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Munkeymon posted:I think it also ignores that you need to byo truck driving license for which you'll have to take classes of some sort you can't get in a truck until you work at ups doing other stuff for a while i thought still its only like a year or two
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papa_november posted:look at all these cj babbies freezing up at the idea of having to wrench on a pinball machine parts are the problem for pinball: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Twilight-Zone-Ceramic-Power-Ball-Pinball-/151445292606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2342d7c63e
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ruby idiot railed posted:ham (which is what canadian bacon is) isn't what the eff
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qirex posted:in a place with $3k rent? yeah, people share houses when they're all scrappy and trepping
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qirex posted:parts are the problem for pinball: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Twilight-Zone-Ceramic-Power-Ball-Pinball-/151445292606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2342d7c63e some of the plastic and metal bits used to be cost-prohibitive because you needed to vacuform or make custom tooling for them but there's places now where you send off the original and they scan and 3d print a run of them for you  they don't hold up as well but at least you can poo poo them out in your living room instead of ordering more of them off the internet Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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on the other hand, twilight zone it's a fun as poo poo table but boy howdy i'd never want to have to look after one
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Beast of Bourbon posted:our intern helpfully suggested that it'd be great if more people's parents died because of the sympathy/condolences food/pastries my vendors/partners sent that i put in the break room. lol
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Forums Terrorist posted:on the other hand, twilight zone *throws literally every plastic toy ever invented into one machine and sells 15,000 of them in 1993* *2 work in 2015 and one of them has a broken clock*
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Feb 5, 2015 20:59
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p much why system 11s are so popular i'd imagine
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Feb 5, 2015 21:03
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:if you include lost wages during the 11+ years of higher education required as well as the debt As a Millennial I posted:lol shut up
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Feb 5, 2015 21:06
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:(also the easy wins are behind us) but even that is just improving things at the margins and not tapping into the sort of moores-law technological progression that gets you 10x and 100x improvements in output me, im still waiting for all those amazing new discoveries to come tumbling out of the human genome project. any day now!
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Feb 5, 2015 21:28
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TerminalRaptor posted:The old Data East Simpsons and Batman Forever. Despite being such a horrible movie the Batman table is far more fun than it had any right to be. When it's working that is. batman forever wasn't a horrible movie. it just had its tone stripped right out of the 60s campy batman, so it was real different from the tim burton hot topic batmen. imo they did a pretty good job skirting the line between entertaining and stupid. jim carrey was cast quite well as the riddler batman and robin is the really awful one.
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unfazed by having the city impound the cars of drivers operating illegally in montréal, uber just sent out an email saying its fares are dropping 15%
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my wife used to have a job that included teaching doctors at her hospital to use computers. it's not a winnable fight, you just have to let generations die out.
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FMguru posted:i dunno, i think there are some big wins just sitting around that havent been implemented for cultural reason. like, i read about a program that looked into surgical errors, carefully noted where all the errors tended to occur, came up with a strict new procedure for handling surgical equipment (mostly involving monitoring all the equipment at all times so nothing got left in the patient or misplaced), ran a trial program, got something like a huge boost in outcomes (90% fewer surgical re-admissions), published their results, and...nothing. no one picked it up because re-training a bunch of surgeons to follow a procedure outlined in a series of binders instead of just doing what theyd been doing their whole careers was a total non-starter. there are a bunch of other cheap wins (enforced hand-disinfecting, for one) that just havent gotten the cultural boost to be put into action doctors fuckin hate checklists see also: pilots. but pilots weren't given any choice in the matter
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also our university constantly has meetings and task groups and symposia about online courses (which are called MOOCs now for some idiotic reason, "massively online open course") and how they're the future of teaching and all this stuff they work very well for survey courses like art history or intro to psychology where you have a lot of easily digitized content and the evaluations amount to "can you recall $fact or not", ie, the bird courses that don't really make yu think they are essentially useless for anything with a lab component or anything that would be taught as a seminar with lots of discussion, ie the courses that provide the real value in higher education
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MOOCs are a really cool way to advertise for a university or even for individual professors to advertise their own work. the profusion of totally free videotaped lecture series with auto-graded homework for thousands of simultaneous users is a cool and good thing that makes the world just a little bit a nicer but it's not gonna replace universities or yield 10x returns to working hours or revolutionize education
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:doctors fuckin hate checklists if pilot have union this not happen
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:but it's not gonna replace universities or yield 10x returns to working hours or revolutionize education hopefully it will just revolutionize lovely geneds
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:if pilot have union this not happen tell it to the FAA.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:doctors fuckin hate checklists i think i understand why the NIH made me wear a wristband with a barcode that nurses were scanning constantly. i guess you could force the checklist by having surgeons 'check in' all their tools as they put them in the cleaning bin or whatever it is they do once they're done by scanning them
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on my last hospital stay the bracelet scanning prevented at least two medication errors. neither would have been serious, but still.
