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PlaceholderPigeon posted:I mean in retrospect we can better see that adding Rekkles might not fix anything but don't think many people predicted this kind of listless play out of Elements (aside from Wickd's play, but that's business as usual) Plenty of people saw this coming, though? Tabzz was not the problem with Alliance, Rekkles is probably a superior player but adding him does nothing to fix the obvious problems of the team.
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PlaceholderPigeon posted:I mean in retrospect we can better see that adding Rekkles might not fix anything but don't think many people predicted this kind of listless play out of Elements (aside from Wickd's play, but that's business as usual) I know at least three people in this thread said that this exact thing would happen, including me. Edit: I can't even remember why I didn't like Forgiven for some reason, but he seems pretty awesome: http://ask.fm/FORG1VENLoL/answer/123451371322 Sexpansion fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Feb 3, 2015 |
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Sexpansion posted:I know at least three people in this thread said that this exact thing would happen, including me. Reasons why people like Forgiven: he's cocky as gently caress. Reasons why people hate Forgiven: he's cocky as gently caress.
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Obscurity posted:Kicking myself for not picking up any FNC players this split in FLCS I have Huni but didn't start him. 
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I had Yellowstar and didn't start him in week 1 and it cost me a loss (curse you to hell IWD and your 70 points on loving Nunu week.) Never making that mistake again. Steeel-Star for lyfe. I can't decide if I should start TSM or Elements next week. Elements are boring to watch but they make a lot of points because EU games go so long, but TSM has a complete joke of a week. Decisions. Decisions.
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Obscurity posted:Kicking myself for not picking up any FNC players this split in FLCS
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Flipswitch posted:Man I feel stupid now. No one thought FNC would be as good as they are. I really don't think anyone saw it coming.
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Sexpansion posted:No one thought FNC would be as good as they are. I really don't think anyone saw it coming.
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Flipswitch posted:That's true. I'm actually really enjoying EU at the moment compared to last split. It's partially location bias but I've found it so much more interesting to watch because of new FNC and SK. I completely agree. SK and FC are so good right now, I will watch any of their games.
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New fnatic are the most entertaining team in forever, one moment they're dying to jungle creeps and the next they are demolishing people in next level team fights. It owns
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1) Rekkles is like 8 years old. Of course he's immature. 2) "THINGS AREN'T GOING THE WAY WE EXPECTED ABANDON SHIP" is the most hilarious thing 2 weeks into a season. The gulf between gaming PR and sports PR, it is how you say, extreme. Sometimes that works to our advantage, but mostly it reminds me that all of these players are literal children, and some of them are barely half my age. You definitely don't need to be a good player to be a good broadcaster. I don't even think you need to be a good player to be a good color commentator. In Riot's situation I think it helps, because unlike a professional sport the vast majority of your audience can instantly apply tips and tricks (less mechanical stuff like juggling buff aggro, ward spots, etc) but it's not a must-have. My favorite casters are Doa, MonteCristo, Deman, and Joe, and they're all like Silver/Gold players. Riv is infuriating because you need to be good at communicating useful information succinctly. I would never accuse someone of being a bad caster because they weren't a high-skill player. That's one of the least relevant requirements.
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Badfinger posted:1) Rekkles is like 8 years old. Of course he's immature.  You make some good points though. Being constantly connected to the internet (and their fans) also probably doesn't help when some pro players act like little shits half the time.
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I'm missing something I think, but what makes it immature to say that Rekkles is a bit disappointed with Alliance? Like isn't it allowed or fair that he airs his views on it or I am missing something here?
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Flipswitch posted:I'm missing something I think, but what makes it immature to say that Rekkles is a bit disappointed with Alliance? Like isn't it allowed or fair that he airs his views on it or I am missing something here? Disappointed by what? They're 3-1 after 2 weeks. It's totally standard playerspeak to say something along the lines of "we know we have plenty of things to work on", but it's weird to be in 2nd place and be vague and mopey and make a comment about "the organization". Part of that is on me, I guess? I still haven't adjusted to how incredibly volatile teams are season to season, forget year over year. How Rude posted:Yep. e: comparing things to sports, I'm not saying that's how it SHOULD be done, because sports interviews are boring as gently caress and literally anything that's not a compliment to the other team is chalkboard pump up fodder because they're the most competitive, razor-edged people on the planet. There are lessons to be taken to not shoot your mouth off about your own organization less than a month into the season, though. Badfinger fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Feb 3, 2015 |
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Badfinger posted:Disappointed by what? They're 3-1 after 2 weeks.
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I don't think Rekkles is being immature, necessarily, it's just hilarious how obvious it was that getting Rekkles wasn't going to fix any of Elements' issues.
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Wickd and Shook still aren't the most solid players. Shutting down Wickd is as simple as banning Irellia. There's nothing wrong with the rest of the team.
