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Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
Not to mention that not everyone pays taxes on purchases (charities, etc.).

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Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!

EugeneJ posted:

Wait...where the hell did they fit a Home Depot in Manhattan?

Late but it doesn't look like other home depots. Obviously used to be a different department store.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.742215,-73.991194,3a,65.7y,172.03h,101.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6vramKlICIkl6Wh4U-C0ug!2e0

Pekinduck
May 10, 2008
Oh man, I used to work in a store that was in Massachusetts near the Massachusetts-New Hampshire border. Mass. has sales tax, New Hampshire doesn't. When the sales tax was added I had multiple people insist we were in New Hampshire and think I was either stupid or trying to pull a fast one.

Coolspaz
Feb 26, 2004
And so it came to pass, and so it was told, quoth the raven "never more"
I'm in Ontario and we have HST (harmonized sales tax) which is 13%, it's pretty much a way to apply both GST and PST to everything because why not

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW
When you say "it would be impossible," you mean "the company would need to hire more people to oversee more specialized correct signage and labeling." There are many first world countries where the advertised price is what the customer pays and trying to charge more on top of that is flatly illegal, and sure enough they have accurate signage and labels.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

Arnold of Soissons posted:

When you say "it would be impossible," you mean "the company would need to hire more people to oversee more specialized correct signage and labeling." There are many first world countries where the advertised price is what the customer pays and trying to charge more on top of that is flatly illegal, and sure enough they have accurate signage and labels.

My store has a new sale every week and we have 1 full-time and one part-time person to do all the signage. Let me tell you how often I have to go to the aisle to check a price because the price in the system doesn't match the price on the tag. :eng99:

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Arnold of Soissons posted:

When you say "it would be impossible," you mean "the company would need to hire more people to oversee more specialized correct signage and labeling." There are many first world countries where the advertised price is what the customer pays and trying to charge more on top of that is flatly illegal, and sure enough they have accurate signage and labels.

Yeah, but they also don't generally have a different tax code for each store.

Each municipality in my area has a different sales tax. One city is 7.9%, one is 6.3%, one is 8.2%, one is 7.4%, etc. Oh, and they tend to change a little bit almost every year.

Imagine the nightmare of having to change almost EVERY. SINGLE. SIGN. in a store OVERNIGHT because a small sales tax increase was passed and comes into effect in the city your store is in. Then a few months later, a different tax sunsets and is no longer charged.

Oh, and it happens on a Wednesday, and your sale ad in the newspaper came out on Sunday, and people are now screaming at you because the TV advertised for 299.99 is now 302.46 or something because the sales tax rate in the city changed.

The only way it would be even remotely possible is with computerized price labels, and even the big chains don't use those extensively. Ma and Pa's gift shoppette is totally screwed.

If you're an American, it's just kind of ingrained in you from the time you're first using money that you need to add 5-10% to the price on the label. I don't see it changing.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Unless you live in one of the 5 states that don't have a sales tax. Which own, but are also generally a) small and b) "weird" relative to the rest of the US.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

LGD posted:

Unless you live in one of the 5 states that don't have a sales tax. Which own, but are also generally a) small and b) "weird" relative to the rest of the US.

In Oregon, we don't have sales tax, and you can't pump your own gas. What the hell?

asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood
Is it normal to negotiate a price in retail stores in the us? Maybe not a big store like target but a smaller say clothes or shoes etc?

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

SymmetryrtemmyS posted:

In Oregon, we don't have sales tax, and you can't pump your own gas. What the hell?

I live in Oregon too :ssh:

(which was likely because Oregon has nearly the same population as the combined populations of the other 4 states without sales tax)

it's (mostly) the best

LGD fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Feb 7, 2015

Magic Underwear
May 14, 2003


Young Orc

asio posted:

Is it normal to negotiate a price in retail stores in the us? Maybe not a big store like target but a smaller say clothes or shoes etc?

No.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952





Hell no.

The US does not have a culture of haggling. Any place with printed price tags probably can't charge anything else.

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

mllaneza posted:

Hell no.

