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Gorilla Salad posted:You know how, in horror movies, if you hold a crucifix up to a vampire it flinches away with its hands over its face? That's me every time I see one of those [Fiat Multiplas]. Although the first thing I saw once I got off the train in Milan was a Lancia Voyager (Dodge Caravan) and a dealership advertising that they had the turbo diesel PT Cruiser in stock!
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Huggable Bear King posted:Well Chrysler years are like dog years, so most of them should be off the road by 2020. If the Morris Marina has a fan club, you can bet the PT will too. Thousands of fans world wide, lovingly restoring and preserving their "iconic" cars.
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Feb 3, 2015 15:41
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I predict by 2040 there will be a post on the internet about someone's epic barn find.. a completely stock 2001 with only surface rust! Actually it was in the driveway up to the barn, because the transmission gave out and the owner just left it there.
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Throatwarbler posted:I guess I get what you mean about BOF vehicles being space inefficient, but that's just a strange example. I was surprised when I went from my mk4 GLI to the MK6 Golf with how big it is inside. There's a Tiguan that parks outside my window and we always joke about how it's just a lifted Golf. As to straight cut timing gears, is there any actual benefit over regular timing gears? Seems like every air cooled engine these days has them instead of the nice quiet gears.
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veedubfreak posted:I was surprised when I went from my mk4 GLI to the MK6 Golf with how big it is inside. There's a Tiguan that parks outside my window and we always joke about how it's just a lifted Golf. I always thought those gear drives were some sort of redneck ricer thing to make it sound like it's got a blower.
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Feb 3, 2015 16:48
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veedubfreak posted:As to straight cut timing gears, is there any actual benefit over regular timing gears? Seems like every air cooled engine these days has them instead of the nice quiet gears. Straight cut gears don't generate thrust loading, so you can put them on any camshaft that has plain bearings.
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Feb 3, 2015 17:03
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My old International and my buddys Ford flahead both have timing gears and they dont make any noise. I think those aftermarket ones that sound like blowers are cut to make sound on purpose.
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Feb 3, 2015 17:44
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veedubfreak posted:As to straight cut timing gears, is there any actual benefit over regular timing gears? Seems like every air cooled engine these days has them instead of the nice quiet gears. For racing purposes, they have less lash than even a double-roller timing chain. Stronger, more reliable, basically, with the noise as a tradeoff. They can be made helical, or at least angled, so they don't make quite as much noise, but the noise is a desired racy-sounding thing. One of the brands I once looked at makes a quiet version, and a noisy version. edit: Fart Pipe posted:My old International and my buddys Ford flahead both have timing gears and they dont make any noise. I think those aftermarket ones that sound like blowers are cut to make sound on purpose. Pretty much. It sounds cool, for varying values of cool.
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Feb 3, 2015 20:10
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Warrior Princess posted:I like the one in my ranger. Yeah... I have to admit my Sport Trac towed 10,000 lbs of trailer from Long, Island NY to VA without an issue. I can't complain.
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Feb 3, 2015 20:24
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Yeah... I have to admit my Sport Trac towed 10,000 lbs of trailer from Long, Island NY to VA without an issue. Jesus. That's 2x the rating of my 4Runner. Hope you had a trailer brake at least.
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Fart Pipe posted:My old International and my buddys Ford flahead both have timing gears and they dont make any noise. I think those aftermarket ones that sound like blowers are cut to make sound on purpose. They're likely helical cut like the ones on my 345, you know that helical gears are pretty quiet versus straight cut. The ones for Chevy's that I've seen are pairs of straight cut gears that hold between the cam and crank gears. A cursory check at JEGS shows some that are made in a 'quieter' and 'louder' formation, but both straight cut gears and will be noisy. I wonder why there aren't any helical cut sets, perhaps the geometry doesn't work? http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performance-Products/JEGS-Performance-Gear-Drives/755534/10002/-1 oh what do you know someone beat me to it.
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Feb 3, 2015 21:21
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gently caress. I somehow did that while changing the oil on my tractor (suspect pinched internal valve cover gasket), and it crushed my spirit so much I let it sit there for a couple of months. That is some serious pain in the rear end. I hope it happened while parts were not in motion.
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StormDrain posted:They're likely helical cut like the ones on my 345, you know that helical gears are pretty quiet versus straight cut. The ones for Chevy's that I've seen are pairs of straight cut gears that hold between the cam and crank gears. A cursory check at JEGS shows some that are made in a 'quieter' and 'louder' formation, but both straight cut gears and will be noisy. I wonder why there aren't any helical cut sets, perhaps the geometry doesn't work? Yea I think they are. However the gears in my transmission are straight cut and make plenty of noise, haha.
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Feb 3, 2015 21:55
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Viffer or something more expensive? Straight cut gearchat reminds me of my NC30. A gear driven V4 that could spin to 14k. It sounded magical 
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Feb 3, 2015 22:18
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Do we have to play "Blood or Transmission Fluid" again?