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Sexpansion posted:I don't think Rekkles is being immature, necessarily, it's just hilarious how obvious it was that getting Rekkles wasn't going to fix any of Elements' issues. I'm not even sure what the issues for EL are though, like it just strikes me as a team that should work well, but doesn't. It's easy to scapegoat Wickd but I don't think it's all on him.
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It's just that Rekkles seems to think he's rising above and deserving of better than all of these systemic problems in the teams he's in, when it's rapidly becoming obviously that he's a part of them.
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I feel sorry for rekkles because he could have been taking pills and listening to house music in a spanish mansion with soaz and peke, instead he is playing 12 hours of solo q a day with froggen in dangerously close proximity to shook's horrifying forehead
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Last season someone in Alliance (I forget who) talked about how he felt isolated inside the team and they weren't friends and wouldn't hang out in off time. The members treat it as a job and are super serious about it, which I think contributes to a lack of communication inside the team and I'm confident there's a kind of hierarchy inside and Rekkles may just feel like his input isn't being taken seriously because he's the most junior player.
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Demiurge4 posted:Last season someone in Alliance (I forget who) talked about how he felt isolated inside the team and they weren't friends and wouldn't hang out in off time. The members treat it as a job and are super serious about it, which I think contributes to a lack of communication inside the team and I'm confident there's a kind of hierarchy inside and Rekkles may just feel like his input isn't being taken seriously because he's the most junior player. Tabbz. I'm pretty sure it's partly because the 3 older guys have big egos and are very complacent in their way of doing things and approach, and have a set pattern of socialising. I think it's pretty hard to come in as a younger guy there unless you're very similar to them in personality as well as approach.
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I think Rekkles is just a whiner.
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I, too, have noticed Rekkles is a teenage professional video game player who might not behave like an emotionally mature human adult. While this may manifest in different ways, it is an attribute many LCS pros share with him. Elements being the old boys club it is, it seemed obvious from the start incorporating Rekkles into that whole circle would need to be a mutual effort. As much as this kind of acting out isn't helping, lucky for Elements they have a bunch of time to start figuring this poo poo out.
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Rekkles is one of the hungriest players in League, and he left FNC because the team was mostly veterans who were bored with league and didnt commit enough time to it. He went to ALL expecting it to be better and it turns out that when you go to a team with Froggen it also includes Wickd, Shook, and Nyph. I think their gaming house also hasnt had internet for the past month so its probably a bit jarring expecting to go to a big org full of motivated people and finding only Froggen is really as motivated, the rest treat it like work, and the org can't even get internet. This is like a case study in the grass is always greener, but I can't kill Rekkles over it.
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Nalesh posted:http://esports.garena.ph/newsArticle.php?contentid=00000600&cat=NEWS&subcat=LEAGUE+OF+LEGENDS lol that is absolutely bonkers, what the gently caress
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What is Ask FM and why do pros keep releasing (what should be) fairly confidential information and assessment on it? Tabzz did the same thing last split on the same site. I also think someone should pick Tabzz up, in fact why haven't the Lemondogs reformed?
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Nalesh posted:http://esports.garena.ph/newsArticle.php?contentid=00000600&cat=NEWS&subcat=LEAGUE+OF+LEGENDS We can't have those pesky hormones get in the way of a level playing field in our electronic sports.
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Nalesh posted:http://esports.garena.ph/newsArticle.php?contentid=00000600&cat=NEWS&subcat=LEAGUE+OF+LEGENDS
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To be fair to them I can understand their concern, the NA and EU scenes are getting completely destroyed by all of these 5 lesbian teams, and we have the insane total of one transgender player out of all of LCS and challenger
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Flameingblack posted:Was it China or SEA that had a ban on Gays and people were going to boycott World Championships because of it. (Male) Homosexuality is illegal in Singapore IIRC, but at least according to a friend I have who's Singaporean, it's one of those laws that's not enforced, but that nobody wants to remove because it will make all the crazies come out and start wailing about the moral fabric of the nation and no politician cares that much.
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Always found it odd how few trans players there are in strategy games like sc2 and this, coming from the fighting game scene where openly gay and trans pros are more common and accepted.
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Legislating trans/gay players out of esports is completely and totally insane and I don't understand it at all.
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Nalesh posted:Sounds more like SEA since China's trying hard to appeal to western stuff the last few years. Though I remember some shitstorm about south korea not allowing women to play some games professionally/play them in their own seperate league.
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All I remember from the shitstorm, think it was like, a year ago max, was that either there were different hearthstone leagues for men and women, or women weren't allowed to participate at all.
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Gendered leagues are dumb as hell and not progressive at all. They exist to protect male spaces, not to lift women up. edit: On a different note, could anyone recommend in-depth reading on competitive strategies in League? I want to better understand why teams choose to do things like lane swap, jungle-follow, etc, what the risks of these strategies are, and how they're executed. Really, anything having to do with advanced competitive strategy in League would be helpful. I don't mind if it's your blog. Typical Pubbie fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Feb 3, 2015 |
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