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Teenage Fansub posted:Hey look. We get a second new Superman costume today in Action Comics #39 when Soups pictures himself at the end of the world. I didn't realise the flesh tone on his arm is a bit of fabric or something (is it aquaman's fish scale shirt?), which I don't like as much as the idea that he's been around so long his suit is worn and missing a sleeve. I like it a lot better than the other superman costume though, because every bit of the design says "I'm old and worn out and I'm on my own". He's got the scruffy hobo hair with bits of grey, the superman S is backed on black instead of a happier yellow, the boots have those fat cuffs that make it look more like a 50s/60s superhero costume, which fits the simple, earnest narrative the page is trying to tell, and the scraps he's added to his costume work as mementos of his friends and also to give a piecemeal, end-of-society survivalist look to him. Even the individual objects he's chosen to keep make sense in that regard - a staff he can walk with, a belt with pockets on, a bit of protective armour. A good costume. Compare with the other superman costume, where he has obtained exciting new super energy powers, shown by slightly longer cuffs, and maybe a light up belt buckle that, when it is not lit up, does not look like it could light up. If it even lights up, and isn't a colouring error.
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SirDan3k posted:It was based off child acrobat costumes and then, like a lot of things in comics, inertia kept it going after long the style and legality of having child acrobats had changed. That makes sense, thanks. While I'm grousing, though, Summertime Batman raised another thing that bugs me --- don't these women ever get cold? If it's a meta or Kryptonian or some demi-goddess like WW, I can just handwave it as "oh well, y'know, powers". Heck, even Black Canary and Elektra I can suspend disbelief because "super ninja training". But drat, Huntress has to be freezing in Gotham winters. It'd be fun to see a good artist's take on seasonal costume shifts!
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Feb 4, 2015 17:02
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JacquelineDempsey posted:That makes sense, thanks. They could wear long johns under their costumes.
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Feb 4, 2015 17:05
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I can never, ever picture 'old' Superman without him mowing down Nazis and two Hitlers with a quad minigun.
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qntm posted:It boggled my mind that they never retconned those out in any of the Crises. They did with the New 52.  It's...not great. Actually, my favorite Robin costume has always been the one from Batman and Robin. I mean, aside from the nipples. I never noticed those when I was a kid. I am unperceptive. 
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Feb 4, 2015 17:32
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WickedHate posted:They did with the New 52. Haha oh wow someone got paid to come up with that. Apart from Batgirl, has the New52 come up with any new costumes that are actually, y'know, good? The new Supes, Flash, GL, and so on are just more-boring versions of their Silver Age costumes, only with panel lines for some reason. That Robin is gently caress-ugly.
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Feb 4, 2015 18:08
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DigitalRaven posted:Haha oh wow someone got paid to come up with that. Agreed, that Robin is terrible. I liked New52's "costume" for Action Comics Supes when that rebooted... just a country boy wearing a t-shirt, jeans, pair of workboots. Fit nicely with the story and character. They even showed in one issue how he got all the shirts printed, nice touch. I hated their Black Canary redesign. I don't know why, but her costume wasn't black anymore (and it wasn't a case of "well we gotta print some of it in blue" like you see in people with black hair and "blue" highlights because of printing limitations you had back in the day). That made no sense to me. Here we go: note Katana's outfit is black. So Black Canary's is clearly blue, it's not a printing limitation. WTF, DC? She's not the Dark Teal Canary.  I did like that Ivy redesign, though.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:12
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JacquelineDempsey posted:I hated their Black Canary redesign. I don't know why people redesign her costume, there has never been an example of that being an improvement.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:22
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If she traded fishnets for scale mail and got a fancy hat, she could go around impersonating Barda.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:46
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Katana's outfit is the real crime here.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:49
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Alhazred posted:I don't know why people redesign her costume, there has never been an example of that being an improvement. Eh, I'll say that I like what they've done on Arrow. Sure, it's not classic Canary in fishnets, but as a woman who occasionally can't shut up her brain with the "IT'S COMICS" argument, especially seeing it live action vs in art, I gotta say it's more practical. And less chilly. (It's pretty cold where I live, today, maybe that's why I'm harping on the bare skin thing. Wish I was Power Girl and gave no fucks about the heating bill.  )edit: that said, I really liked Canary's look in Smallville and oh god I just admitted to watching Smallville at some point JacquelineDempsey fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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Feb 4, 2015 19:57
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WickedHate posted:Actually, my favorite Robin costume has always been the one from Batman and Robin. I mean, aside from the nipples. I never noticed those when I was a kid. I am unperceptive. That's just red Nightwing.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:00
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Lurdiak posted:Katana's outfit is the real crime here. Why do you disrespect glorious Katana's costume, baka gaijin?
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Feb 4, 2015 20:01
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Aphrodite posted:That's just red Nightwing. I know! Nightwing was my idol as as kid. It looks better there then the New 52 red Nightwing does, though.
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Feb 4, 2015 20:08
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JacquelineDempsey posted:That makes sense, thanks. I always thought that'd be neat too, I loved it when Nite Owl broke out his (ant)arctic gear at the end of Watchmen. Situational costume variants are cool, I even bought into the stuff they did in Superman TAS even though it was an obvious bid for more action figures.
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Feb 4, 2015 21:36
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Aphrodite posted:That's just red Nightwing.
