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Cognac McCarthy posted:"software mishaps that affect real lives" "Friendzoned again!"
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Crain posted:I get ya. Unless there's some specific claims he's making there's probably not much to point to. People just love to hate and even pointing out that they're wrong on specifics will just net a "Well they're still a [slur here].   Mort is the OP
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Feb 5, 2015 21:52
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Zeitgueist posted:
Yeah, that the same old racism we always see. There's nothing to really retort about it. Mary Christmas is just looking for anyone and anything that calls Islam evil so any source you bring up will probably be called biased or worse he'll bring up Taqiyya and then you're just going to be playing No True Scotsman. There's nothing to do here. Bud Jet has the right idea, nuke it from orbit.
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Feb 5, 2015 22:03
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Crain posted:There's nothing to do here. Bud Jet has the right idea, nuke it from orbit. Yeah but he was talking about "all muslims" and not "this thread" Anyhow I just like to have resources because the OP is a guy who was in the military and works in an echo-chamber but is legitimately a good person and not racist that I have seen...but everybody else in that thread pretty much is.
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Feb 5, 2015 22:07
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Pixelated Dragon posted:I don't get the Chris Kyle craze. Who knows how much of his memoir was really true? Just look at the defamation case brought about by Jesse Ventura regarding the alleged punching incident. If you don't jerk off to the thought of headshotting foreigners we've deemed to be enemies then I question your patriotism. Chris Kyle got to live the dream of murdering people I am afraid of as a career.
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Feb 5, 2015 22:11
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Sulphuric Sundae posted:With regard to the SF bookstore blaming the min wage increase, Romney came through Richmond, VA during his campaign and met with the guy who ran a local BBQ chain. He was going out of business and told Romney it was because of Obama and the economy, while a lot of people were going "Bullshit, you just made really bad BBQ." Oh holy poo poo i remember this! it was also located in a notoriously low travled and lovely part of town too. The best part was all of the local right wing shills adopted them as a advertising partner and they still died a flameing death by lovely bbq. Good riddence.
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Feb 5, 2015 22:12
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Zeitgueist posted:Yeah but he was talking about "all muslims" and not "this thread" Well you can still check out CAIR and show him polls on how American muslims think and feel about situations and such. But again, it's just going to turn into a "No True Muslim" situation.
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Feb 5, 2015 22:23
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Feb 5, 2015 22:26
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Crain posted:Yeah, that the same old racism we always see. There's nothing to really retort about it. Mary Christmas is just looking for anyone and anything that calls Islam evil...
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Feb 5, 2015 22:30
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Totally, not racist guys b/c I mentioned 'poo poo' too! 
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Feb 5, 2015 22:36
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Tibeerius posted:much as Christians and Jews basically ignore the more outrageous stuff in their holy books.
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Feb 5, 2015 22:36
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Tibeerius posted:It looks to me like Tom and Mary aren't shooting wildly; they're taking pretty specific aim at the Koran and its more troubling verses (e.g. "Kill all the infidels"). One could rebut that such verses are not as bad as they sound (and if anyone knows of a good way to do this, I would love to hear it). Alternatively, one could point out that the vast majority of Muslims live completely peaceful lives; that they basically choose to ignore (or at least, favorably interpret) the more troubling language in the Koran, much as Christians and Jews basically ignore the more outrageous stuff in their holy books. The problem with pointing out similar languages in the Torah/Bible is that the response is just "We got over it, they haven't" or "That doesn't make it right". Pointing out that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful similarly falls on deaf ears or is countered with "But they let them keep practicing and don't stop them". And again any articles showing Imams calling for peace or decrying Wahabists will just have cries of "Taqiyya" since this whole thing is just McCarthyism and the Commies again. But he should still try and rebut him if Zeitguist feels it's neccesary. CAIR is going to be his best bet for finding things if that's the case because it focuses on American Muslims and not Middle Easterners, so it should be harder to handwave away by saying "Oh they're just lying to foreign reporters because it's a conspiracy!".
