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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Drastic Actions posted:




People wanted fonts to scale. No one said a drat thing about images. :smug:

Well I am :colbert: my 6inch phone screen makes the images huge!

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Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

ratbert90 posted:

Well I am :colbert: my 6inch phone screen makes the images huge!

Just hold the phone farther away from your face, duh :v:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Factor Mystic posted:

Just hold the phone farther away from your face, duh :v:

I dint buy my 1520 to hold it further away from my face sir. :colbert:

MobMentality
Aug 22, 2007

I'm Mike Doyle.
Get that poo poo up in your face. Get that poo poo inside your face.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009
So according to win Central windows 8.1 BoA support is also being dropped. Wtf you guys

http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/bank-of-america/954cf0a2-96ff-4c31-9d5a-b83560cf4bde

Mr Funkface fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Jan 31, 2015

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Man, Bubsy's controls were bad enough with a Genesis controller, I shudder to think how unplayable the game is on a touchscreen

MyFaceBeHi
Apr 9, 2008

I was popular, once.
I'm sure Ulilililia will tell you. For all we know he probably ported it over to WP!

Naffer
Oct 26, 2004

Not a good chemist

Mr Funkface posted:

So according to win Central windows 8.1 BoA support is also being dropped. Wtf you guys

Don't worry, NoDo. WP7.5, WP8, WP8.1, WP10 is right around the corner and should make all our dreams come true.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009

Naffer posted:

Don't worry, NoDo. WP7.5, WP8, WP8.1, WP10 is right around the corner and should make all our dreams come true.

I know you're being sarcastic, but I'm optimistic.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

It helps that Win10 on desktops is getting some modicum of popular support; for all of those iterations of WP, its desktop counterpart Win8 either didn't exist yet or was really unpopular. If Win10 on phones shares design principles and a close association with a widely popular desktop OS that can't be bad :shrug:

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
I tried that tetra lock screen -I wouldn't recommend it on an older wp8 phone like the 920. Even after uninstalling, waking the phone will take up to the seconds to wake (just have a resuming... Screen like you just unlocked and were loading the drive app)

Myrddin_Emrys
Mar 27, 2007

by Hand Knit

Naffer posted:

Don't worry, NoDo. WP7.5, WP8, WP8.1, WP10 is right around the corner and should make all our dreams come true.

Well I am very optimistic especially as the latest build of windows 10 that im beta testing is infact pretty awesome. I have high hopes.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
What do you Windows Phone users think of Microsoft investing in Android ROMs? Any worries?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Uthor posted:

What do you Windows Phone users think of Microsoft investing in Android ROMs? Any worries?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/

Wouldn't have been terribly worried either way, but with Windows 10 announcements out and fairly clearly treating phones as a tier one device type I don't see any reason to fear. Most likely a matter of screwing with Google in a net positive way (potential for gain, actually good for end users, while still wresting a small bit of control away from Google).

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Uthor posted:

What do you Windows Phone users think of Microsoft investing in Android ROMs? Any worries?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/
Not sure what to think of that. People speculate that it's part of a strategy to make another dent in Google. Which is a weird thing to do, because they need all goodwill they can get to hope for a remote chance of Google implementing a Windows Phone version of their app suite (or rather have it happen sooner than later, should WP10 finally gain some traction). When Nadella took over, a lot of Ballmer's anti-Google antics were stopped in their tracks. Now this.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



Microsoft putting money on Cyanogenmod is more about pushing a community that isn't friendly to manufacturer skins like Touchwiz (samsung) and other android variants. All I want is a proper Windows 8 launcher for android (there's one already but is far from the WP8.1 experience). I've used Cyanogenmod roms on my Galaxy S, Galaxy S4 and Nexus 7 2013 (now running stock) and my experiences have been mostly positive. Who knows, maybe a Lumia X2? :q:

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost
In case anyone is wondering where that Awful build is at, and why it is not in the store yet... it failed cert, but only because I built it on the newest Windows 10 build, and it screwed around with the metadata which caused them to fail it. I need to get a Windows 8.1 build running again so I can recompile it and submit it, so it may be a day or two more. Sorry :(

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Hey, I appreciate your efforts. On my RT, any way to refresh forum names? They are old , yet.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009
So I just got an email from MS saying my XBox Live Music whatever subscription is ending in a month or so. I don't think I'll renew given how lovely the app is. Any recommendations for a replacement service? Is spotify any good? Alternatively I just got a cut-price 64GB micoSD so I may just store music locally instead of stream. What's a good music playing app?

