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The fusion changes are good because the only thing they did is cut out a lot of tedium
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Gamma Nerd posted:imo the problem with SMT4 (well the most annoying one) was too many quality of life improvements. particularly the fusion and saving changes, those completely destroy the difficulty the game might have Well, I didn't include the IV there but IV really is a really easy game I feel.
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Feb 4, 2015 05:49
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SMT IV is really good you loving goons.
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Feb 4, 2015 06:03
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littleorv posted:SMT IV is really good you loving goons. Also minus a few boss fights here and there SMT games aren't exactly that hard. Sure they don't pull punches but they give you every opportunity to smash the enemy's face in just as hard as they smash yours.
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Feb 4, 2015 06:06
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littleorv posted:SMT IV is really good you loving goons.
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Feb 4, 2015 06:12
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it's not my favorite but it's cool still don't like alignment as handled tho
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Feb 4, 2015 06:14
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littleorv posted:SMT IV is really good you loving goons.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Also minus a few boss fights here and there SMT games aren't exactly that hard. Sure they don't pull punches but they give you every opportunity to smash the enemy's face in just as hard as they smash yours. I mean if you know what you're doing SMT gives you the tools to curbstomp everything. So long as you actually know how to use them.
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Feb 4, 2015 06:23
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Persona 3 Movie: Part 3 trailer with subs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhstCrt5bRA At this point, is the only thing I'm interested from the Persona series.
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Feb 4, 2015 06:29
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FauxGateau posted:I mean if you know what you're doing SMT gives you the tools to curbstomp everything. So long as you actually know how to use them. For example: charge + myriad of arrows = easy win against most bosses. This is not a complaint it's actually really awesome.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Persona 3 Movie: Part 3 trailer with subs Wow this sure looks like the Persona 3 story, I guess. Now, I haven't seen any of the previous 2 because I don't care enough to yet again experience p3's amazing cast, but is it just the main story or do they work in the S. Link poo poo like the P4 anime did?
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Wow this sure looks like the Persona 3 story, I guess. Now, I haven't seen any of the previous 2 because I don't care enough to yet again experience p3's amazing cast, but is it just the main story or do they work in the S. Link poo poo like the P4 anime did? I've only seen the first part but this rendition of Burn My Dread is my favourite (it's from the movie if that wasn't obvious). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=63O7X2jeWFM
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Also minus a few boss fights here and there SMT games aren't exactly that hard. Sure they don't pull punches but they give you every opportunity to smash the enemy's face in just as hard as they smash yours. The fact it doesn't pull its punches is definitely part of what makes SMT 'hard', and a big part of its appeal, I think. In most other JRPGs, I find that they can be very lenient and forgiving for most of the game; if your mistake isn't colossal, you can probably still power through, it's just not going to go as smoothly. They can get tough later on if they want to, and at that point your strategic flaws will cause death, without much room to mitigate. I recently finished Bravely Default, and when that game wants to get hard then you will die immediately unless you're prepared. The strength of SMT's difficulty is that it's always like that. It will punish you for your mistakes immediately, and liberally. But with SMT's demon skills/weakness systems being what they are, your strategies are constantly shifting anyway. It leads to an element of compromise; compare to Final Fantasy, where once you have a strategy, it's always there, and will never really go away. In SMT, you're likely to never face two bosses with the same team, and building a perfect demon is usually quite out of the question. So you can never have a perfect strategy, you just need to keep improvising and improving. And if you gently caress that up, you WILL die.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Wow this sure looks like the Persona 3 story, I guess. Now, I haven't seen any of the previous 2 because I don't care enough to yet again experience p3's amazing cast, but is it just the main story or do they work in the S. Link poo poo like the P4 anime did? They very loosely work the social link stuff in. Cleretic posted:The fact it doesn't pull its punches is definitely part of what makes SMT 'hard', and a big part of its appeal, I think. In most other JRPGs, I find that they can be very lenient and forgiving for most of the game; if your mistake isn't colossal, you can probably still power through, it's just not going to go as smoothly. They can get tough later on if they want to, and at that point your strategic flaws will cause death, without much room to mitigate. I recently finished Bravely Default, and when that game wants to get hard then you will die immediately unless you're prepared. Yeah, what I think is one of SMT's strength is that it will hit you hard if you let it but it gives you the tools to get around that. It is 'hard' in that it will kill you but not hard in that it is excessively demanding.
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I don't like how every boss past Medusa goes down in 2 or 3 turns. That's my main complaint with SMT4.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Persona 3 Movie: Part 3 trailer with subs
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Running around in the city districts was cool in SMT4, but it was pretty annoying that monsters were always crawling up your rear end so you can't really stop and properly look around. Having Macca Beam in a game where money is super scarce is pretty lame though!
