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Fader Movitz posted:The healthcare problem wouldn't really be solved by a centralisation, the cause of the problem is underfunding and incompetent governance i.e. New public management. The damage done by New public management to the public healthcare and education cannot really be understated. While the public sector was far from efficient and bloated in the 80s, and new public management got some ideas that are worth considering, a lot of it was just ideological crap that did more harm than good. Problem is NPM (in general) and Lean (in particular) basically (most?) often translates to “being structurally and clinically undermanned”, which, while not so bad in the private sector, is obviously loving terrible and poo poo-dumb in regards to public health care. Plus it feeds staffing agency shenanigans like crazy.
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:Problem is NPM (in general) and Lean (in particular) basically (most?) often translates to “being structurally and clinically undermanned”, which, while not so bad in the private sector, is obviously loving terrible and poo poo-dumb in regards to public health care. Plus it feeds staffing agency shenanigans like crazy. Pretty much, yeah. Ivar Arpi wrote a reportage regarding Migrationsverkets implementation of Lean and the impression was that it was more important to get more people processed rather than to do a good job. It says more about the implementation of Lean there, than Lean in general, since quality is a very big part of Lean and not only processing large numbers.
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Fader Movitz posted:The healthcare problem wouldn't really be solved by a centralisation, the cause of the problem is underfunding and incompetent governance i.e. New public management. The damage done by New public management to the public healthcare and education cannot really be understated. While the public sector was far from efficient and bloated in the 80s, and new public management got some ideas that are worth considering, a lot of it was just ideological crap that did more harm than good. Yeah i figured this. I'm very curious since i realized i don't really know a lot about this stuff. Just heard a lot of second hand stuff about education and healthcare. I agree with you that many problems would just evaporate if they got money to do stuff like hire more people and keep stuff clean. The way karolinska no longer can afford specialist healthcare is absurd.
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Cardiac posted:It says more about the implementation of Lean there, than Lean in general, since quality is a very big part of Lean and not only processing large numbers.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Not a big expert on Lean, but the short presentation of it I've seen just focused on cutting down on wasteful processes based on unfounded assumptions (the example given being preparing both a coke and a jug of coffee, and then having the other person ask for water.) I'm guessing Lean just keeps getting expanded upon, in a never-ending attempt at continuously improving "efficiency"? My wife have done the black belt course in Lean Six Sigma, so I have heard a lot. It is as you say aimed at improving effiency by minimizing wasteful processes, which you identify using statistics. Quality is a very big factor in it, since you want to have an efficient process while keeping the quality. The automobile industry is very big in Lean, and you can't really accuse them of having bad quality. The problem is not Lean, rather the problem is in how it is implemented. (Now I sound like a commie  ) The solution that applies to one type of industry is not the same solution for other types of industry, and of course the same goes for governmental processes.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Not a big expert on Lean, but the short presentation of it I've seen just focused on cutting down on wasteful processes based on unfounded assumptions (the example given being preparing both a coke and a jug of coffee, and then having the other person ask for water.) I'm guessing Lean just keeps getting expanded upon, in a never-ending attempt at continuously improving "efficiency"? Good implementation of Lean involves founded assumptions. It's really the same as most philosophies - people will adopt it and instead of actually doing what it says they'll change the parts they don't like and claim that they're following the orthodoxy.
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lilljonas posted:Schools are run by the kommun, not the landsting. The landsting is mostly in charge of healthcare and certain infrastructure. Sidenote on this, haven't always been the case, see: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kommunaliseringen_av_skolan_i_Sverige and to a lesser note http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friskolereformen Basically, Göran Persson transferred the schools from national level to the communes in 89. Shortly thereafter, Carl Bildt oversaw the friskola reform, which paved the way for privately run schools (including being allowed to be run by hedgefunds! Yay!). Teacher union has always been against the decentralization, saying that it will increase gaps and make the school level unequal. Guess what happened the last 20 years...
