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I jsut really hope that this Daredevil doesn't start with Matt killing badguys like the Affleck version did.
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The brief shot of a police car in the background (through an alleyway) showed a blue NYPD car and the cops were wearing light blue shirts. Those cars and shirts have not been used since the 90's. So either this is a flashback in general (likely) or Marvel kept a nice secret about the setting of this show? Which would make sense because Hell's Kitchen hasn't been very dangerous the past decade or so.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:32
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TwoPair posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but DC's doing the dumb thing where Batman and Superman can't show up in a show because they're in a movie and the fragile populace just CANNOT COMPREHEND two actors being Batman at the same time, aren't they? So are they just gonna have Nightwing and Oracle tiptoe around their relation to Batman? That'll be interesting/fun to watch. It's especially annoying since Harrison Wells' future newspaper thing has a smaller headline saying something about a Queen Consolidated/Wayne Enterprises joint venture. Batman clearly exists in the GA/Flash TV-verse (in the same way Hal Jordan and the Green Lanterns probably do), but perhaps he won't show up or no one has heard of him yet.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:34
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GraphX-Man posted:It's especially annoying since Harrison Wells' future newspaper thing has a smaller headline saying something about a Queen Consolidated/Wayne Enterprises joint venture. Batman clearly exists in the GA/Flash TV-verse (in the same way Hal Jordan and the Green Lanterns probably do), but perhaps he won't show up or no one has heard of him yet. If Supergirl exists in the Arrowverse like they have been teasing in interviews, that would go a long way in cementing who exists where, since I don't see how they do Supergirl without either explaining Superman or going with a weird story where he never landed on Earth or something. I'd be totally happy and ok with things not lining up like in the comics if they just go hog wild and clearly define the TVU as a specific Alternate Earth. Give it a number, and just go for it. And by go for it, explain WHY things are different.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:37
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I figure that, since they also have Jimmy Olson on the show, Supergirl is going to occupy the place Superman does normally. Meaning, Last Daughter of Krypton and so on.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:46
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ToastyPotato posted:The brief shot of a police car in the background (through an alleyway) showed a blue NYPD car and the cops were wearing light blue shirts. Those cars and shirts have not been used since the 90's. I've seen a lot of people saying this, but MCU Hell's Kitchen doesn't have to resemble IRL Hell's Kitchen in anyway.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:57
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ToastyPotato posted:The brief shot of a police car in the background (through an alleyway) showed a blue NYPD car and the cops were wearing light blue shirts. Those cars and shirts have not been used since the 90's. That doesn't really bug me much, though. The MCU doesn't have to be 1 for 1 analogous to ours, so Hell's Kitchen still being a dangerous shithole in that universe is fine. Plus, who knows what effect the Hulk and Abomination trashing Harlem followed by Loki trashing another large portion of the city has had. It's not a stretch to believe certain sections of New York are far different after all of that destruction.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:58
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ToastyPotato posted:The brief shot of a police car in the background (through an alleyway) showed a blue NYPD car and the cops were wearing light blue shirts. Those cars and shirts have not been used since the 90's. It could be a scene at the death of Matt's dad.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:00
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That Daredevil outfit is so terrible; I really hope it's a pre-costume cobbled-together thing. Underarmor longsleeve, black slacks... yikes.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:07
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I desperately hope they're going for the "Did a blind man design your costume?" joke.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:09
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Ville Valo posted:That Daredevil outfit is so terrible; I really hope it's a pre-costume cobbled-together thing. The rumour is that he may not get the red costume til the finale.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:13
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bobkatt013 posted:It could be a scene at the death of Matt's dad. That's what I figured it most likely is.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:14
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Dacap posted:The rumour is that he may not get the red costume til the finale. I wish they'd take the lesson from Flash and put them in the costume, with the superhero moniker, right from the start.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:20
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Ville Valo posted:I wish they'd take the lesson from Flash and put them in the costume, with the superhero moniker, right from the start. He might have the yellow costume for a bit. That suit looks like the one from Man without fear.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:22
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Ville Valo posted:I wish they'd take the lesson from Flash and put them in the costume, with the superhero moniker, right from the start. To be fair, they called him the Blur for a few episodes. But yeah, I do appreciate The Flash bucking the stupid trend set by freaking SMALLVILLE of all things that even The Arrow decided to follow.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:23
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Ville Valo posted:That Daredevil outfit is so terrible; I really hope it's a pre-costume cobbled-together thing. They didn't make it up it's from the Man Without Fear run aka Daredevil's origin story aka what the TV show is about. 
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Feb 4, 2015 20:26
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Sorry, but that bandanna looks cool as hell. Also, let's not pretend Daredevil's standard costume doesn't look goofy.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:32
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Red Batman.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:35
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zoux posted:Red Batman. Needs more armor 
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Feb 4, 2015 20:43
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zoux posted:I've seen a lot of people saying this, but MCU Hell's Kitchen doesn't have to resemble IRL Hell's Kitchen in anyway. In Welcome Back, Frank the Punisher is really mad at Giuliani for cleaning up Hell's Kitchen.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:55
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bobkatt013 posted:Needs more armor I'm hearing this in Judge Doom's voice.
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Feb 4, 2015 21:18
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Supergirl isn't part of the Arrowverse, Superman already exists in her show's world.
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Feb 4, 2015 21:32
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Angry Walrus posted:Supergirl isn't part of the Arrowverse, Superman already exists in her show's world. Where did you hear this?