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WrightOfWay posted:I don't like how every boss past Medusa goes down in 2 or 3 turns. That's my main complaint with SMT4. I like it in theory but I wish there was more work put into making it happen. if you had to really customize your team and then you stepped all over a boss it would feel satisfying. SMTIV ran into the problem of not really needing that. TurnipFritter posted:Having Macca Beam in a game where money is super scarce is pretty lame though! The Macca Beam is easily the worst attack in the game.
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Dehry posted:Persona Stalker Club: Nippon Budokan Special I thought for a moment this said "Persona Strip Club" and got excited that they'd announced a new game. The_Frag_Man fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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Feb 4, 2015 11:17
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Top 25 Persona music: http://p-ch.jp/ Number 25: Signs of Love 24: Snowflakes. 23: Heartbeat, Heartbreak. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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Feb 4, 2015 11:31
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Do you guys want to know what Persona songs Japan really, really likes the most? Of course you do. 25) Signs of love 24) Snowflakes 23) Heartbeat, Heartbreak 22) Fog 21) Long Way 20) deep breath deep breath 19) Poem for Everyone's Souls 18) Time 17) The Almighty 16) A New World Fool 15) Shadow World 14) Key Plus Words 13) Brand New Days 12) Maze of Life 11) Your Affection 10) Pursuing my True Self 09) Time to Make History 08) The Battle for Everyone's Souls 07) Heaven 06) Heartful Cry 05) Mass Destruction 04) Nevermore 03) Reach out to the Truth 02) Burn my Dread 01) Memories of You No I'll Face Myself. Japan is dead to me.
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GimmickMan posted:No I'll Face Myself. Japan is dead to me. What about Burn my Dread -last battle- or Backside of the TV?? 
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Feb 4, 2015 13:16
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That list doesn't have Let Butterflies Spread Until The Dawn, so i refuse to aknowledge it.
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Feb 4, 2015 13:21
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Freak Futanari posted:That list doesn't have Let Butterflies Spread Until The Dawn, so i refuse to aknowledge it. That's fine, people refuse to acknowledge the first two Persona games 
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Where's Light the Fire Up in the Night? Memories of You is like my least favorite Persona song, but I guess in Japan they aren't naturally allergic to J-pop. Actually #1 on the list should be Satomi Tadashi Pharmacy Song. E: And #2-5 or so are the goofy remixes of it from Persona 2. What was the result of the P4 character poll? Mostly just curious if it is true that the Japanese fans dislike Marie as much as we do. asvodel fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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Feb 4, 2015 13:24
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Kurtofan posted:That's fine, people refuse to acknowledge the first two Persona games
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mass destruction and burn my dread are not high enough
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asvodel posted:Actually #1 on the list should be Satomi Tadashi Pharmacy Song. That or The Round Sun.
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GimmickMan posted:01) Memories of You Good.
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I disagree with this list therefore it is dumb and all who took part in it are also dumb.
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Golden Goat posted:I disagree with this list therefore it is dumb and all who took part in it are also dumb.
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On the plus side the character poll had the following: 4) Yu 3) Adachi 2) Chie 1) Yosuke Yosuke is confirmed to be the best girl. Alabaster White posted:What about Burn my Dread -last battle- or Backside of the TV?? The lack of I'll Face Myself was the last straw.
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Memories of you is the best poo poo ever so I'm glad it's recognized as such, but yeah. No light the fire up, Ill Face Myself (Reincarnation), or Wiping All Out. Come on guys.
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littleorv posted:SMT IV is really good you loving goons. also Golden Goat posted:I disagree with this list therefore it is dumb and all who took part in it are also dumb.
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Eh, I'm just happy A New World Fool is up there, even if Wiping All Out and I'll Face Myself -Battle- are some pretty glaring exclusions.
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Reach out for the Strewth at #3 is the Stockholm syndrome speaking. Hearing the first lines over and over again in every battle made people think they can't live without it.
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No mention of Maya or Innocent Sin's map themes?Golden Goat posted:I disagree with this list therefore it is dumb and all who took part in it are also dumb.
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GimmickMan posted:On the plus side the character poll had the following: where did this sudden yosuke love come from
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Reminder to those just browsing: about 50 minutes from now will be the first ??? presentation, likely followed by the Midnight Channel. Also, it's good to see I didn't miss anything last night.
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Poonerman posted:where did this sudden yosuke love come from he was weirdly "no homo" around kanji. i hate him.
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