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Aw gently caress I want to buy this game but I'm hesitating hardcore at paying 20 bucks for it, especially at an early access stage. Sales have spoiled me.
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Welp the game is live and no backer key yet...
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Feb 3, 2015 19:20
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Al Borland posted:Welp the game is live and no backer key yet... Retrieve all your humble store keys. Should be listed there.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:22
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Innerguard posted:Retrieve all your humble store keys. Should be listed there. Oh if people backed the game at the lower levels they get their keys now?
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Feb 3, 2015 19:23
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Innerguard posted:Retrieve all your humble store keys. Should be listed there. i backed it in kickstarter. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Oh if people backed the game at the lower levels they get their keys now? Its live!
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Feb 3, 2015 19:24
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Akarshi posted:Aw gently caress I want to buy this game but I'm hesitating hardcore at paying 20 bucks for it, especially at an early access stage. Sales have spoiled me. It's super playable, man. There's some missing classes and I think a dungeon or two, but there is a lot of content here.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:25
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Has anyone beat the "put the heroes in the pot" fight? Seems like there is no way to actually damage the hag - as soon as the pot with a hero in it gets destroyed a new one appears with full health and the very next move another hero goes back in and the pot is the only thing that can be targeted. I've never done more than 1 damage to the empty pot and it has 28 hitpoints. Is this bugged?
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Unzip and Attack posted:Has anyone beat the "put the heroes in the pot" fight? Seems like there is no way to actually damage the hag - as soon as the pot with a hero in it gets destroyed a new one appears with full health and the very next move another hero goes back in and the pot is the only thing that can be targeted. I've never done more than 1 damage to the empty pot and it has 28 hitpoints. You are only supposed to attack the pot when someone is thrown in to free them (and the pot has less HP when someone's in there). Use third and fourth-position attacks to attack the hag directly.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:26
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Is there any strategy better than having a stunner and healer rake the last mob in fight for a full health party? Cause I've only done like five full dungeon sweeps, but have yet to lose a guy.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:26
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Unzip and Attack posted:Has anyone beat the "put the heroes in the pot" fight? Seems like there is no way to actually damage the hag - as soon as the pot with a hero in it gets destroyed a new one appears with full health and the very next move another hero goes back in and the pot is the only thing that can be targeted. I've never done more than 1 damage to the empty pot and it has 28 hitpoints. You have to have attacks that can hit the back row. Hellion's Iron Swan, Crusader's Holy Lance, etc. She actually doesn't have many hit points, so the trick is letting your potted guys boil and nuking her down with long range attacks. GloriousDemon posted:Is there any strategy better than having a stunner and healer rake the last mob in fight for a full health party? Cause I've only done like five full dungeon sweeps, but have yet to lose a guy. That strategy is the best for low levels yeah. It gets harder to pull off at higher levels when monsters have more stun resistance.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:27
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Al Borland posted:i backed it in kickstarter. If you didn't back at Wanderer tier or higher, you'll get your key when the game releases fully, probably around mid-year.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:30
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LizardBeam posted:If you didn't back at Wanderer tier or higher, you'll get your key when the game releases fully, probably around mid-year. That strikes me as kinda stupid if that's how they're doing it, since me (as someone who didn't KS it at all) just bought it but someone who already did buy it (in essence) can't play?
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Feb 3, 2015 19:31
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LizardBeam posted:If you didn't back at Wanderer tier or higher, you'll get your key when the game releases fully, probably around mid-year. wat... So you're saying if i paid 5 dollars more a year ago I'd get the key? Thats kinda insulting...