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With helical cut don't you just need a thrust bearing to keep the cam from going walkabout? I know on 4.0s they put a thrust peg in the end toward the timing cover that is pressurized by an oil galley in the cam, keeping the cam forced toward the back of the motor, where it spins against a thrust bearing. e: that sure looks like ATF to me, unless 14" has been shooting up with antiseize (again.) Warrior Princess posted:My love comes from it being the only vehicle I've ever owned and I've had no problems with it for 120k miles / 10 years. It does get just under 21mpg though, but it's the 2wd xlt automatic. Not bad, in fact that's a hell of a lot better than the crap can I bought as my first car  ... and the second through seventh too.
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Maxwells Demon posted:Do we have to play "Blood or Transmission Fluid" again? Why does it have to be one or the other?
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Feb 3, 2015 23:20
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68 camaro, guy had a reman with a bad batch of amulite causing the modial phase detractors to fall out of alignment with the sperving bearing.
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Feb 3, 2015 23:23
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OFFICER 13 INCH posted:68 camaro, guy had a reman with a bad batch of amulite causing the modial phase detractors to fall out of alignment with the sperving bearing. He needs to re-calibrate his barascent skor module, he probably had the diractence up too high. It's a common problem.
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Feb 3, 2015 23:47
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Memento posted:He needs to re-calibrate his barascent skor module, he probably had the diractence up too high. It's a common problem. While he's at it he should probably check the tension on the differential girdle spring, it's probably way out of spec now.
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Feb 4, 2015 00:16
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kastein posted:With helical cut don't you just need a thrust bearing to keep the cam from going walkabout? I know on 4.0s they put a thrust peg in the end toward the timing cover that is pressurized by an oil galley in the cam, keeping the cam forced toward the back of the motor, where it spins against a thrust bearing. Interesting, I haven't been deeper than the valve train in mine but that all makes sense. Also explains why you can't buy a helical aftermarket gearset for a small block Chevy.
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Slavvy posted:Viffer or something more expensive? looks like a VFR750. The NC30 is amazing and is my #1 most desired bike at the moment.
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Does that transmission provide inverse reactive current for use in unilateral phase detractors? I know it's capable of automatically synchronizing cardinal grammeters, though. You can tell from the blood.
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Terrible Robot posted:While he's at it he should probably check the tension on the differential girdle spring, it's probably way out of spec now. My last girlfriend had this same problem.
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Terrible Robot posted:While he's at it he should probably check the tension on the differential girdle spring, it's probably way out of spec now. I once got hosed by a girdle spring.
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Feb 4, 2015 01:33
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kastein posted:With helical cut don't you just need a thrust bearing to keep the cam from going walkabout? I know on 4.0s they put a thrust peg in the end toward the timing cover that is pressurized by an oil galley in the cam, keeping the cam forced toward the back of the motor, where it spins against a thrust bearing. Herringbone gears don't push sideways like helical gears, but they aren't as simple to make. 
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:looks like a VFR750. Don't get one, you'll be desperately disappointed by how heavy it is and how lacking the top-end is. Also it has a hilarious first gear that gets you up to 100km/h, which is great for stringing together low speed corners but not so great for hill starts or riding slowly. Great handling and sound though, especially if you take the retarded toilet-pipe out of the exhaust. Mine had a header-back system and it sounded/went noticeably better than factory ones. Also, 18" rear wheel so you're limited to battleax or shinko on the rear, unless you stump up the better part of a grand for a 17" rear wheel from an NC35
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SperginMcBadposter posted:Herringbone gears don't push sideways like helical gears, but they aren't as simple to make. This actually was part of the reason that the Panther tank had so many mechanical issues: Because Allied bombing had destroyed the machining equipment needed to make the more reliable gearing for the final drive.
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Powershift posted:Don't worry, it will be dead soon. This is why I love AI
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CommieGIR posted:This actually was part of the reason that the Panther tank had so many mechanical issues: Because Allied bombing had destroyed the machining equipment needed to make the more reliable gearing for the final drive. I think I spend too much time in the WoT thread - panther vs tiger II final drives were the first thing I thought of too.
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SperginMcBadposter posted:Herringbone gears don't push sideways like helical gears, but they aren't as simple to make. This is also the source of the Citron logo.
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ReelBigLizard posted:If the Morris Marina has a fan club, you can bet the PT will too. The pt has a fan club.. there was a yearly meeting with a LOT (600+) of them in niagara falls Ontario... for whatever reason I always ran into the meeting each of the 2 years I waited to turn 21. No matter what these people did to them they were ugly.
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PT Cruisers are the gingivitis of the car world.
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Their name comes from PT Barnum because a sucker is born every minute and they buy PT cruisers
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rscott posted:Their name comes from PT Barnum because a sucker is born every minute and they buy PT cruisers I audibly giggled. bolind posted:This is also the source of the Citron logo. Chevron as well. And the name Chevron.
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PT Cruisers are actually the best retro themed cars because they're the only one that manages to capture the experience of owning an older classic car by constantly breaking down.
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Slavvy posted:Don't get one, you'll be desperately disappointed by how heavy it is and how lacking the top-end is. Also it has a hilarious first gear that gets you up to 100km/h, which is great for stringing together low speed corners but not so great for hill starts or riding slowly. welp, thanks for bursting that bubble.
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1500quidporsche posted:PT Cruisers are actually the best retro themed cars because they're the only one that manages to capture the experience of owning an older classic car by constantly breaking down. To be fair, a properly maintained classic breaks down far less than a Chrysler.
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