Alternative pants
Nov 2, 2009

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.


Mr Funkface posted:

So I just got an email from MS saying my XBox Live Music whatever subscription is ending in a month or so. I don't think I'll renew given how lovely the app is. Any recommendations for a replacement service? Is spotify any good? Alternatively I just got a cut-price 64GB micoSD so I may just store music locally instead of stream. What's a good music playing app?

I love Spotify, they did just update it recently though, so I haven't had much chance to see how well it actually runs. The service itself is fantastic though. I've discovered a ton of new artists store I started listening on the app.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

I don't think the new version of the Spotify changes the behavior of the app in any significant way, so it remains a tad clunky but perfectly functional, and as you say; the service is top-notch (notably their web player is really good, which is a great convenience).

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


Spotify app is decent. One thing it does that irks me is that it you pause a song and try to play it again through the volume rocker or the middle button on a headset it forgets that the song is there after like 15 minutes. If you go back into the app it remembers, so I guess it's just a memory thing.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Spotify is pretty great (premium subscriber here). I use it exclusively.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost
Another update for you all: I resubmitted the app and got past the metadata issue, so now it will probably fail on content :v:.

I put some extra fixes in this release though. First, images will scale with font changes.







Also, unread counts will be changed when you go back to a thread list view after viewing a thread. In other words, you don't have to refresh the list to see the right count. Second, if you use the unread thread command, it will change the color and remove the unread counter correctly without reading the thread list.

Venusy
Feb 21, 2007
I was kind of wondering before if the shift towards hamburger menus might not just be for consistency with desktop Windows 10, but in case MS want to make Android apps available as a quick way of trying to fix the app gap. An investment in Cyanogen could maybe help with that if that's their eventual goal, but it could just as easily be a "screw Google" measure. v:shobon:v

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Uthor posted:

What do you Windows Phone users think of Microsoft investing in Android ROMs? Any worries?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/


In addition to what's already been said you could also see it as an attempt to get goodwill. There is a good reason why people are rooting their devices with Cyanogenmod. I don't think anyone will ever see it as good will though. :shrug:

Foxtrot_13
Oct 31, 2013
Ask me about my love of genocide denial!

Darth TNT posted:

In addition to what's already been said you could also see it as an attempt to get goodwill. There is a good reason why people are rooting their devices with Cyanogenmod. I don't think anyone will ever see it as good will though. :shrug:

Microsoft has a portfolio of Android products so buying into Cyanogenmod could just be a way of getting access to very good Android developers and to get its own infrastructure on phones as standard.

Plus having a plan B never hurts. Apple had OSX running on Intel chips from the start just in case Motorola/IBM couldn't keep the PowerPC chips competitive.

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


The Bing background today is an alpine marmot and not a groundhog. I realize they're both marmots but still :argh:

TheBuilder
Jul 11, 2001

Foxtrot_13 posted:

Microsoft has a portfolio of Android products so buying into Cyanogenmod could just be a way of getting access to very good Android developers and to get its own infrastructure on phones as standard.

Plus having a plan B never hurts. Apple had OSX running on Intel chips from the start just in case Motorola/IBM couldn't keep the PowerPC chips competitive.

Perhaps its an early move to buy the whole company for its annual OS platform overhaul?

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Perhaps they will have official dual booting of WP10 and Android?

Also free ponies and rainbow farting unicorns for all! :woop:

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



ratbert90 posted:

Perhaps they will have official dual booting of WP10 and Android?

Also free ponies and rainbow farting unicorns for all! :woop:

And as I said, I want a proper windows launcher for my Nexus 7 2013 damnit (and my galaxy s4).

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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Drastic Actions posted:

Another update for you all: I resubmitted the app and got past the metadata issue, so now it will probably fail on content :v:.
Nice update text. I do appreciate all the work you're doing on this. Rated 5 etc :)

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

xylo posted:

Nice update text. I do appreciate all the work you're doing on this. Rated 5 etc :)

Thanks, but if possible, could you find the Windows Phone app compliance testers and tell them they are making my (development) life a living hell?

