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Has anyone compiled a list of what's definitively true out of that scummy wrestling stories list? There's plenty of outlandish things in there I've heard totally confirmed by people who were there or knew the guy. So "wrestling", but close enough. My favorite is still Arn Anderson passing out in a bar, not spilling his beer all night, getting woken up by a cop and pissing himself.
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Timby posted:Undertaker / HHH at WrestleMania 27 followed by a three-minute Snooki match and Miz / Cena. DeathChicken posted:Taker/Punk followed by Triple H/Brock at Mania 29 comes to mind too. There's also 25 where Taker/HBK, one of the best matches of the decade, was followed by Orton/HHH, a boring match that wouldn't look out of place on Raw.
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Feb 6, 2015 02:35
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a retard posted:There's also 25 where Taker/HBK, one of the best matches of the decade, was followed by Orton/HHH, a boring match that wouldn't look out of place on Raw. 25 was just one of the worst Manias ever.
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Feb 6, 2015 03:05
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One of my favorite examples of the opposite circumstance is Royal Rumble 2003, where Steiner/HHH was followed by Angle/Benoit. I always wonder how the MSG would have reacted had the match order been reversed.
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Feb 6, 2015 03:15
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a retard posted:There's also 25 where Taker/HBK, one of the best matches of the decade, was followed by Orton/HHH, a boring match that wouldn't look out of place on Raw. Orton/HHH also had one of the worst builds, after one of the best starts, ever. Both guys ended up less over than when they started.
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Feb 6, 2015 03:51
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Aesop Poprock posted:I only got to see Danielson live once (during tie-gate against Shingo in Philly) and he didn't even get to do the entrance, it was probably the most disappointing thing ever. There wasn't even a good excuse for it they just skipped it for no reason I saw him do it plenty in Chicago during that era. It was always amazing. Doo doo dooooooo 
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Feb 6, 2015 04:12
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Are there any compilations out there of all the insane Vince McMahon stories out there? The poo poo stick, the leaves, all the goofy stuff you hear about. Like a pastebin or something? I'd love to just see that character all in one place.
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Feb 6, 2015 04:17
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Timby posted:25 was just one of the worst Manias ever. Yeah other than Taker/Shawn that card is up and down awful.
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Feb 6, 2015 04:17
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ZDar Fan posted:One of my favorite examples of the opposite circumstance is Royal Rumble 2003, where Steiner/HHH was followed by Angle/Benoit. I always wonder how the MSG would have reacted had the match order been reversed. Probably pretty quietly since that show was in Boston.
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Feb 6, 2015 04:19
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Under the vegetable posted:Are there any compilations out there of all the insane Vince McMahon stories out there? The poo poo stick, the leaves, all the goofy stuff you hear about. Like a pastebin or something? I'd love to just see that character all in one place. Somebody should start a "crazy Vince McMahon stories thread full of crazy vince mcmahon stories" thread. hes pretty crazy. and on the earlier topic of WCW's "dirty tactics" during the monday night wars, I'd say the only real dirty tactic that I can think of is them outright spoiling the results of the taped Raw as the show is starting. That goes beyond the usual making fun of/mocking/running down the other company.
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Feb 6, 2015 04:33
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What the gently caress was up with the Boogeyman, like who came up him and who thought he was a good idea
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Feb 6, 2015 04:57
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I can't remember which doc it was that had Vince saying something like "my motto is - help yourself, don't hurt the other guy" in reference to WCW's business. It was AMAZING.
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Feb 6, 2015 04:59
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Yeah other than Taker/Shawn that card is up and down awful. And the MITB match.
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Kim Justice posted:I can't remember which doc it was that had Vince saying something like "my motto is - help yourself, don't hurt the other guy" in reference to WCW's business. It was AMAZING. Pretty sure that's from the Rise and Fall of ECW, which is well worth watching on the Network if you've never seen it. It's apparent that Vince wasn't threatened by ECW, so they tell the story as it was, and it's amazing.