The US does not have a culture of haggling. Any place with printed price tags probably can't charge anything else.

There are plenty of stores where items can be discounted at the whim of an employee - Home Depot for example, any employee can give up to a $50 discount on a transaction without managerial oversight.

Baiku
Oct 25, 2011

You can haggle TV's and mattresses.

A lot of stores POS can let an employee offer a discount but you'd better have a drat good reason for doing so not just because a customer doesn't want to pay the advertised price.

creatine
Jan 27, 2012




The only times I've been able to haggle down prices at retail stores is when I would buy the last of an item and it was the floor model. But this hasn't worked in years since I don't think most places sell the floor models anymore

Saeku
Sep 22, 2010
Haggling in a clothes store would be pretty weird, but negotiating price on larger purchases is normal, especially on antique/collectible or slow-selling big-ticket items that the shopkeeper might just want gone.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Saeku posted:

Haggling in a clothes store would be pretty weird, but negotiating price on larger purchases is normal, especially on antique/collectible or slow-selling big-ticket items that the shopkeeper might just want gone.

Those aren't retail stores, though, which is the context that was brought up. The US in general is not a haggling culture, and that goes double for retail. If you can describe the person running the place as a shopkeeper rather than a manager or the like, then maybe try your luck.

KIT HAGS
Jun 5, 2007
Stay sweet
The most you can do is ask for a discount if the garment you want to buy is the last in stock and a bit damaged. And you'll get 10% off max.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

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Cat Army Sworn Enemy
Hi retail thread.

Every so often, I think about how boring my office job is, and how I miss the excitement from working retail. Then I remember the lovely customers, and I realize the only thing I miss about retail is finding myself a nice quiet corner after the store closes and surrounding myself with dozens of boxes to spider wrap.

Hang in there buddies :) Keep in mind that my senior's highest level of education is high school and he makes ~$30 an hour. I got out of retail by taking advantage of the limited hours and self-studying for IT certifications on my time off. Low level certs are piss easy and look good to any HR rep who doesn't know anything about computers.

e: and despite my AV, I don't actually work in a call center.

Santheb
Jul 13, 2005

Pumpy Dumper posted:

The only times I've been able to haggle down prices at retail stores is when I would buy the last of an item and it was the floor model. But this hasn't worked in years since I don't think most places sell the floor models anymore

At the Costco I work at, we mark TVs down 40% if it's the last one and we won't be getting any more of that particular model in. You can get a hell of a deal on one, especially if there's a rebate from the manufacturer on it.

If the TV retails for $1200 and has an instant rebate of $120 on it, that set is getting sold for $600. Happens all the time.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer
So you know how you refuse to swap something for a customer because it is out of warranty (my store will swap cases within a year for defects, but of course not outside a year), customer gets mad, customer claims they have a huge, 18,000 line account with company they will switch to the competitor if you don't swap the case, and that everything will get escalated?


Yeah, I get the one dude where that is actually not an exaggeration. I (very politely despite him being an immediate dick) refused to swap out said $80 case because it was out of warranty, and my phone and email starts getting blown up about a week later because this dude went way up the chain and made legit noise. Thankfully, my area people aren't exactly yelling at me, but of course they are annoyed with having to deal with it, and it sounds like the guy wants to talk to me, so I am probably going to have to get on the phone and apologize to just basically shut the guy up.

The one guy out of 1,000,000 and I get him. drat that sucks.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
i'm not sure whats stupider, somebody making a schedule request to not work mornings on either week days or weekends with the stated reasoning being that they want to be able to sleep in, or leaving this schedule request sitting out in the open clipped to the schedule because they were too stupid to find the request envelope (clipped on top of the schedule on the same clipboard) and put it inside

darkwolf220
May 14, 2009

SOON :stare:

Pornographic Memory posted:

i'm not sure whats stupider, somebody making a schedule request to not work mornings on either week days or weekends with the stated reasoning being that they want to be able to sleep in, or leaving this schedule request sitting out in the open clipped to the schedule because they were too stupid to find the request envelope (clipped on top of the schedule on the same clipboard) and put it inside

See, this is when I loved being the manager in charge of the schedule. The appropriate thing is to is to schedule them exclusively mornings for a week or two. gently caress people who feel that it is ok to hinder their fellow employees because they are lazy shits.