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Feb 3, 2015 19:32
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I could be wrong, it could have been the 3 day head start for Wanderer+. If not, yeah, it seems like a weird/bad decision. Either way, it should be showing up via Humble Bundle. Just try to retrieve your keys and see if it pops up.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:35
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LizardBeam posted:I could be wrong, it could have been the 3 day head start for Wanderer+. If not, yeah, it seems like a weird/bad decision. Either way, it should be showing up via Humble Bundle. Just try to retrieve your keys and see if it pops up. Bad decision and what do you mean humble bundle poo poo? I don't understand. I don't have kickstarter linked to humble bundle
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Feb 3, 2015 19:37
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Al Borland posted:Bad decision and what do you mean humble bundle poo poo? It's tied to your email account. If you used the same email for both, you can just sign into Humble and in your library, I think, there should be an option to retrieve keys or something. If you're having trouble, there's this link: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/keyresender which should resend it.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:41
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Al Borland posted:Bad decision and what do you mean humble bundle poo poo? If you can verify that you have a key please let me know, I have a couple other friends who are in the same boat -- backed on kickstarter and not sure if they can play now or not.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:42
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Al Borland posted:Bad decision and what do you mean humble bundle poo poo? You don't have to. A lot of KS games use it as a way to distribute keys. If you're owed a key, you get it by asking humble bundle for all keys under the e-mail you Kickstarted with.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:43
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LizardBeam posted:It's tied to your email account. If you used the same email for both, you can just sign into Humble and in your library, I think, there should be an option to retrieve keys or something. If you're having trouble, there's this link: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/keyresender which should resend it. thanks I claimed it I still don't see a key. Honestly this is a bad decision if they're selling it but not giving it to about 3200 people. Its insulting. I guess my definition of release and theirs is different. Back in my day released meant you could buy it. Now we have all this early access bullshit where you can buy the game and its not technically released even though anyone can get it? 
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Feb 3, 2015 19:45
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Oh, and a head's up to anyone who backed high enough to get the soundtrack: that's available through Humble now, too.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:45
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Al Borland posted:thanks I claimed it I still don't see a key. I'd actually suggest complaining to the Developers via twitter or something similar. They're pretty responsive and may step up and help you guys.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:46
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I'd actually suggest complaining to the Developers via twitter or something similar. They're pretty responsive and may step up and help you guys. PLan on politely messaging them that its rather upsetting.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:47
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I thought the Kickstarter was pretty straightforward on whether or not you'd get the game at Early Access or on release.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:48
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S.J. posted:I thought the Kickstarter was pretty straightforward on whether or not you'd get the game at Early Access or on release. I looked at the early acces page it didn't have a "pay 20 dollars to get it" until today. To me thats early access. WHen you can physically buy the game that's release. E: The fact that some schmuck that didnt even know about the game until today can go out and buy it while i have to wait half a year is spit in my eye.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:49
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Al Borland posted:I looked at the early acces page it didn't have a "pay 20 dollars to get it" until today. It isn't, actually. Early Access is basically just paid beta testing, not the actual release, regardless of how well polished the beta is. The 20 dollar and above tiers in the Kickstarter explicitly say you get Early Access, the 15 dollar tier does not.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:51
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S.J. posted:It isn't, actually. Early Access is basically just paid beta testing, not the actual release. The 20 dollar and above tiers in the Kickstarter explicitly say you get Early Access, the 15 dollar tier does not. I'm sorry I guess I"m used to a time where bullshit like paying to play for beta didn't exist. Had I known they were going to do that maybe I would have shelled out five more dollars instead of feeling jilted. like 3,200 other people. Y know its funny cause its like what am I even getitng out of it extra? Jack poo poo.
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Yeah. the $15 tier was labelled full release, while $20/$25 tier was listed as early access. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460250988/darkest-dungeon-by-red-hook-studios I think a lot of people banked on early access being like most early access games (unfinished features, unpolished) and not what they released.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:52
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S.J. posted:It isn't, actually. Early Access is basically just paid beta testing, not the actual release. The 20 dollar and above tiers in the Kickstarter explicitly say you get Early Access, the 15 dollar tier does not. beta access is the one reason I went for the $20 tier rather than the $15 one. It's still better than most KS that lock the beta behind $50+ tiers.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:53
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I wonder if leveling up stun attacks reduces effective stun resistance . I hope it does, because otherwise, it looks everything outside of straight damage dealing is going to be useless in the last dungeons. It seems like every monster is getting 50% or higher resistance on everything on veteran quests.