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Feb 5, 2015 22:37
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Crain posted:But he should still try and rebut him if Zeitguist feels it's neccesary. CAIR is going to be his best bet for finding things if that's the case because it focuses on American Muslims and not Middle Easterners, so it should be harder to handwave away by saying "Oh they're just lying to foreign reporters because it's a conspiracy!". It's not 'necessary" per se, but I believe a couple things about arguing on facebook - nobody will ever admit they lost an argument - echo chambers happen and folks who are otherwise good people can be steered into lovely/bigoted lines of thought - there's always workers who may form opinions in part/whole without ever participating i mean sure facebook is a terrible medium for doing basically anything but it's how a decent chunk of the population grinds through their deskjobs and discusses issues
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Feb 5, 2015 22:48
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Lost opportunity of the century if they don't paint DEBT on the side.
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Feb 5, 2015 23:16
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Saw this one on facebook:quote:Guys, I wanted to let you know about a personal decision I recently made. I don't really feel like discussing it, but I want to put my position out there. Please be respectful. This is a really long post, but please read the whole thing.
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Feb 5, 2015 23:51
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Zeitgueist posted:Saw this one on facebook: Where did you find this? I just had yet another argument with anti-vaxxers+"teach the controversy" idiots.
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Feb 5, 2015 23:56
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Zeitgueist posted:Saw this one on facebook: This thread has ruined me.. I just for a moment about half way through was falling for it thinking this was serious. Poe's law in action I guess.
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Feb 5, 2015 23:58
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Where did you find this? I just had yet another argument with anti-vaxxers+"teach the controversy" idiots. share of a share on facebook didn't see whether the original person made it up or was reposting so I didn't want to use their name
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Feb 6, 2015 00:02
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Zeitgueist posted:Saw this one on facebook: Jesus Christ, that is a 
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Feb 6, 2015 00:17
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Rick_Hunter posted:Jesus Christ, that is a Indeed. Shamelessly ganked it.
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Feb 6, 2015 00:27
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Possibly original to here: http://robertmoorejr.tumblr.com/post/110101466091/im-an-anti-braker
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Feb 6, 2015 00:35
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BatteredFeltFedora posted:Possibly original to here: http://robertmoorejr.tumblr.com/post/110101466091/im-an-anti-braker Yep came to post that, that's the source
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Feb 6, 2015 00:37
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Zeitgueist posted:Saw this one on facebook: Beautiful. Stealing this.
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Feb 6, 2015 00:40
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Zeitgueist posted:Saw this one on facebook:  My wall has been quiet so far. Then there's this:   I'm not sure this is a thing that needs the support of a Facebook re-post spamathon. Are there people who are pro child abuse but who would have their mind changed by this image?
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Feb 6, 2015 00:41
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Kinda depends on the child I guess...
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Feb 6, 2015 01:15
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Duke Igthorn posted:Kinda depends on the child I guess... Hitler was a child. Not punishing Hitler means you hate Jews. Q.E.D.
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Feb 6, 2015 01:21
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It's along the lines of that "1 Like = one prayer, 1 share = 5 prayer!" bullshit. What kind of conception of god has him looking at facebook likes/shares? I guess it solves the problem of evil somewhat, Hitler happened because facebook wasn't around yet. edit: and whoever started that is apparently against child abuse, but not strongly enough to bother finding a non-artifacted picture of a heart.
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Feb 6, 2015 01:22
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Pong Daddy posted:It's along the lines of that "1 Like = one prayer, 1 share = 5 prayer!" bullshit. What kind of conception of god has him looking at facebook likes/shares? I guess it solves the problem of evil somewhat, Hitler happened because facebook wasn't around yet.