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Groda posted:Försörjningkrav in the news I'm very hazy on the details of it myself, but I thought the current implementation basically said you had to have a job and somewhere to live in order to get visas for your family? Or something like that? What does Kinberg Batra want to add to it, in practical terms? The article doesn't really say. I doubt the average Swede knows much about the minutiae about immigration rules. I'd say people either don't really care about the details or they believe we just let everyone in. Also, what do you mean by "qualifying" for it, you mean like have it apply to you/your family so that you need to prove things to Migrationsverket? White Rock posted:Sidenote on this, haven't always been the case, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRK-hSKgE7M Doktor Kosmos posted:Medborgaren valde mellan Skola 118 där José gick loss med värsta toadoppningen (och annat smått och gott) TheFluff fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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TheFluff posted:I'm very hazy on the details of it myself, but I thought the current implementation basically said you had to have a job and somewhere to live in order to get visas for your family? Or something like that? What does Kinberg Batra want to add to it, in practical terms? The article doesn't really say. I doubt the average Swede knows much about the minutiae about immigration rules. I'd say people either don't really care about the details or they believe we just let everyone in. The current implementation is so full of holes that it is basically without effect. There are a lot of exemptions in it, so only affects a few percent. White Rock posted:Basically, Göran Persson transferred the schools from national level to the communes in 89. Shortly thereafter, Carl Bildt oversaw the friskola reform, which paved the way for privately run schools (including being allowed to be run by hedgefunds! Yay!). Teacher union has always been against the decentralization, saying that it will increase gaps and make the school level unequal. Guess what happened the last 20 years... Well, one of the teacher unions was against it, the other was not. One of them sold themselves out to S. Also, the transfer from national level to commune is an event entirely separate from friskolereformen. We had a number of privately run schools before that like Sigtuna och Bladins, but they didn't get any finance from the state. Blaming the unequality of the schools entirely on the privatization is incredible naive.
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here's a good illustration of why pr-people vetting politicians is a bad thing: http://www.nrk.no/norge/arbeiderpartiet-fastholder-landets-strengeste-asylbarn-politikk_-men...-1.12191940 shes slippery like an eel...
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 http://nationalbolsjevikisksamlingssida.blogspot.fi/ best party
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TheFluff posted:I'm very hazy on the details of it myself, but I thought the current implementation basically said you had to have a job and somewhere to live in order to get visas for your family? Or something like that? What does Kinberg Batra want to add to it, in practical terms? The article doesn't really say. I doubt the average Swede knows much about the minutiae about immigration rules. I'd say people either don't really care about the details or they believe we just let everyone in. Yeah, by qualify i mean be subject to the rules. I haven't checked what the Utlänningslagen, so I've had to gone with Migrationsverkets published policy, but it is an absolute joke to claim that there is any kind of försörjningskrav in practice. Basically, the only people in the immigration system to whom it'll apply are the sponsors of:
In my case, I had all my ducks in a row, but my PUT was too new and my apartment too small. :-/ That article I'd linked to is pretty sparse, but FP and M have been out on the Op/Eds the past two weeks with http://www.dn.se/nyheter/politik/fp-vill-skarpa-krav-pa-invandrare/ http://www.dn.se/debatt/effektivare-integration-med-forsorjnings-och-sprakkrav/ I appreciate finally seeing some focus placed on permanent residence status for once. Neither Swedish immigration law nor policy have very much to say about the PUT, and, for something that is such a huge legal and practical change in immigration status, people are transitioned to it as a total afterthought (or as a given, in the case of asylum).
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I remember a time when Anundsen was considered the competent FrP politician: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/asyl-debatten/det-har-glippet-og-det-er-mitt-ansvar/a/23390473/
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I work for an OMXS30 company, and the production unit I work at is the largest unit of its kind in the world. We've got about 550 trillion "black belts" running around, and as far as I can tell Lean, Six Sigma, 5S, TPM and all that jazz means "cut down on EVERYTHING until quality starts dropping, then accuse the guys on the floor of loving up". Similarly, anyone going on about how inefficient the state is at handling money really should take a long hard look at what big companies just throw away their money on. Had a long talk with our VP of production last summer, where he among other things told me about how he has to fight the board EVERY YEAR when they suggest we should move R&D to China, despite the fact that last time we did something like that all our latest products mysteriously ended up at the local chinese competitor. But gently caress yeah, lets try that again. Oh, and how about that one time we "fudged the numbers" (straight up lied) FOR YEARS about the rework rate at the India plant since the people that made the decision to move more production there didn't want to admit they'd hosed up? gently caress.
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Literal commie-nazis? Sounds like something from The Simpsons.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Literal commie-nazis? Sounds like something from The Simpsons.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:National Bolsheviks are kind of a thing in many post-Soviet states. Like Sweden.
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Hogge Wild posted:Like Sweden. It's not a thing.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Would be funny if it wasn't so goddamned sad.
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Any SD apoligists here who think that this is an acceptable use of our court system, such as it is? http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/dom-klar-om-kaffespill-pa-sd-material/ Say what you want about Tingsrätten atleast they got this right.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Any SD apoligists here who think that this is an acceptable use of our court system, such as it is? I thought we had already effectively outlawed going to court over such small amounts? 