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Dreylad posted:Yeah. the $15 tier was labelled full release, while $20/$25 tier was listed as early access. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460250988/darkest-dungeon-by-red-hook-studios Yeah that's the thing, this is like the most polished Early Access ever. That said maybe there should be a way for people who backed then to like only pay an additional $5 to start now or something, up their pledges. It is kinda crap that if you backed then you have to buy a new EA copy to play now. clockworkjoe posted:I wonder if leveling up stun attacks reduces effective stun resistance . I hope it does, because otherwise, it looks everything outside of straight damage dealing is going to be useless in the last dungeons. It seems like every monster is getting 50% or higher resistance on everything on veteran quests. I think you're also expected to start using trinkets to specialize -- if you want to stun you have to build for it etc.
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Al Borland posted:I'm sorry I guess I"m used to a time where bullshit like paying to play for beta didn't exist. Had I known they were going to do that maybe I would have shelled out five more dollars instead of feeling jilted. like 3,200 other people. You did know they were going to do that. Or at least, they made it known to you. Early Access is right there on the kickstarter reward tiers. You should probably do more research in the future when purchasing games well before they're released. But like someone said, definitely hit the Devs up to see if you can pay the difference and get an EA key.
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S.J. posted:You did know they were going to do that. Or at least, they made it known to you. Early Access is right there on the kickstarter reward tiers. You should probably do more research in the future when purchasing games well before they're released. Except there are multiple contradictions in their own updates, so can you even consider that accurate? 
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S.J. posted:You did know they were going to do that. Or at least, they made it known to you. Early Access is right there on the kickstarter reward tiers. You should probably do more research in the future when purchasing games well before they're released. Well it also says january is when I should get my key. Its february now. Also early access for BACKERS. IT never said mass public.
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Al Borland posted:Well it also says january is when I should get my key. Its february now. Early Access is a specific thing that allows people to buy a game before it's finished on Steam, not 'earlier than everyone else.' Early Access is by definition available to the public. Kyrosiris posted:Except there are multiple contradictions in their own updates, so can you even consider that accurate? Oh? I didn't realize that. Although I doubt Al was watching their updates.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:58
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Al Borland posted:Well it also says january is when I should get my key. Its february now. What's available right now is half the game, though, so they haven't cheated you. That said I get the frustration but I went for the $20 tier specifically to get access to the game asap.
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Al Borland posted:Well it also says january is when I should get my key. Its february now. Yeah, make your case politely on the Steam forums or via Twitter -- those are the avenues the devs read most. I don't know if they'll respond quickl;y but you have a pretty good chance of getting a response I'd say.
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Demiurge4 posted:What's available right now is half the game, though, so they haven't cheated you. That said I get the frustration but I went for the $20 tier specifically to get access to the game asap. Yeah, like I said, ask the devs if you can pay for the difference.
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Demiurge4 posted:What's available right now is half the game, though, so they haven't cheated you. That said I get the frustration but I went for the $20 tier specifically to get access to the game asap. Well i can get from a business stance why they're doing it, but yeah I do feel cheated and a little jilted. An explanation from them would be appreciated. I have yet to hear back after asking about it from them about an hour ago.
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You paid less money than everyone else to get the game as a reward for backing it, dunno why you'd feel cheated  If you didn't know what any of this stuff entailed when the Kickstarter was happening, why did you spend money on it?
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S.J. posted:Yeah, like I said, ask the devs if you can pay for the difference. They've actually just said that they can do that, yeah. quote:Nomad was for people *not interested in an early access experience. backersupport at redhookgames dot com and we can manually I feel like dogpiling on people who expected EA to be Typical Early Access Garbage instead of, you know, a good polished game that isn't fully finished/debugged is pretty poor form, though, not gonna lie.
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