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Feb 6, 2015 01:36
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Pong Daddy posted:It's along the lines of that "1 Like = one prayer, 1 share = 5 prayer!" bullshit. What kind of conception of god has him looking at facebook likes/shares? I guess it solves the problem of evil somewhat, Hitler happened because facebook wasn't around yet. The onion's got your back 
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Feb 6, 2015 01:46
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Crain posted:The problem with pointing out similar languages in the Torah/Bible is that the response is just "We got over it, they haven't" or "That doesn't make it right". Pointing out that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful similarly falls on deaf ears or is countered with "But they let them keep practicing and don't stop them". And again any articles showing Imams calling for peace or decrying Wahabists will just have cries of "Taqiyya" since this whole thing is just McCarthyism and the Commies again. Just like most arguments against people who are being totally irrational, you only have three real options: 1) give up on ever changing their mind and make reasoned arguments aimed at anyone who might be reading 2) attempt to use shame as a social punishment for being an open racist 3) if you trust them to be intellectually honest, start off by asking what evidence they would require to change their belief.
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Feb 6, 2015 03:58
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Mornacale posted:Just like most arguments against people who are being totally irrational, you only have three real options: 4) Needle them by asking questions that lead to logical holes in their argument until they get tired and admit they hold the belief for no reason. "I don't care. I just don't like pot!" "I don't care. I just don't think they should get married!" I mostly do this for my own amusement, but a few times it has resulted in the person very very quietly changing their beliefs.
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Feb 6, 2015 04:06
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Cpt.Americant posted:This thread has ruined me.. I just for a moment about half way through was falling for it thinking this was serious. Poe's law in action I guess. I figured it was a metaphor for something, but it wasn't until the end that I realized what. I thought it was going somewhere horrible.
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Feb 6, 2015 04:11
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How did anyone get two lines into the braking thing without realizing it was a takedown of anti-vaxxers?
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Feb 6, 2015 04:25
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mr. mephistopheles posted:How did anyone get two lines into the braking thing without realizing it was a takedown of anti-vaxxers? For me at least, I just assumed it was meant to be something horrible. Mocking anti-vaxxers isn't the kind of things that usually shows up in the crazy forwards thread without a preface or something first.
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Feb 6, 2015 05:25
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mr. mephistopheles posted:How did anyone get two lines into the braking thing without realizing it was a takedown of anti-vaxxers? Straight up pessimism. There's this article floating around that's gets truncated to "Why My Son Isn't Vaccinated" sometimes. When I saw it on an acquaintance's wall, I was pretty loving livid b/c she had kids and was vehemently for vaccination up to this point. "Surely this woman is joking, right?" Well, thankfully, I was right. And her name wasn't Shirley.
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Feb 6, 2015 05:33
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mr. mephistopheles posted:How did anyone get two lines into the braking thing without realizing it was a takedown of anti-vaxxers? My only defense is that there was a guy recently discussed in a FB group who was honest-to-god driving his car around without brakes, and who didn't get why anyone was angry at him for doing it. It took me four lines to realize it wasn't that guy.
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Feb 6, 2015 06:09
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:My only defense is that there was a guy recently discussed in a FB group who was honest-to-god driving his car around without brakes, and who didn't get why anyone was angry at him for doing it. It took me four lines to realize it wasn't that guy. Alright that's a legit reason.
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Feb 6, 2015 06:34
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The Guardian has a nice fancy thing that shows how vaccination rates help with measles. Of course it's no better than banging your head against the wall but at least it's pretty.
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Feb 6, 2015 07:00
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IslamoNazi posted:The Guardian has a nice fancy thing that shows how vaccination rates help with measles. Of course it's no better than banging your head against the wall but at least it's pretty. What the hell? Why did they decide to make colorblind eye charts out of their data? As a person with some degree of colorblindness, they can go gently caress themselves.
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ErIog posted:What the hell? Why did they decide to make colorblind eye charts out of their data? As a person with some degree of colorblindness, they can go gently caress themselves. Eh, I'm also colorblind and the colors seem to contrast pretty well (unless there are more than 3 colors, because I only see 3). It would be worse if there were more than 3 colors, but it works okay when you can choose colors that contrast so much.
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