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
At least they've put in a schedule request vs trying to rope someone into switching every day they get scheduled early or calling off those days. Everyone has a preference for working hours, would you poo poo on them if their reason was something else?

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Pornographic Memory posted:

i'm not sure whats stupider, somebody making a schedule request to not work mornings on either week days or weekends with the stated reasoning being that they want to be able to sleep in, or leaving this schedule request sitting out in the open clipped to the schedule because they were too stupid to find the request envelope (clipped on top of the schedule on the same clipboard) and put it inside

Some people function better at night than they do early in the morning. Given that these people are a minority, and that the majority of people consider working nights to be a nuisance, someone who wants to work nights is a precious flower to be protected - by working nights they are doing someone else who would probably prefer not to work nights a favour. That being said, If it were me I'd have phrased it more like 'I'm happy to work whatever hours you need, but given the choice, I'd prefer to be rostered nights'.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

PCOS Bill posted:

Everyone has a preference for working hours, would you poo poo on them if their reason was something else?

How else are you supposed to inflate your sense of self-worth if you don't treat people like poo poo when you get the chance?

klapman
Aug 27, 2012

this char is good

darkwolf220 posted:

See, this is when I loved being the manager in charge of the schedule. The appropriate thing is to is to schedule them exclusively mornings for a week or two. gently caress people who feel that it is ok to hinder their fellow employees because they are lazy shits.

If they're part time then who gives a poo poo, the only reason retail can even be vaguely considered an acceptable job is because you're not important and therefore can get your way on scheduling stuff a lot of the time. If you're going to go directly against their request by being an rear end in a top hat, just fire them and get it over with, or god forbid, talk to them about it. Don't let retail turn you into an enormous fucker.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

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Cat Army Sworn Enemy

The Lord Bude posted:

That being said, If it were me I'd have phrased it more like 'I'm happy to work whatever hours you need, but given the choice, I'd prefer to be rostered nights'.

When I worked retail, I closed off my availability for nights 3 nights a week. 2 to raid and 1 to drink my liver into oblivion.

I put "outside commitments" as the reasoning on my availability request form. It's retail, gently caress it, do what you want. You have no loyalty to the store or commitments to your fellow employees. That being said, "I want to sleep in" is a stupid reason and that person deserves mornings out of principle and a lesson in office politics :colbert:

Closing sucks though, opening is so much better.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Working the open in Wal-Mart meats was great. Pull expired goods, markdowns for fresh meat about to go off, then teardown the skids, organize the cooler, and maybe even do the throws. Made up for having to get up at 4:30.

I cannot stand opens at Michaels, there is nothing to do until the evening, so a four-hour shift simply does not end.

Dead Pikachu
Mar 25, 2007

I wish you were real.
So finally some retail stores decided they needed to hire some people and I got 5 phone calls on Tuesday for interviews. I literally got like maybe 2 phone calls in January, so this was a godsend. Sears wanted to hire me on the spot so bad with my past experience at Kmart, but they would only pay me minimum wage and would work me poo poo hours. Today I have interviews at Walmart (cashier, ugh), and both the "home improvement" stores. I hear that both home improvement stores are pretty awesome to work for, and I think it would be neat to learn a lot about home maintenance and stuff. I went through the phone screening for HD, and they offered 9.50 an hour with most weekends off. Hoping this isn't just a ploy to get me through the door.

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Dead Pikachu posted:

So finally some retail stores decided they needed to hire some people and I got 5 phone calls on Tuesday for interviews. I literally got like maybe 2 phone calls in January, so this was a godsend. Sears wanted to hire me on the spot so bad with my past experience at Kmart, but they would only pay me minimum wage and would work me poo poo hours. Today I have interviews at Walmart (cashier, ugh), and both the "home improvement" stores. I hear that both home improvement stores are pretty awesome to work for, and I think it would be neat to learn a lot about home maintenance and stuff. I went through the phone screening for HD, and they offered 9.50 an hour with most weekends off. Hoping this isn't just a ploy to get me through the door.

