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happyhippy posted:Little bit of vaccines hamper the profits of our insurance/medical care campaign donors. This is the opposite if you're Rick Perry.
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I don't think Republican anti-vax is really going to be a thing come 2016. There's no soft truth in the middle coverage from outlets like CNN (surprisingly) and I bet it caught guys like Paul and Christie off guard. They'll walk their statements back to a safe position of parental choice and once measles stops being a top story everyone will move on to something else.
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happyhippy posted:Little bit of anti-obama. This Lou Bega remix is weird
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DynamicSloth posted:What aspect of libertarian philosophy would lead a medically educated man to think it's okay to go on national television and perpetuate the myth that vaccines cause mental disorders? This is something that doesn't get talked about, but the vast majority of doctors aren't scientists (with clinician-scientists and other MD-PhD's being the exception), and dont understand how science works. As a result, they will often give too much credence to anecdotal "evidence" because they simply dont understand the difference between that and real research. Go read some papers written by practicing physicians trying to dabble in research and compare them to papers written by actual scientists, its quite depressing; I often see physician-authored papers present raw patient metrics based on their practice without any statistical tests of significance to account for the sample size and variation. Mr.48 fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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Bobby Digital posted:This Lou Bega remix is weird R0 No. 5
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Bobby Digital posted:This Lou Bega remix is weird Jump up and down, and move it all around Shake your head to the sound, put your kids in the ground
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Bobby Digital posted:This Lou Bega remix is weird AgentSythe posted:R0 No. 5 Ebola No .5
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Robby Wells, Jeff Boss, and Vermin Supreme. I wish some ambitious Iowa Democratic group would schedule a "1st in the Nation" debate for the current esteemed Democratic candidates and save us from this early campaign season mire. For the record, only Prohibitionist Jack Fellure is in on the GOP side. For the record, Barry O declared on Feb. 10, 2007.
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nachos posted:I don't think Republican anti-vax is really going to be a thing come 2016. There's no soft truth in the middle coverage from outlets like CNN (surprisingly) and I bet it caught guys like Paul and Christie off guard. They'll walk their statements back to a safe position of parental choice and once measles stops being a top story everyone will move on to something else. Or the immunization rate will continue to drop and the outbreaks will get much, much worse. Measles is bad enough, but this idiocy risks reviving dozens of other diseases. Even if it doesn't though, the fact is that measles is now back in the US and it's probably not going anywhere. We're at the very tip of the political iceberg here. This outbreak has meant that anti-vaxxers can't hide in the fringes anymore. People in the mainstream are discussing making vaccines truly mandatory for the first time in years. Those efforts, and the inevitable pushback, make for a compelling drama with public health on one side and individual liberty on the other. Giving the antivaxxers a voice in the mainstream would be catastrophic, but that will hardly stop our media from exploiting an issue this juicy. Now that the media has found a new controvery , they're going to milk it for all its worth and that means every time there's a new outbreak, or a new bill is proposed (if I were in the California legislature, I'd be begging my staffers to draw up a pro-vaccine bill ASAP), or someone new joins the debate, this story is going to come roaring back. The story may not be as fresh next year, but I'm absolutely convinced vaccines will still be an issue in 2016.
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nachos posted:I don't think Republican anti-vax is really going to be a thing come 2016. There's no soft truth in the middle coverage from outlets like CNN (surprisingly) and I bet it caught guys like Paul and Christie off guard. They'll walk their statements back to a safe position of parental choice and once measles stops being a top story everyone will move on to something else. Yeah, even Fox News took a surprisingly strong pro-vaccine stance.
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The one time they were being responsible journalists was quickly dashed when they aired the unedited footage of that Jordanian pilot being burned alive.
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NPR posted:The team also identified five clusters where all vaccines were refused for the babies and toddlers in the study: Do these places have distinct political tendencies on one side? Apparently this is a thing in Oregon too.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The one time they were being responsible journalists was quickly dashed when they aired the unedited footage of that Jordanian pilot being burned alive. Jesus, really? Who the gently caress thought that was a good idea?
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Caros posted:Jesus, really? Who the gently caress thought that was a good idea? Their reasoning was literally they hope it inspires a crusade.
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Caros posted:Jesus, really? Who the gently caress thought that was a good idea? Post footage -> footage disseminates on the Internet -> people more skeert of Mooselimbs -> more votes for big tuff Republicans who can protect us from Sharia Law they should get on board with anti-vax, too. More children dying of easily-preventable infectious disease -> blame easily pinned on Illegal Immigrant Plaguebearers -> more votes for big tuff Republicans who can protect us from The Mexicans PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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Even FOX is coming out as pro-vaccine? I thought for-loving-sure the insane right wing was going to run for it's money with vaccine denialism. For once in my faith in humanity is actually heightened.
