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Jesus, are we really going to kill thousands upon thousands of children just to spite Obama now? He really needs to come out in favor of breathing before small pox comes back.
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I think my favorite line is "The state doesn't own children. Parents own the children." That is a really hosed up line that won't get enough press. Also, everything is about "freedom!"
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Feb 3, 2015 01:39
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The thing that really kills me is this wild convoluted line of thinking where "two men I don't know signing a piece of paper and living together, probably having sex" becomes a danger to children nationwide, but the direct line from non vaccinated to "deadly measles outbreak" is an issue of freedoms. We're fully a nation of little dictators running around upset that our edicts aren't being carried out to the letter, or that some loving peasant thinks they also apply to me, the high commander of Jesus.
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Feb 3, 2015 01:47
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I don't think Rand Paul, if pressed, actually believes that parents "own" children in the Rothbardian sense, he's not that hardcore, it's just that Libertarianism has so infected his thinking that he defaults to expressing his thoughts in terms of property.
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Feb 3, 2015 01:49
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I am seriously bummed O'Malley isn't running, I liked him as governor.
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Joementum posted:I don't think Rand Paul, if pressed, actually believes that parents "own" children in the Rothbardian sense, he's not that hardcore, it's just that Libertarianism has so infected his thinking that he defaults to expressing his thoughts in terms of property. And yet, he only uses others' property to further his ambitions, never his own. Funny how that works. I guess the only moral handout is Rand Paul's handouts.
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Feb 3, 2015 01:57
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Rand Paul inherited everything up to and including at least 75% of his fanbase from his father, from which the other 25 sprung. His biggest personal contribution was putting a rug on his head.
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Feb 3, 2015 02:00
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So... weird day when Ben Carson is the voice of reason. “Certain communicable diseases have been largely eradicated by immunization policies in this country and we should not allow those diseases to return by foregoing safe immunization programs, for philosophical, religious or other reasons when we have the means to eradicate them.”
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Feb 3, 2015 02:05
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You know who else doesn't vaccinate their kids? The Taliban. How can America trust Rand Paul to lead if he continues to ally himself with terrorists? Is Senator 'Aqua Buddha' even Christian? This message brought to you by Huck '16
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Sorus posted:I am seriously bummed O'Malley isn't running, I liked him as governor. He's definitely running.
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Feb 3, 2015 02:17
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Parents who don't vaccinate their kids should face stiff fines and be on a list and legally required to inform the neighborhood like they do with sex offenders. Also be open to litigation from parents whose kids they endanger and or kill.
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Feb 3, 2015 02:23
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My Imaginary GF posted:You know who else doesn't vaccinate their kids? Counterpoint: you know who did vaccinate his kids? And suffered adverse health effects from doing so? Osama Bin Laden. Why exactly does Obama want to vaccinate your children?
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Feb 3, 2015 02:33
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MariusLecter posted:Parents who don't vaccinate their kids should face stiff fines and be on a list and legally required to inform the neighborhood like they do with sex offenders. At the very least a "doctor" who goes on national television and says there is a link between mental disorders and vaccines should have his license revoked in perpetuity.
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Feb 3, 2015 02:34
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By the way, today is a great example of why Hillary is in no rush to officially (or even semi-officially) announce her campaign. Look at all the Republican contenders (and also Martin O'Malley) who had to define their position on the issue du jour.
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Feb 3, 2015 03:53
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Joementum posted:I don't think Rand Paul, if pressed, actually believes that parents "own" children in the Rothbardian sense, he's not that hardcore, it's just that Libertarianism has so infected his thinking that he defaults to expressing his thoughts in terms of property. Surely the children, rational actors they are, voluntarily enter into a mutually beneficial relationship with their parents whereby in exchange for free room and board they agree to forego a limited number of natural rights.
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Saying parents own the kids sounds like a push back against the idea of kids belonging to the community rather than to parents. MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry caught a bunch of flak for saying kids don't belong to parents they belong to the community. Of course, belong and own have different connotations.
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Joementum posted:Look at all the Republican contenders (and also Martin O'Malley) who had to define their position on the issue du jour. I'm loving it.  I know some mostly sensible, business-type Republicans who happen to be strongly pro-vaccination, and Christie and Paul coming out and saying stupid poo poo just gives me more ammunition. Like, it's one thing to give climate change short shrift - the changes are slow, the symptoms can be (mis)interpreted as 'just the weather' or whatever - but any fool can draw a very direct line between low vaccination rates and the resurgence of diseases from the bad old days.
