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Cat Hatter posted:I prefer to think that everyone is just too dumb to go eat in the holodeck with its infinite power supply. You can stretch those replicator rations pretty far if you keep heading over to Fair Haven for Irish stew and Guinness. Pfft, replicator rations were forgotten by season 2.
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oddium posted:The holodeck, like most Star Trek tech, is magic Of course! In the animated series, they had the primitive 'recreation room'. Then they met Satan and traveled to the universe where magic was real! Obviously, they used that new knowledge to create the far more sophisticated 'holodeck' technology seen in TNG, which is based on demonic magic! Star Trek makes so much sense when you remember the animated series!
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Feb 5, 2015 13:03
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Feb 5, 2015 14:18
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Cojawfee posted:So is King Abdullah II the most successful star trek actor? Probably, at least as far as the whole temporal power thing goes. And you just know that dude has his Voyager uniform somewhere in a glass cabinet on display in a palace. If I remember right, he had a big meeting thing or something with the showrunners and the cast after they were done filming his bit of the episode, and invited everyone out to visit him / party it up in Jordan. I think Ethan Philips was the only one who took him up on the offer.
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Feb 5, 2015 14:37
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I'm rewatching DS9 for the first time (mostly) and last night I hit The Visitor. I think the last time I saw it I was 17 or 18, and though I enjoyed it at the time, I don't think the emotional beats really hit for me. But last night? Oh man. Last night, they hit. What a fantastic episode. I really want DS9 on blu-ray. 
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Feb 5, 2015 14:52
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I'm rewatching DS9 for the first time (mostly) and last night I hit The Visitor. I think the last time I saw it I was 17 or 18, and though I enjoyed it at the time, I don't think the emotional beats really hit for me. But last night? Oh man. Last night, they hit. What a fantastic episode. I said it before when I watched "The Visitor" and I'll say it again: I cried like a bitch. No regrets.
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Feb 5, 2015 14:56
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I really want DS9 on blu-ray. I've been going through DS9 yet again on Netflix recently and really wish it was on blu-ray already. I would SUCK if Netflix ever takes DS9 off their streaming list. Speaking of DS9, I recently found out Nana Visitor lives one block from my office in Manhattan and now every time I walk around here there's the thought in the back of my mind that Major Kira could be right around the corner at any moment! Hopefully I never actually bump into her since I imagine it would be incredibly awkward.
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Feb 5, 2015 15:03
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Apple Jax posted:I've been going through DS9 yet again on Netflix recently and really wish it was on blu-ray already. I would SUCK if Netflix ever takes DS9 off their streaming list. As nerdy as I am, I can't possibly imagine doing anything in that situation but maybe smiling and saying "big fan" and then walking on. Show your appreciation but don't invade their privacy.
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Feb 5, 2015 15:04
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Netflix Reviewer posted:I've been a Trekie all my life ! I grew up on the Original "Star Trek" , and the Animated serie's as a kid ! "Next Generation" was so Good , it almost made me feel guilty , like cheating on your diet or something like that ! But, "Deep Space Nine" , even though I loved the show , was nothing but a Rip-Off of "Babylon 5" , which I also love ! Then along come's "Voyager" ! And I'll admit that at first I was very reluctant about the show , because I , like many other Trekie's I know , thought that they just might go to far and ruin such a huge Universe that many people had fallen in love with ! But oh boy , they didn't ! This is the show that brought me back to the Alpha Quadrant , and I'll never stop watching !!! And , THANK YOU GENE FOR GIVING THE WORLD SUCH A BEAUTIFUL UNIVERSE TO PLAY IN , WE ALL MISS YOU VERY MUCH!!!
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Feb 5, 2015 16:19
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Surprise, Babylon 5 fans and Voyager fans are one and the same.
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Feb 5, 2015 16:26
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Ive always liked the whole DS9 vs Babylon5 poo poo because the reality is that two shows are really only vaguely similar with some overall themes.