The app failed cert again, because they could not log in with my test account. It apparently took them two days to figure that out, and I, again, logged in with the same account across multiple devices and it worked fine. I think they just can't type, nor read. :psyduck:. So gently caress this, I'm sick of watching copyrighted bullshit apps get passed straight through, and me fail because those rear end in a top hat testers. And for those wondering, I did challenge the result and at least asked why exactly it failed. The ruling still stands and they won't give me any more information other than the app did not crash. So really, it's just because they are loving stupid.

So to get around this poo poo, I'm running a beta! This will let me iterate faster and avoid the testers until I need to deal with them again. Here is a sign up form.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

Drastic Actions posted:

Thanks, but if possible, could you find the Windows Phone app compliance testers and tell them they are making my (development) life a living hell?

The app failed cert again, because they could not log in with my test account. It apparently took them two days to figure that out, and I, again, logged in with the same account across multiple devices and it worked fine. I think they just can't type, nor read. :psyduck:. So gently caress this, I'm sick of watching copyrighted bullshit apps get passed straight through, and me fail because those rear end in a top hat testers. And for those wondering, I did challenge the result and at least asked why exactly it failed. The ruling still stands and they won't give me any more information other than the app did not crash. So really, it's just because they are loving stupid.

So to get around this poo poo, I'm running a beta! This will let me iterate faster and avoid the testers until I need to deal with them again. Here is a sign up form.

Awesome — signed up.

Fuckin' testers :commissar:

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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Drastic Actions posted:

Thanks, but if possible, could you find the Windows Phone app compliance testers and tell them they are making my (development) life a living hell?
Please PM me your email and I'll see what I can do.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

Foxtrot_13 posted:

Microsoft has a portfolio of Android products so buying into Cyanogenmod could just be a way of getting access to very good Android developers and to get its own infrastructure on phones as standard.

Plus having a plan B never hurts. Apple had OSX running on Intel chips from the start just in case Motorola/IBM couldn't keep the PowerPC chips competitive.

You know Microsoft could make an actual Windows Phone 8 launcher for Android complete with live tiles, if they implemented the inter-app communication required. They could do this for their whole suite of products (Email, IM, Weather, OneDrive, Contracts, SmartGlass, Stocks, Maps, Bing, Office). At that point they would have a complete Windows Phone Experience on Android.

To be fair it's not like all that many third party apps on Windows Phone use live tiles. They could create a generic API for apps to use if they want to work with an Android version of live tiles and make a decent version of Windows Phone on the Android platform.

Set up their own app repository (Ahem Nokia or Amazon) and really fork Android. I think MS is probably the only entity big enough to make a legit competitive fork in the non-eastern market to Android without Google Play/Play services.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I'm not sure how a forked Android that doesn't get Google Play is better for Microsoft or WP users than WP actually :confused:

I guess they wouldn't have to devote resources to OS development but they'd have to start from scratch on their app selection and it wouldn't get them any more marketshare

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

loquacius posted:

I'm not sure how a forked Android that doesn't get Google Play is better for Microsoft or WP users than WP actually :confused:

I guess they wouldn't have to devote resources to OS development but they'd have to start from scratch on their app selection and it wouldn't get them any more marketshare

Aren't they going to have those coders "left over" anyway? Windows 10 is supposed to be for all platforms at the same time, so I assume that there isn't a separate phone team anymore.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost


:guinness:

I'm still going to run the beta, so I can start experimenting with new features and ideas to get better feedback without totally screwing up the stable build. So anyone who wants in can still sign up. The beta and stable builds should be able to live side by side, so having both on your system should not be an issue.

I'll also be making a new thread in Project.Log for all things .Net Awful Forums Reader, so that way I won't be wasting space in this thread for people who don't give a poo poo about it.

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Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

loquacius posted:

I'm not sure how a forked Android that doesn't get Google Play is better for Microsoft or WP users than WP actually :confused:

I guess they wouldn't have to devote resources to OS development but they'd have to start from scratch on their app selection and it wouldn't get them any more marketshare

Oh I'm not making an argument they can or should, just that they could pretty easily replicate WP on Android if they felt the need, or they could just let WP run Android apps pretty easily too.

Hopefully W10 is really good enough and it can lift WP along with it.

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