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McSpanky posted:I always thought that'd be neat too, I loved it when Nite Owl broke out his (ant)arctic gear at the end of Watchmen. Situational costume variants are cool, I even bought into the stuff they did in Superman TAS even though it was an obvious bid for more action figures. Right on! (and good reference on Nite Owl, that's a fantastic example of what exactly I want.) It doesn't have to be XTREEEME 90's Batman figures with 50 thousand outfits or anything, Just "okay, it's winter in Gotham, maybe Huntress should not have her belly exposed while swinging around highrises during inclement cold weather".
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Feb 4, 2015 22:40
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DigitalRaven posted:Haha oh wow someone got paid to come up with that. I like Animal Man's  Adam + Alanna Strange   Orion  Red Lantern Guy Gardner w/ mustache  Justice League 3000 Batman and Superman  e: And Catwoman looks sharp these days. 
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Feb 4, 2015 23:09
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Right on! (and good reference on Nite Owl, that's a fantastic example of what exactly I want.) It doesn't have to be XTREEEME 90's Batman figures with 50 thousand outfits or anything, Just "okay, it's winter in Gotham, maybe Huntress should not have her belly exposed while swinging around highrises during inclement cold weather". I liked Batman's flight suit from Hush, and the diving suit from the Supergirl arc of Loeb's Superman/Batman.
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Feb 4, 2015 23:12
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Animal Man's has an A stylized to the point where if I didn't know the only way of representing animal powers was a giant A on your chest I wouldn't know what it was other than arrows pointing to his heads, and it has that stupid Gambit cowl. Other than avoiding the blue/orange combination I'm not sure what it has to commend it for.
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Feb 4, 2015 23:19
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Ghostlight posted:Animal Man's has an A stylized to the point where if I didn't know the only way of representing animal powers was a giant A on your chest I wouldn't know what it was other than arrows pointing to his heads, and it has that stupid Gambit cowl. Other than avoiding the blue/orange combination I'm not sure what it has to commend it for. Buddy had Gambit's weird head thing years before Gambit was a thing though?
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Feb 4, 2015 23:24
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He did spend half the run in just the 'M' pants.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Buddy had Gambit's weird head thing years before Gambit was a thing though?
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Teenage Fansub posted:Examples I agree with all of these. The Animal Man one is hardest since it's the last recognizable to me, but the overall design is simple and catchy. The others are all pretty good evolutions of the original looks. Orion and Adam Strange really won in the reboot designs. New Raven and the Starfire costumes have been pretty awful though, and that Robin up there is a literal joke that can't be real, because this is reality, and that thing doesn't belong in my reality.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Buddy had Gambit's weird head thing years before Gambit was a thing though?
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Chinaman7000 posted:Orion and Adam Strange really won in the reboot designs. Is Orion still flying around in that harness? Because man, that is one of the worst Kirby creations ever.
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Feb 5, 2015 03:42
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Yup. His lil space scooter rules, though.
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SirDan3k posted:It was based off child acrobat costumes and then, like a lot of things in comics, inertia kept it going long after the style and legality of having child acrobats had changed. And they were retconned onto New Teen Titans-era Dick during Nightwing: Year One (which many people ignore due to being dead in the middle of Devin Grayson's run).
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WickedHate posted:Is Orion still flying around in that harness? Because man, that is one of the worst Kirby creations ever. It's the best worst thing and I'd be sad if he didn't have it.
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WickedHate posted:Actually, my favorite Robin costume has always been the one from Batman and Robin. I mean, aside from the nipples. I never noticed those when I was a kid. I am unperceptive. This is basically a live action Batman Beyond costume, minus a helmet.
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Anora posted:This is basically a live action Batman Beyond costume, minus a helmet. Another great point in it's favor, I never thought about it that way.
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WickedHate posted:Is Orion still flying around in that harness? Because man, that is one of the worst Kirby creations ever.   RIDIN' DIRTY
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Chinaman7000 posted:New Raven and the Starfire costumes have been pretty awful though, and that Robin up there is a literal joke that can't be real, because this is reality, and that thing doesn't belong in my reality. I laugh every time I see feathered Raven. Its so stupidly literal.
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Feb 5, 2015 13:37
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Honestly, all the character redesigns in Wonder Woman were really good.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Hey look. We get a second new Superman costume today in Action Comics #39 when Soups pictures himself at the end of the world. Bullshit, that's not how Superman grows a beard!  I am so sorry.
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Feb 5, 2015 20:15
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Why does everyone in the future turn into the Maestro?
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Feb 5, 2015 20:28
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Irish Joe posted:I laugh every time I see feathered Raven. Its so stupidly literal. This is probably her best look.  I also like her animated design. 
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Say Nothing posted:This is probably her best look. Isn't that just Psylocke with a cape and hood? I don't know which design came first, so it might be the other way around, but I always hated Psylocke's costume.
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Skwirl posted:Isn't that just Psylocke with a cape and hood? I don't know which design came first, so it might be the other way around, but I always hated Psylocke's costume. That's very close to Raven's original 1980 look, except in her original look a) she wore shoes, not thigh-high boots and b) the skirt bit wasn't so skimpy in front or cut so high over her hips. So I'd say it predates Psylocke by quite a bit.
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1980. Pretty much the same, except more skirt, less chest.
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