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Feb 5, 2015 16:36
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Nutsngum posted:Ive always liked the whole DS9 vs Babylon5 poo poo because the reality is that two shows are really only vaguely similar with some overall themes. Nerds understand quantifiable, surface level-similarity, but don't understand actual content. For example, there are Trek shows were the show runners made the characters and music BORING ON PURPOSE, and these shows have a bunch of fans. Fans that were obviously oblivious to the fact that the "Good" parts of Trek were stories and not special effects and made up science. People who like Voyager is one thing, but there are people who like Janeway. I can only assume these people like Janeway because they also like coffee, coffee ice-cream, horses, dogs, and romance novels. They think "Janeway is just like me, so I like her."
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Feb 5, 2015 17:43
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I also never understand why some people get so evangelical about franchise wars. Is there some rule somewhere that says if I love DS9, I can't also love B5? Or if I love Star Trek, I can't also love Star Wars? It's not like enjoying a television show means that you exclusively enjoy only that show. I like lasers and spaceships and exploring real-world issues through science fiction allegory, I don't care if it calls itself Battlestar Galactica or Farscape or Star Trek or whatever.
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Feb 5, 2015 17:47
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You guys are misreading this. It's saying Voyager is crap and they went back to re-evaluate DS9, otherwise it wouldn't have brought them back to the Alpha Quadrant 
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Feb 5, 2015 18:04
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Snak posted:there are people who like Janeway I like Janeway. She is an experienced mid-level administrator who is suddenly thrust into a role of near-supreme authority that brings her into conflict with an equally well-meaning but mutinous subordinate more interested in maintaining her newly isolated ship's military strength. That she's willing to rise to the occasion and champion the best parts of human nature in the face of savagery is a strength, even when it looks like a weakness. It's just a shame that Kate Mulgrew never got to play that character. But Mary McDonnell did a pretty good job with it. Ed. I realize that this reads like a lovely beardy post, but I genuinely did get maybe a third of the way into that before I realized "oh wait I'm just describing Laura Roslin." Might be sudafed. betaraywil fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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Drone posted:I also never understand why some people get so evangelical about franchise wars. Is there some rule somewhere that says if I love DS9, I can't also love B5? Or if I love Star Trek, I can't also love Star Wars? It's not like enjoying a television show means that you exclusively enjoy only that show. I like lasers and spaceships and exploring real-world issues through science fiction allegory, I don't care if it calls itself Battlestar Galactica or Farscape or Star Trek or whatever. Because, in a capitalist society, people are defined the by the things that they like. People who are "fans" are implicitly asserting that the thing the like is better than other things, and this belief is one of their defining traits. If they realize that Stargate is just just as good (it's way better) as Star Trek, they will be forced to re-evaluate their their opinions, and no one wants to do that. It's exactly the same thought process that bigots have in general, e.g. "immigrants are the problem, not systemic flaws in our society".
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Feb 5, 2015 19:10
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e; ^^^ Liking one show more than another = exactly the same as being a bigot who wants the border closed.Big Mean Jerk posted:Surprise, Babylon 5 fans and Voyager fans are one and the same. I don't even know what is sarcasm and trolling and what is being said with a straight face anymore. B5 is one of the best shows ever made. Voyager occasionally rises to the level of good and more often falls from mediocrity to hot garbage.
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Mister Adequate posted:e; ^^^ Liking one show more than another = exactly the same as being a bigot who wants the border closed. Close-minded-ness is, in fact, the same as close-minded-ness.
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Feb 5, 2015 19:20
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Mister Adequate posted:e; ^^^ Liking one show more than another = exactly the same as being a bigot who wants the border closed. That's not my point. My point is that you can dislike something without openly evangelizing to others about how your particular brand of sci-fi is better because reasons. I'm not saying "you" specifically though, drat English and its ambiguity.
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Mister Adequate posted:I don't even know what is sarcasm and trolling and what is being said with a straight face anymore. 
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Mister Adequate posted:B5 is one of the best shows ever made. If you were going to compile a list of every show ever made and rank them, B5 wouldn't even be in the top loving fifty. Let's have some perspective, here.
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Timby posted:If you were going to compile a list of every show ever made and rank them, B5 wouldn't even be in the top loving fifty. Let's have some perspective, here. B5 is a mediocre show made stellar by a few really good actors/actors who fit their role really drat well and made the character their own (ironically not a single one of them human): Andreas Katsulas, Peter Jurasik, Mira Furlan, and Stephen Furst. Edit: and I guess achieving what that show did on a shoestring budget is also really commendable.
