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greatn posted:The truth is he never actually fought Ras Al Ghul, he was in an Oculus Rift the whole time. Fuuuuuuuuck you.
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Aphrodite posted:Okay yeah sure, let's make the thing we were just complaining isn't even being explained into a racial thing with details we made up. We don't need to make a big deal of it, it's such a minor element, but it kinda is a racial thing. The reason it hasn't been explained at all is most likely because they felt "hey she's Asian" was a good enough explanation for any homebrew medical miracles she's able to pull off. You likely wouldn't see this plot thread with an Irishman or a Frenchman or a Russian or a New Zealander. See Also: Yao Fei.
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He was playing an Australian but yeah they did do it with a kiwi.
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hcreight posted:...spoilertv... How did I not know about this site? Thank you!
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Habibi posted:"Hey woah I wasn't stabbed down ther- I guess Oliver got a happy ending after all...
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Xtanstic posted:It's really amusing how some characters notice the tiniest discrepancies like Sin or Barry's Dad but some remain in the dark like with Iris or Lance. My favorite part of this was how Lance actually showed up under both categories this episode, instantly recognizing a costumed Roy, while showing utter shock & bewilderment that Sara wasn't Sara despite how obvious that should have been. Blind spots!  A bunch of other random comments: I really like that both Arrow and Flash are starting to step up and become public figures to their city right now, it's a really fun element of these origin stories. I guess something about how Ollie's speech was shot was a little "meh", but it was still a fun moment. Young Tommy was a horrible actor and I hope he never comes back. Is it me or is it odd that they never got into what the hell was going on with Brick's apparent superpowers? Should we take that as a sign that he'll be showing up again? He is a fun badguy. Someone else commented that now that Ollie is back and Brick is dealt with, we're pretty much right back at where we started, and they thought that was lame. But I think I actually like that. Because they're in the same situation, but the characters themselves have grown a lot. Roy & Laurel have both become way more capable, which is great. I'd say Laurel is maybe up there are Season 1 Roy level - "Good at taking a beating and not much else" - which is still way above where she started! Dig has two guns now. The team is more personally committed as well, since they had to come to face with why they're doing this and decide it is for themselves and not just to be Oliver's lackey, even Felicity. Wildcat's willing to jump back into the game if need be (and still alive?), Merlyn may be on the verge of trying to start to be an anti-hero, and Felicity & Roy are making steady progress and may be close to debuting another new hero in the Atom. And Oliver has seen what he's going to be fighting against, and is trying a new approach, working with Merlyn to become a more ruthless fighter. They're facing the same enemy, but Ra's isn't facing the same group anymore. (also yes I'm exaggerating about Laurel, she can clearly beat up a mook or two) XboxPants fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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XboxPants posted:That makes it even worse, even more stereotype-y writing. Hi I actually live in Korea and it's a common thing for Koreans to learn that Americans usually don't. The only one being racist here is you.
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XboxPants posted:My favorite part of this was how Lance actually showed up under both categories this episode, instantly recognizing a costumed Roy, while showing utter shock & bewilderment that Sara wasn't Sara despite how obvious that should have been. Blind spots! Yeah me and my brother burst out laughing when Lance instantly recognized Roy. Him mocking Arsenal was a nice touch. I've honestly been waiting for a grand public Arrow proclamation for a whole season now. I kinda expected it would go hand in hand with his face turn in season 2 so I'm surprised it's taken Ollie this long. In my mind, Brick's superpowers is just like the old Stargate Goa'uld personal shields. Fast moving bullets are repelled but slower moving arrows and knives will get through just fine. I wonder where they're gonna go with the Wildcat subplot. Maybe him getting beaten up will force Laurel to get some training elsewhere. Also regarding the CTV preview, did anyone notice a quick clip of Laurel fighting what looked to be Sara? Or some other Black Canary?. I'm too lazy to look for the clip and too scared to google for spoilers.
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Xtanstic posted:I wonder where they're gonna go with the Wildcat subplot. Maybe him getting beaten up will force Laurel to get some training elsewhere. Also regarding the CTV preview, did anyone notice a quick clip of Laurel fighting what looked to be Sara? Or some other Black Canary?. I'm too lazy to look for the clip and too scared to google for spoilers. Regarding your spoiler, that actually gets answered in the American preview.
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BouncingBuckyBalls posted:Why are people armed with automatic rifles not using them. Best part was that Diggle had a machine gun. Could have probably wasted half of them right there. Spergatory posted:Man, something about this season is just not landing with me at all. Yea same. Also really not digging the trying to redeem Merlyn thing. I like that this whole thing could have been avoided if Oliver wasn't a dumbass and decided to declare that Merlyn was under his protection just in case Ras killed Sara. Should have let the league kill his rear end 
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King of Solomon posted:Regarding your spoiler, that actually gets answered in the American preview. Thanks. It's hilarious to me how completely different both versions are. They generally are fairly similar.
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Timett posted:It was both that they didn't explain or even hint at how he was resurrected and also that they downplay the fact that he loving DIED and act like he was just mostly dead that bother me. Probably because he did not actually die and was only nearly dead.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Probably because he did not actually die and was only nearly dead. Ras you are a lovely assassin. Can't even kill him right. 
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Yea same. Also really not digging the trying to redeem Merlyn thing.
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Feb 5, 2015 06:59
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Because Barrowman is best when he's chewing the scenery and twirling his mustache.