Home Depot is decent to work for if you have a good management team. The one I worked at years ago.. didn't.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

So my store is having a little competition for attachment numbers. I'm not the best at getting people to buy the cash crashers and I'm particularly terrible at selling cards, so I'm usually the one bringing our stores numbers down. I did okay on cash crashers yesterday though.

I heard yesterday that if our attachments remain lovely, then our hours will be cut even more, so things could get nasty.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if the company decided to shut down our store completely as being non-profitable.:/

If they do, I hope we have until August, cause that's as long as I need to last here before going back to school.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Nessa posted:

I heard yesterday that if our attachments remain lovely, then our hours will be cut even more, so things could get nasty.

They're going to cut your hours anyway, because there's always money to be made by cutting payroll and if that leads to poo poo not getting done it must be because you're all failures who should have worked harder, which justifies another round of hours cuts etc

Hot Dog Day #82
Jul 5, 2003

Soiled Meat
Has anyone here ever worked retail at a museum before? I am thinking of picking up a shift or two in a local one I like as a part time employee, but if it is as awful and soul depressing as big box retail I'll reconsider for sure. When I was in college I worked LP at Best Buy and loved it, buy sadly being a glorified door greater does not make the bacon these days :(

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Hot Dog Day #82 posted:

Has anyone here ever worked retail at a museum before? I am thinking of picking up a shift or two in a local one I like as a part time employee, but if it is as awful and soul depressing as big box retail I'll reconsider for sure. When I was in college I worked LP at Best Buy and loved it, buy sadly being a glorified door greater does not make the bacon these days :(

I've interviewed at nonprofits before and usually the retail divisions of big museums are run by a company separate from the actual museum - so keep in mind that you might be the equivalent of a cashier working at the museum Starbucks as opposed to working for the actual museum

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Pornographic Memory posted:

They're going to cut your hours anyway, because there's always money to be made by cutting payroll and if that leads to poo poo not getting done it must be because you're all failures who should have worked harder, which justifies another round of hours cuts etc

Well, we recently just lost a bunch of hours, which is causing one guy to start looking for a new job and my assistant manager is interviewing for new jobs as well. Any more cuts would mean the loss of another full time employee, leaving only 6 people left.

We get an average of 1-3 resumes per day, but mostly people looking for full time work, or students who can only work after 3 and on weekends. The other day, we had a girl submit a resume and she was a recent graduate of the program I'll be starting in September. She spent 2 years in school, only to be desperate for a retail job afterwards. It was a little disheartening.:/

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

Pornographic Memory posted:

They're going to cut your hours anyway, because there's always money to be made by cutting payroll and if that leads to poo poo not getting done it must be because you're all failures who should have worked harder, which justifies another round of hours cuts etc

Don't we all know.

I turned down a promotion today because my boss wanted me to take a position that involved a ton more duties, responsibility, and general 'work' for $1/hour more.

I told him I wanted the position, I was definitely capable and willing to do it, but not for that pay. His response: "Okay."

gently caress 'em.

Dead Pikachu
Mar 25, 2007

I wish you were real.
It was an interesting day of interviews! Everyone wants me, feels so good. Walmart wanted to offer me a Service Desk Manager position, and after doing research on that, they'd have to pay me more than $10 an hour for that amount of stress. gently caress Walmart. HD is offering me a part time position in their Merchandising team, which is what I have the most experience doing, I'd get weekends and nights off. Lowe's is seasonal (with 95% chance of being hired on after the season's over) with *potentially* 39 hours a week, but I'd have to work every weekend and a varied shift. They both start at $9.50 hr.

So goons, which would you choose? Less money, more life? *potentially* More money, less life?

I'm leaning towards HD because I like life more than money and my significant other helps pay my bills.

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Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax
What are your long term goals?

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