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Timby posted:If you were going to compile a list of every show ever made and rank them, B5 wouldn't even be in the top loving fifty. Let's have some perspective, here. I'd grab you by the collar and throw you out the nearest airlock, but we can’t afford to take perfectly good clothing and throw it out into space! I should strip you naked first, then I throw you out the airlock!
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68k posted:Just watched "Preemptive Strike" for the first time. Ro is my favorite, and that was a bad rear end ending for her character. Too bad she probably died when the Maquis were wiped out in Voyager!
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tastychicken posted:I'd grab you by the collar and throw you out the nearest airlock, but we can’t afford to take perfectly good clothing and throw it out into space! I think it would rank near the top of list of Science Fiction shows, but if we are talking TV series in general, yeah it's pretty bad.
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Kesper North posted:Too bad she probably died when the Maquis were wiped out in Voyager! I think you mean in DS9!
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Drone posted:That's not my point. My point is that you can dislike something without openly evangelizing to others about how your particular brand of sci-fi is better because reasons. "You pressed 'you', indicating 'me'. That is incorrect. Only you can prevent forest fires."
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Feb 5, 2015 22:20
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:"You pressed 'you', indicating 'me'. That is incorrect. Only you can prevent warp core breaches."
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Timby posted:If you were going to compile a list of every show ever made and rank them, B5 wouldn't even be in the top loving fifty. Let's have some perspective, here. Curious what this would even be. As far as I can tell, Sopranos and Breaking Bad are fighting for top spot.
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I tried to look on metacritic, but Babylon 5 was not rated by critics enough to even have a metascore. The two critics that did rate it would have given it an average of 54, which would put it, at highest, 1379th best season of television (metacritic tracks seperate ratings for each season of a show, no critics rated any season of B5 after the first). It would supplant "The Cape" if it was the top season with a score of 54. Voyager, Season 1 was rated 66, making it 879th best show. TNG was only rated 51, and no critics ever rated TOS. Season 1 of Duck Dynasty would still be rated higher than it. edit: If we go by user-score instead, it would be at highest the 1222nd best season of all time. That would put it ABOVE BOB'S BURGERS, but still below ever season of Voyager. Season 5 of Voyager would be in the top 100. But none of these dumb nerd shows are even on the list because no one cares about them. Like 10 people rated Voyager. Snak fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Feb 6, 2015 |
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Has anyone ever had a tooth/gum/oral problem in any of the Star Trek series?
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Doctor Butts posted:Has anyone ever had a tooth/gum/oral problem in any of the Star Trek series? A Cardassian removed one of O'Brien's molars when they imprisoned him. Nog, Rom, and Worf had those teeth sharpening scenes in DS9. 
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Doctor Butts posted:Has anyone ever had a tooth/gum/oral problem in any of the Star Trek series? In Enterprise T'pol had a tooth issue as apparently the magic sealant everyone uses to protect their teeth came off.
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Feb 6, 2015 03:09
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Doctor Butts posted:Has anyone ever had a tooth/gum/oral problem in any of the Star Trek series? That's not the field of medicine I'd expect you'd be interested in, Doctor BUTTS
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thousandcranes posted:The recurring villains of voyager are Klingon oompa loompas Kazon? More like Gayzon!  (It's funny if you imagine a developmentally challenged Tom Paris saying it while spinning his plastic steering wheel on the bridge of Voyager while everyone recoils in embarrassment behind him).
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Netflix Reviewer posted:Loved Voyager, I thought it got better with every season. Easily the best series finale of any of the Treks Jesus Christ.
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SouthLAnd posted:imagine a developmentally challenged Tom Paris So, Tom Paris.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:So, Tom Paris. "Tommy, you're the most talented pilot we have, please take the helm".  Computer, divert helm control to auxiliary station until further notice.
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thousandcranes posted:The recurring villains of voyager are Klingon oompa loompas You know, one thing that I do kind of like about Voyager is that they did kind of delineate the space that they were travelling through by introducing different recurring enemies. Starts off with the Kazon, eventually moves through Borg space, then the Hirogen, then the Hierarchy... they didn't all necessarily live up to their potential, as is Voyager's ongoing flaw, but I did like that they tried something along those lines.
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