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Feb 4, 2015 23:32
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XboxPants posted:Where did you hear this? The official logline of the show mentions she has a famous cousin. And we've been told Superman doesn't exist in the CW verse so people are just putting two and two together really. "“Born on the planet Krypton, Kara Zor-El escaped amid its destruction years ago. Since arriving on Earth, she’s been hiding the powers she shares with her famous cousin. But now at age 24, she decides to embrace her superhuman abilities and be the hero she was always meant to be.”
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Feb 4, 2015 23:44
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Deadpool posted:The official logline of the show mentions she has a famous cousin. And we've been told Superman doesn't exist in the CW verse so people are just putting two and two together really. Whether or not it's in the Arrowverse, I think it's a bad call to have Clark exist on that show. Partly because DC/WB will never let him appear, so what's the point? And if he's never going to appear, it's much more powerful, and contemporary and original to have HER be the first. Just make your Superman show, but with a lady as the lead. Hell, have Lucy Lane as a junior copy-writer who becomes Kara/Linda's best pal.
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Feb 4, 2015 23:47
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I don't think that longline means Superman is around in the universe of the show. They're saying this character is the cousin of the famous character you've heard of.
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greatn posted:I don't think that longline means Superman is around in the universe of the show. They're saying this character is the cousin of the famous character you've heard of. That's how I read it the first time I saw that paragraph, but now that people are pointing it out I'm not sure. "More famous cousin" could easily mean "more famous in OUR world" rather than "more famous in the world of the show", let's hope that's what it is. Gaz-L posted:Whether or not it's in the Arrowverse, I think it's a bad call to have Clark exist on that show. Partly because DC/WB will never let him appear, so what's the point? And if he's never going to appear, it's much more powerful, and contemporary and original to have HER be the first. Just make your Superman show, but with a lady as the lead. Hell, have Lucy Lane as a junior copy-writer who becomes Kara/Linda's best pal. Yeah, that sucks if that's what they're doing and we get another weird Birds of Prey situation. (I didn't actually watch that show but from what I understand that had a similar & stupid treatment of Batman)
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Feb 5, 2015 00:21
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Also the Arrowverse producer who also produces Supergirl has been asked multiple times whether or not it is in the same universe and he has never given a straight answer that I have seen, which makes it seem like they are currently leaving the door open at the moment.
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Feb 5, 2015 00:21
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What it's going to come down to is the first script they get that has a real good idea that either puts it in the Arrow TV universe or explicitly makes it not.
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Feb 5, 2015 00:22
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The thing I read about Supergirl's first villain The Lumberjack was that he had fought Superman before.
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Feb 5, 2015 00:35
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Klungar posted:The thing I read about Supergirl's first villain The Lumberjack was that he had fought Superman before. Unless it's a major plot point, that can be fixed pretty easily with a dubbed line or two in post.
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Feb 5, 2015 00:57
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I hope they take inspiration from the casting on the CW shows and cast Michael C Hall as that villain.
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Feb 5, 2015 01:04
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e X posted:I figure that, since they also have Jimmy Olson on the show, Supergirl is going to occupy the place Superman does normally. Meaning, Last Daughter of Krypton and so on. This would be really cool.
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XboxPants posted:Where did you hear this? It's in the leaked sides actresses have used to audition. Superman exists in that world but all points to him existing off-screen.
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Yannick_B posted:It's in the leaked sides actresses have used to audition. Superman exists in that world but all points to him existing off-screen. http://collider.com/supergirl-tv-series-auditions/ (the videos have been removed but the article has summaries) Well that's some kinda bullshit. Interest just dropped way down. (though to be fair you can only judge so far based on a premise, if it has good writers and actors and directors and producers it'll be a good show regardless)
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Feb 5, 2015 05:47
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ToastyPotato posted:To be fair, they called him the Blur for a few episodes. But yeah, I do appreciate The Flash bucking the stupid trend set by freaking SMALLVILLE of all things that even The Arrow decided to follow. The naming thing ties pretty deeply into the story in Arrow though. The Hood/Vigilante wasn't The Arrow yet , who probably isn't what the Green Arrow will become. The Hood was out for revenge and killing indiscriminately, The Arrow tries to protect people and only kills from time to time. Also, he's bad at swordfighting.
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Decius posted:The naming thing ties pretty deeply into the story in Arrow though. The Hood/Vigilante wasn't The Arrow yet , who probably isn't what the Green Arrow will become. The Hood was out for revenge and killing indiscriminately, The Arrow tries to protect people and only kills from time to time. Also, he's bad at swordfighting. But in giving up his blood lust he has gained the ability to survive being stabbed all the way through the chest and kicked off a mountain, in the snow, wearing only pants, by doing nothing more than drinking moldy tea and applying bandages, so he has that going for him.
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Feb 5, 2015 07:10
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Chest wounds, falls and exposure are all survivable. If you add 3 survivable things together that makes it even more survivable. It's just math.
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Feb 5, 2015 14:22
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ToastyPotato posted:But in giving up his blood lust he has gained the ability to survive being stabbed all the way through the chest and kicked off a mountain, in the snow, wearing only pants, by doing nothing more than drinking moldy tea and applying bandages, so he has that going for him.
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They've started shooting on AKA Jessica Jones So not shocking or relevatory or anything but that's what Jess is going to look like.
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