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Xoidanor posted:I thought we had already effectively outlawed going to court over such small amounts? Well, not quite. The courts charge an application fee to keep pointless lawsuits to a minimum (bringing a private prosecution costs something like 3000 kr), but a sufficiently vindictive person with money to burn can totally have you stand trial because you spilt coffee on his pamphlets. e: disregard, I'm an illiterate dumbass. It seems that the indictment was issued by the Prosecution Authority. One Hundred Monkeys fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Feb 9, 2015 |
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Hey look what I found. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1lvMJ-l0_A I'll show myself out.
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It's ok. Although the gays might start a war. Start a nuclear war.
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Poil posted:It's ok. At the gay bar? Gay bar?
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Shamelessly stolen from the schaudenfrade thread,ekuNNN posted:The Swedish Defense League organised a protest in Malmö and managed to get almost twenty nationalists to show up. Their protest got 1500 antifascists to show up to confront them. I mean I had heard that the turnout was low but actually seeing it just makes a world of difference, it's beautiful. 
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Xoidanor posted:I mean I had heard that the turnout was low but actually seeing it just makes a world of difference, it's beautiful. It's nice and all, but whenever one of these fucks shoot up a school or something the media always go on about how they had been radicalized partly by being outcast by society. Is there any truth to that? It would be horrible to let them go about unchallenged, but is rubbing how wrong the rest of society thinks they are in their face making things better or worse?
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Biomute posted:It's nice and all, but whenever one of these fucks shoot up a school or something the media always go on about how they had been radicalized partly by being outcast by society. Is there any truth to that? It would be horrible to let them go about unchallenged, but is rubbing how wrong the rest of society thinks they are in their face making things better or worse? Well the whole thing can basically be described like this and is applicable to both sides:  Can't we just ignore them? That have worked fine so far, until some stupid morons decided to give loving SvP publicity last year with the result of them going from 700 votes to 3500 votes. Nazis in Sweden is not a threat to our society, and should be dealt with by the police if they commit crimes.
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Biomute posted:It's nice and all, but whenever one of these fucks shoot up a school or something the media always go on about how they had been radicalized partly by being outcast by society. Is there any truth to that? It would be horrible to let them go about unchallenged, [but is rubbing how wrong the rest of society thinks they are in their face making things better or worse?  Seriously though, you're thinking of a very different kind of radical. Traditionally, the ones that go on mass slaughters are the ones that are totally isolated from regular society to begin with and never get their crazy delusions questioned at all.
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Cardiac posted:Can't we just ignore them? That have worked fine so far, until some stupid morons decided to give loving SvP publicity last year with the result of them going from 700 votes to 3500 votes. I'd be all for that if right-wing poo poo was not on the rise over the entirety of Europe. Perhaps it's something of a chicken and egg problem, but I'd like to think we're responding to something lovely and not creating it.
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Xoidanor posted:
Breivik famously cut his political teeth in FpU before deciding that they were sissies and heading off to the internet.
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V. Illych L. posted:Breivik famously cut his political teeth in FpU before deciding that they were sissies and heading off to the internet. Wherein he isolated himself for 5 years within an echo-chamber of questionable internet activity, CoD multiplayer and WoW raiding proving my point...? I mean I could even make the argument that FpU was where he first entered this echo-chamber which set him on his path.  It doesn't really matter anyways because it's not comparable in any way to the circumstances of this.
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Xoidanor posted:Shamelessly stolen from the schaudenfrade thread, The PeGiDa Sverige demo on Stortorget this monday, however, got sabotaged before they even turned their papers in to apply for the permit(by yours truly, kinda stumbled on all that) and they had 8 people attending and something between 3k-5k counterprotestors. One of the speakers and probably the headline speaker, Dan Park, didn't even show up and instead went to Hungary to attend a nazi rally(Blood and Honour) and even held a speech(totes not a nazi, no siree) and the head organizers Henrik Rönnquist(racist who hosted Dan Park's racist "art" in his gallery) and his girlfriend Annica Göransdotter Herrloff(who got exposed for her nazi ties and ideals) got shitfaced before the rally and humiliated themselves several times over. Seriously, look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnuCg-QkrtA They also literally dragged the Swedish flag through the mud, they've gotten thrashed by both opponents and allies for the embarrasment and lost almost all support overnight.(well, what little there was) It was glorious and I wish I could've attended the counter-demo in person.
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