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I would've been down for "Nah, still bad." *kills Brick*
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This was one of this season's better episodes, but it was still pretty silly. It's been weeks and the League hasn't done poo poo to Merlyn except send a lovely DJ to spy on Thea. Brick was also a pretty underwhelming villain that wasn't really explained/explored. The mob scene was pretty dumb too.
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Vinnie Jones is wonderful and I want him in every episode of everything, forever.
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DoctorWhat posted:Vinnie Jones is wonderful and I want him in every episode of everything, forever. Watch Galavant 
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Rarity posted:Watch Galavant DoctorWhat posted:They won't get a season 2 but imagine I fit "vinnie jones" into the meter instead of Timothy Omundson.
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It was a bit weird that so many characters were amazing at figuring out people's secret identities like Lance with Roy, Wildcat with Laurel and kinda Sin with Laurel - but then the Arrow appears on TV and returns to the city at the exact time Oliver Queen does. Aaaaaaagain. So dumb. Xtanstic posted:This fight was ridiculous on TDKR and remains ridiculous on Arrow VagueRant fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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Feb 5, 2015 10:56
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I used to like Felicity but now that Laurel is becoming a bad rear end it seems like they just moved all the whiney melodrama poo poo over to her. I realize it's a CW show but it still sucks.
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I was all against Felicity's negativity until Diggle met with Merlyn and reminded me of all the terrible stuff he's done and made a pretty good case for having nothing to do with him - in fact I now think they should kill him. Not actually sure what Merlyn's endgame is in all this either.
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VagueRant posted:I was all against Felicity's negativity until Diggle met with Merlyn and reminded me of all the terrible stuff he's done and made a pretty good case for having nothing to do with him - in fact I now think they should kill him. Survival seems to be his ultimate goal. Maybe bonding with Thea too, but mostly not getting killed by the League.
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Feb 5, 2015 11:16
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At this point, working with Merlyn is like letting the man who dissolves bodies for the mob babysit because where are we going to find someone else at 7 PM on a Friday?
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Feb 5, 2015 11:36
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I don't remember the details of Merlyn's back-up video, but just kill Merlyn and give his body over the to al-Ghuls. They're well aware that Oliver was lying the first time around. Do that instead of this nonsensical training idea.
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Feb 5, 2015 11:39
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The way this is going, by next season this show will only be about Oliver and Felicity, each episode will be them declaring their love for each other, but that they cannot be together for "reasons".
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The thing Oliver's going to have to sacrifice is his sister. To defeat Ra's, prevent him from loving up Starling City, he has to hand Malcolm over to him. And she'll never forgive him.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Probably because he did not actually die and was only nearly dead. Which would be even worse
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Oliver isn't just teaming up with Merlyn for expediency, he believes he can be saved. He's really not being a dick this time. He probably should have at least said as much to Felicity, but she hardly let him get a word in edgewise.
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If it were not for the Oliver-R'as fight, I'd put this arc below the Huntress arc. Oliver would have been dead even if Barry were standing at the foot of the mountain ready to carry him to the best trauma center in the world. Oliver should have died and been resurrected through whatever mystical means the writers wanted to use, or at the very least he should have returned to Starling City still severely injured. The fact that you can fight one of the most deadly men in the world and recover as if you had the flu - with tea and bed rest - is the silliest thing the show has done, and makes R'as look incompetent. The road map for the rest of the season doesn't look promising either. Teaming up to defeat R'as and the League when he puts the city under siege shouldn't happen this early, unless Oliver will be fighting meta-humans all of season four. It's going to look pretty dumb having a random drug kingpin/thief beat up Oliver and get away early on in each episode when Oliver is going to go toe to toe with one of the most skilled combatants alive.
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Lycus posted:I don't remember the details of Merlyn's back-up video, but just kill Merlyn and give his body over the to al-Ghuls. They're well aware that Oliver was lying the first time around. Do that instead of this nonsensical training idea. He can't, that will make Felicity cry.
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Lycus posted:I don't remember the details of Merlyn's back-up video, but just kill Merlyn and give his body over the to al-Ghuls. They're well aware that Oliver was lying the first time around. Do that instead of this nonsensical training idea. Oliver is working under the not all together misguided idea that the league will also want Thea dead for Sara's murder. So even if he hands over Merlyn's corpse it doesn't solve that problem.
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howe_sam posted:Oliver is working under the not all together misguided idea that the league will also want Thea dead for Sara's murder. So even if he hands over Merlyn's corpse it doesn't solve that problem. Well if you turn in Merlyn's corpse, Thea would be in the clear as he can't show them the video of Sara's murder.
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Timett posted:Which would be even worse That's not in fact possible. It does not actually get any worse than Oliver literally dying and then being resurrected offscreen, EFFORTLESSLY by means of something which is never explained. So out of all the possibilities, the least bad one is that clearly, he never died in the first place.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:That's not in fact possible. Ras Al Ghul: World's worst executioner TyrantWD posted:Well if you turn in Merlyn's corpse, Thea would be in the clear as he can't show them the video of Sara's murder. No but you see they can't kill Merlyn because he could have sent copies to all his contacts who would turn it over on his death or some other thing that ends up with Oliver and Merlyn working together.. Furthermore,
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:It does not actually get any worse than Oliver literally dying and then being resurrected offscreen Yeah it would be pretty bad if that had happened.
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Aphrodite posted:He can't, that will make Felicity cry. Felicity's complaints are pretty legitimate.
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