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Mercury_Storm posted:Even FOX is coming out as pro-vaccine? It's a calculation to preserve sponsors, rather than an assessment of the feelings of the base, I'm sure.
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And they can spin it to point the finger at dirty Messicans.
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FAUXTON posted:Jump up and down, and move it all around Holy poo poo, how did this get missed? 
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Pegged Lamb posted:Do these places have distinct political tendencies on one side? Apparently this is a thing in Oregon too. Overall, no. Basically the bad vaccination areas in CA are spread across the political spectrum, although the poorer San Joaquin valley counties (which have a high amount of migrant farm workers) actually look pretty good. This came up in the political maps thread, because there's a map of CA by school district and the results don't fit any obvious political bent. In some other thread the rates of vaccination for some charter schools were posted, and they were sub-50%, which does fit the type of people I've run in to who don't vaccinate. They care about their kids, and are sorta-educated, but are in to alternative ways of doing things.. and the vaccination stuff fits right in somehow.
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Yet another criminal probe into Chris Christie: http://www.ibtimes.com/chris-christie-administration-target-new-federal-criminal-probe-1806644
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Mike Huckabee talks about those anti-dancing columns he wrote when he was a teenager:quote:Huckabee said he found it funny people were focusing on his old columns, specifically one in which he wrote Christians shouldn’t dance, when at the same time other potential Republican candidates were addressing past drug use and drinking.
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Actually Mike the funniest thing is that you think anyone agrees with you on this point, and also that you seem to not be recanting this "anti-dancing" stance at all.
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Man, it's gonna be great when the Supreme Court rules that gay people can dance at their weddings.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Man, it's gonna be great when the Supreme Court rules that gay people can dance at their weddings.
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DaveWoo posted:Mike Huckabee talks about those anti-dancing columns he wrote when he was a teenager: No honey, it's not controversial, it's that it makes look like you were a loony weirdo and the fact that you think it is controversial today makes you look like you are still a loony weirdo.
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Three Olives posted:No honey, it's not controversial, it's that it makes look like you were a loony weirdo and the fact that you think it is controversial today makes you look like you are still a loony weirdo. He knows the mayor from Footloose was the bad guy right?
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1: What does 'choom' mean? (ok apparently it means something to do with weed) 2: It's bad for someone's witness? do they just take words and use them and assume everyone knows what this means? Witness means someone who saw something, or the act of seeing something (and apparently proof). How can dancing be bad for a witness?
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redreader posted:1: What does 'choom' mean? (ok apparently it means something to do with weed) 1. It's a reference to Obama's group of college friends who smoked weed 2. In Christian circles it's used as in "Bearing witness", as in if someone sees you dancing you will be a less effective example of a good Christian for the purposes of turning other people into Christians. It doesn't make a lot of sense but I blame them more than me.
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This vaccination issue cropping up in the GOP primaries is just the wildest thing. Rick Perry gets to position himself as the adult in the room.quote:“I think governors, elected officials, people in positions of authority and power and influence, should use those positions to make sure that the people they either represent or have the opportunity to work for are as healthy as they can be,” he said. “Obviously vaccines are a very important part of that.”
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Actually Mike the funniest thing is that you think anyone agrees with you on this point, and also that you seem to not be recanting this "anti-dancing" stance at all. I'm opposed to Christians dancing, too. For the straight white males, at least.
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Three Olives posted:No honey, it's not controversial, it's that it makes look like you were a loony weirdo and the fact that you think it is controversial today makes you look like you are still a loony weirdo. Or a typical small church southern baptist. e: Actually these days even they've lightened up on it. It's mostly the primitives and some of the free-willers who still look down on it. The foot washers basically. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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Nameless_Steve posted:I'm opposed to Christians dancing, too. For the straight white males, at least. *does the little "I'm squishing a cockroach" leg move*
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Intel&Sebastian posted:2. In Christian circles it's used as in "Bearing witness", as in if someone sees you dancing you will be a less effective example of a good Christian for the purposes of turning other people into Christians. It doesn't make a lot of sense but I blame them more than me. Witnesses get stichnesses. True story: I only voted for Obama because of the choom gang and other various stories from his high school days.
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FAUXTON posted:Jump up and down, and move it all around Haha well down this is great.
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Pinterest Mom posted:This vaccination issue cropping up in the GOP primaries is just the wildest thing. Rick Perry gets to position himself as the adult in the room. While leaving the interview Perry asked "Why are people asking so many questions about the things we use on Death Row prisoners?", but was quickly rushed away.
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Internet Webguy posted:Witnesses get stichnesses. Remember in 2008 when the Very Serious people were asking if Obama was "too cool" to be president? Good times, man.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:*does the little "I'm squishing a black child" leg move* The most conservative of dad dances.
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shadow puppet of a posted:Exactly how does one poison a dance floor? - Chicken Dance - Macarena - That one stupid loving song they play in every single god drat wedding.
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