elves, they were kidnapped by Sauron and corrupted into their current form. Same basic deal.
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Wait what? That's how Peter Jackson orks came to be?
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Thanks for the recommendations guys, I'll get Scars and Betrayer after that.
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Groetgaffel posted:
If you can deal with slow shipping times, bookdepository.co.uk has some really cheap prices and free international shipping. I've gotten books from there that were cheaper than buying the kindle version and they've got a pretty good BL collection available.
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Mange Mite posted:Most of his Ultramarines books are pretty terrible. I just finished Nightbringer and I thought it was pretty good. Is it worth it to continue with the series or should I consider Nightbringer a one off?
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Alpheus posted:I just finished Nightbringer and I thought it was pretty good. Is it worth it to continue with the series or should I consider Nightbringer a one off? Warriors of Ultramar is a somewhat decent bolter porn novel, typical Tyranid invasion stuff. Dead Sky Black Sun is a mind numbing turd, tread further on your own risk.
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I've just finished Flight of the Eisenstein, and found it thoroughly entertaining after the beginning portion, before actually boarding the Eisenstein. I've also gotten my hands on Ian Watson's "Space Marine", after hearing it is quite the thing. Fulgrim sounds like it might be a good read, but it comes to my attention that Descent of Angels has listed under, "Other Non-Astartes Imperials" the Emperor of Mankind. Don't tell me they bloody screwed it up, because the Emperor himself being around is a pretty crazy concept.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:I've just finished Flight of the Eisenstein, and found it thoroughly entertaining after the beginning portion, before actually boarding the Eisenstein. I've also gotten my hands on Ian Watson's "Space Marine", after hearing it is quite the thing. Fulgrim sounds like it might be a good read, but it comes to my attention that Descent of Angels has listed under, "Other Non-Astartes Imperials" the Emperor of Mankind. Don't tell me they bloody screwed it up, because the Emperor himself being around is a pretty crazy concept. Youre super british. Interesting that one among us found Flight not utter shite m8
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"You decapitated him." "There was a lot of first blood." The Kharn book is much funnier than I expected it to be.
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:Wait what? That's how Peter Jackson orks came to be?
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Don't tell me they bloody screwed it up, because the Emperor himself being around is a pretty crazy concept. You should probably check out the old Inquisition Wars omnibus, I forget which one its in but there's a part where the Inquisitor meets the Emperor and finds out he has multiple personalities. It's by the same author who wrote Space Marine.
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MrNemo posted:If you can deal with slow shipping times, bookdepository.co.uk has some really cheap prices and free international shipping. I've gotten books from there that were cheaper than buying the kindle version and they've got a pretty good BL collection available. 
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:I've just finished Flight of the Eisenstein, and found it thoroughly entertaining after the beginning portion, before actually boarding the Eisenstein. I've also gotten my hands on Ian Watson's "Space Marine", after hearing it is quite the thing. Fulgrim sounds like it might be a good read, but it comes to my attention that Descent of Angels has listed under, "Other Non-Astartes Imperials" the Emperor of Mankind. Don't tell me they bloody screwed it up, because the Emperor himself being around is a pretty crazy concept. The Emperor also appears in the First Heretic and Outcast Dead.
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He was also in Graham McNeill's short story "The Wolf Of Ash and Fire", being battle buddies with Horus.
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And that story about the last church He's been in a whole bunch which isn't too surprising as he wasn't always a corpse
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Fearless posted:The Emperor also appears in the First Heretic and Outcast Dead. Lincoln`s Wax posted:He was also in Graham McNeill's short story "The Wolf Of Ash and Fire", being battle buddies with Horus. Skarsnik posted:And that story about the last church Ya'll are forgetting his appearance in that much loved classic Nemesis. 
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Groetgaffel posted:I buy via Amazon.co.uk, and most of those books comes from bookdepository, so yeah.
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Baka-nin posted:Ya'll are forgetting his appearance in that much loved classic Nemesis. More like repressing.
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Edit: Big E also lays down the law in A Thousand Sons during the Trial of Magnus the Red. Lincoln`s Wax posted:He was also in Graham McNeill's short story "The Wolf Of Ash and Fire", being battle buddies with Horus. Wolf of Ash and Fire was the most anime-like 30k HH short story I've ever read. I kind of liked it. Any other HH shorts worth reading? AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Feb 3, 2015 |
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I've read a bunch of them and the good thing that is even if they aren't good, they're incredibly short. The Big E's interactions with Horus in ...Ash and Fire reminds me of those rare moments on King of the Hill where Hank is very patient and encouraging of Bobby. Read him with Hank's voice and it will blow your mind.
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Arquinsiel posted:Any idea why they've stopped shipping outside the UK? I can't get them to deliver to Ireland through Amazon anymore. Check their site because they will deliver to Malaysia for free so I would be surprised if Ireland is out of their area.
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MrNemo posted:Check their site because they will deliver to Malaysia for free so I would be surprised if Ireland is out of their area.
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Lincoln`s Wax posted:I've read a bunch of them and the good thing that is even if they aren't good, they're incredibly short. "Dangit Horus!" "I preach imperium and imperium accessories"
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"So are ya Eldar or Ork?" "We Tau. We from small cluster on the eastern fringe, out on the borders." ". . . So are ya Eldar or Ork?"
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