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Winter Stormer posted:I'm loving it. Rand Paul has a pretty solid circumstantial case that vaccines cause serious mental disorders, at least.
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Rand's interview on CNBC went south pretty fast. He came across as pretty petulant and unable to think on his feet.
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Neeksy posted:Rand's interview on CNBC went south pretty fast. He came across as pretty petulant and unable to think on his feet. I think you mean, Rand Paul grew impatient with the very gotcha, misleading questions asked by the liberal CNBC interviewer, who is likely a professor somewhere.
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Joementum posted:By the way, today is a great example of why Hillary is in no rush to officially (or even semi-officially) announce her campaign. But she went ahead and tweeted out a statement anyway. https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/562456798020386816
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Joementum posted:By the way, today is a great example of why Hillary is in no rush to officially (or even semi-officially) announce her campaign. Rand hasn't announced either, its not stopping him from going on TV and being a moron.
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So according to the New York Times, The King of Jordan has been paying Christie's travel and football bills. So he's out.
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sbaldrick posted:So according to the New York Times, The King of Jordan has been paying Christie's travel and football bills. So he's out. He's a literal meatball, fork him.
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Christie is of the same political and intellectual caliber as Rick Perry. It's always been a joke that he'd actually get anywhere on the national scene.
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From the Fox News poll released this week, Christie's down to 4% among GOP primary voters. Those are Jindal numbers.
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Nonsense posted:He's a literal meatball, fork him. 
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sbaldrick posted:So according to the New York Times, The King of Jordan has been paying Christie's travel and football bills. So he's out. Wtf why the king of jordan?
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sbaldrick posted:So according to the New York Times, The King of Jordan has been paying Christie's travel and football bills. So he's out. Is there a link to the article, I don't see anyone else covering this.
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katlington posted:Wtf why the king of jordan? Port shenanigans maybe?
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shadow puppet of a posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/03/nyregion/in-christies-career-a-fondness-forluxe-benefits-when-others-pay-the-bills.html New York Times posted:An executive order Mr. Christie signed in 2010 allows New Jersey governors to have travel and related expenses paid by foreign governments Apparently it's not illegal!
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sullat posted:Apparently it's not illegal! I love that. Don't worry, citizens, I declared that my actions are totally in line with the law!
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My personal opinion is that anyone with a real bent for luxury travel on someone else's money, like the sort that continually and knowingly break the rules to grab that higher rung for a single night just so they can avoid the emotional pain of staying at a Doubletree, are the worst sort of people on the planet and should be isolated and quarantined (in squalid bunkhouses) There is something terrifying lurking inside them. Travelling on your own dime, go hog wild and do what you like, those people are fine.
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Pegged Lamb posted:He reminds me of George IV Wait, are you from the distant future too? I didn't think anyone else knew about George B.M.W. Bush IV.
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shadow puppet of a posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/03/nyregion/in-christies-career-a-fondness-forluxe-benefits-when-others-pay-the-bills.html quote:As United States attorney for New Jersey, Mr. Christie developed a reputation for flouting the rules on travel. A Justice Department report after he left office found that he was the prosecutor who most often exceeded the charges allowed for hotel stays in different cities, without properly searching for a cheaper alternative, or justifying any exemption from the rules. He stayed at a Four Seasons in Washington and a new boutique hotel in Boston, for example, at more than double the cost allowed for those cities. Also I knew he was fat but I didn't realise he was this fat. 
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Joementum posted:By the way, today is a great example of why Hillary is in no rush to officially (or even semi-officially) announce her campaign. None of those idiots really had to say anything controversial, there's always a bland way to say nothing on an issue, but thankfully Hillary just went ahead and said the right thing anyway.
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shadow puppet of a posted:My personal opinion is that anyone with a real bent for luxury travel on someone else's money, like the sort that continually and knowingly break the rules to grab that higher rung for a single night just so they can avoid the emotional pain of staying at a Doubletree, are the worst sort of people on the planet and should be isolated and quarantined (in squalid bunkhouses) I dunno that it's terrifying, but it certainly elicits contempt. Is he really risking his whole political career because of an addiction to luxury? If you have presidential ambitions, why tempt fate by accepting such large gifts from a foreign sovereign?
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