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Subjunctive posted:on my last hospital stay the bracelet scanning prevented at least two medication errors. neither would have been serious, but still. hospitals are loving terrible TERRRRRRRRRRIBLE with loving up medications they are so bad at it because they all are 19 hours into a 20 hour shift and literally consider u a piece of meat to keep alive and thats it
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:yeah see this is the techno-futurist poo poo that is just really poorly supported in literature. people talk about huge gains but the cost structures and measures of efficacy we have in the real world don't support it. productivity in education should be going up, but the overall system is so hosed up and self-destructive that it's unable to take proper advantage of new developments in education. insufficient training, political pressure, and constant efforts to fire all but the lowest-paid teachers have rendered the system incapable of adopting more effective teaching methodologies. also in the case of teaching, productivity would be measured in educational quality (how much teaching can be packed into a given amount of time) rather than class size doctors in hospitals are seeing a lot more patients per day. the same isn't true of independent practices because, for the most part, they aren't really designed to be efficient or to handle large numbers of patients, so they're largely incapable of taking advantage of automation, and the cases that show up in front of a gp are the ones least likely to benefit from automation anyway; anything that can be automated usually gets referred to a hospital or specialist that is better positioned to automate. they're too decentralized and lacking in infrastructure and resources. hospitals, on the other hand, are physically and organizationally designed to handle lots of patients at once, and most of those patients are in a phase of treatment that is easier to automate away. and even then doctors tend to be super resistant to organizational or procedural changes that would increase efficiency
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Main Paineframe posted:productivity in education should be going up, but the overall system is so hosed up and self-destructive that it's unable to take proper advantage of new developments in education. insufficient training, political pressure, and constant efforts to fire all but the lowest-paid teachers have rendered the system incapable of adopting more effective teaching methodologies. also in the case of teaching, productivity would be measured in educational quality (how much teaching can be packed into a given amount of time) rather than class size class size is a means, not an end. as far as anyone can tell, class size is an important predictor of outcomes do you have a way to get 10x or 100x outcomes ? i've never seen anything like this mentioned in general interest magazines, or the chronicle of higher education is there some source i'm missing? Main Paineframe posted:doctors in hospitals are seeing a lot more patients per day. the same isn't true of independent practices because, for the most part, they aren't really designed to be efficient or to handle large numbers of patients, so they're largely incapable of taking advantage of automation, and the cases that show up in front of a gp are the ones least likely to benefit from automation anyway; anything that can be automated usually gets referred to a hospital or specialist that is better positioned to automate. they're too decentralized and lacking in infrastructure and resources. hospitals, on the other hand, are physically and organizationally designed to handle lots of patients at once, and most of those patients are in a phase of treatment that is easier to automate away. and even then doctors tend to be super resistant to organizational or procedural changes that would increase efficiency ok so magical gains in productivity are available, but magically only price gougers (hospitals) can implement the changes, not individuals who have a huge profit incentive to do so (GPs) ? weak tea, man, weak tea
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i'm like, inviting a fishmeching here but not even fishmech is dumb enough to argue that teaching is ripe for revolution via ~*~ technology ~*~
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can't wait to see the school doing k-12 education in 12 months (we're measuring by unit time, not by number of students in fixed time, right?)
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:can't wait to see the school doing k-12 education in 12 months 9 women, a baby, 1 month?
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i'm like, inviting a fishmeching here teaching is ripe for revolution via destroying charter schools, knocking down private schools, and finally funding all school districts well
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Main Paineframe posted:productivity in education should be going up, but the overall system is so hosed up and self-destructive that it's unable to take proper advantage of new developments in education. insufficient training, political pressure, and constant efforts to fire all but the lowest-paid teachers have rendered the system incapable of adopting more effective teaching methodologies. also in the case of teaching, productivity would be measured in educational quality (how much teaching can be packed into a given amount of time) rather than class size "how much teaching can be packed into a given amount of time"? seriously? i could easily double the speed of information presentation in my classes. do you actually believe that that would result in twice as many students educated to the same level? that's the bottleneck here? the teachers are just so slow at getting the information out? you're proposing 9 women having a baby in a month
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Nintendo Kid posted:teaching is ripe for revolution via destroying charter schools, knocking down private schools, and finally funding all school districts well so the opposite of what we're doing in america, then
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Nintendo Kid posted:teaching is ripe for revolution via destroying charter schools, knocking down private schools, and finally funding all school districts well i used to be one of those frothing anti-union quantitative measurement people, hoping charter schools would deliver us all. then real numbers started to come in, and it turns out that all those wishy-washy public employees who resented teaching to the test were actually right. empirical evidence suggests none of this poo poo has ever worked. oops
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Sagebrush posted:"how much teaching can be packed into a given amount of time"? seriously? i'm afraid you have insufficient training the self-destructive system has made sure that all the good teachers were incentivized to find higher-paying work, and they've left you behind sorry you're not a 100x teacher ubermensch
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papa_november posted:look at all these cj babbies freezing up at the idea of having to wrench on a pinball machine if it were a good table i'd have asked for the key by now, but it's Elvis.
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As a Millennial I posted:if it were a good table i'd have asked for the key by now, but it's Elvis. yeah, i understand why you would be afraid of damaging the king of tables
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:yeah, i understand why you would be afraid of damaging the king of tables 
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get a hardbody
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Forums Terrorist posted:get a hardbody this intimidated countless pre-teen boys
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i'm afraid you have insufficient training fixed, fixed, fixed i used to work at a school district and witnessed several younger teachers leaving their career. they were all very driven and passionate about teaching. even when they were unlucky enough to get the lower-performing classes, they didn't bitch about the kids. it was loving management that drove them out. one teacher said she got called into an impromptu meeting with a parent that was allowed to stand and yell at her for half an hour; the principal did nothing to moderate the meeting administration later gave her poo poo when her average class scores were down, because she had heeded same administration's call to 'hold students accountable to more rigorous standards' (which means, yeah, your scores are gonna go down at first) and then pointed out another teacher as a "great example" - said "great example" was notorious in the department for softballing kids by, among other things, reviewing the correct answer to each question on a test immediately before giving the test
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