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Feb 6, 2015 06:03
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Smoking Crow posted:What the gently caress was up with the Boogeyman, like who came up him and who thought he was a good idea that guy was an amazing charismatic presence and could sell the gently caress out of any character but since he started wrestling when he was 100 years old he couldn't ever crest higher than a jobber to the stars so why not give him a wacky gimmick that he can play to the max? the boogeyman was a good idea. it's me. i think that
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Feb 6, 2015 06:17
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Timby posted:25 was just one of the worst Manias ever. Up there with 9, 11 and 12?
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Feb 6, 2015 06:23
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ColeM posted:Up there with 9, 11 and 12? Not by a long shot. Beyond HBK-UT, 25 has a good MITB, a good Hardy-Hardy match, and a fairly entertaining triple threat world title match. Also, the Jericho-Legends match has a great performance from Ricky Steamboat. Honestly, if the main event wasn't such dogshit, it'd be remembered much better.
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Feb 6, 2015 06:41
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Luigi Thirty posted:Has anyone compiled a list of what's definitively true out of that scummy wrestling stories list? Don't ruin the magic! It's all true, every bit of it
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Feb 6, 2015 16:38
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But that, in turn, ruins the magic of Dynamite Kid really being an even bigger psychopath than Matt Hughes.
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Feb 6, 2015 16:57
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triplexpac posted:Don't ruin the magic! It's all true, every bit of it I always knew every wrestler was both gay and had sex with Missy Hyatt, a donkey, and their tag team partner in that order
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Feb 6, 2015 17:04
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Halloween Jack posted:But that, in turn, ruins the magic of Dynamite Kid really being an even bigger psychopath than Matt Hughes. Dynamite Kid at least had to know he was totally evil and hosed up, Hughes thinks being a horrifying psychopath is just good old country boy antics
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Feb 6, 2015 17:22
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triplexpac posted:I always liked Devitt coming out to "You're the Best". Also obvious, but still funny, is Danielson coming out to Final Countdown. Funny enough, hearing it played live at two EVOLVE shows after he won were the only exposure I'd had to the song so I mentally associate it with being a badass rather than cheesiness.
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Feb 6, 2015 17:53
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Had Pillman not been on drugs and died, what could he have been? WWF Champ? Hall Of Famer?
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Feb 6, 2015 18:55
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magnum_valentino posted:Had Pillman not been on drugs and died, what could he have been? WWF Champ? Hall Of Famer? Hall of Famer, probably, but not champ. I think the car accident that had led to his drug abuse severally limited to what he could do in the ring.
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Feb 6, 2015 18:59
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He was the first guy ever signed to a guaranteed contract in WWE even with the state of his ankle, so yeah, he probably would have been something special.
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Feb 6, 2015 19:01
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Nerokerubina posted:that guy was an amazing charismatic presence and could sell the gently caress out of any character but since he started wrestling when he was 100 years old he couldn't ever crest higher than a jobber to the stars so why not give him a wacky gimmick that he can play to the max? the boogeyman was a good idea. it's me. i think that Didn't those alarm clocks hurt his head
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Feb 6, 2015 19:10
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Davros1 posted:Hall of Famer, probably, but not champ. I think the car accident that had led to his drug abuse severally limited to what he could do in the ring. Kerry von Erich had one foot and he went for years, and Pillman was as good on the mic as he was in the ring. As long as he could talk and brawl he'd be fine even if he couldn't be Flyin' Brian anymore.
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Feb 6, 2015 19:26
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Luigi Thirty posted:Kerry von Erich had one foot and he went for years, and Pillman was as good on the mic as he was in the ring. As long as he could talk and brawl he'd be fine even if he couldn't be Flyin' Brian anymore. I feel like using Kerry von Erich as an example that someone could be "fine" is wrong. But maybe that's just me haha.
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Feb 6, 2015 19:45
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triplexpac posted:I feel like using Kerry von Erich as an example that someone could be "fine" is wrong. But maybe that's just me haha. His level of "fine" was on par with post-accident Brian Pillman and he was an intercontinental champion!
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Feb 6, 2015 19:55
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Luigi Thirty posted:His level of "fine" was on par with post-accident Brian Pillman and he was an intercontinental champion! It's not the workrate I was raising question with, it was him being addicted to painkillers and killing himself. Using him as an example for someone to strive for was funny, that's all.
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Feb 6, 2015 19:58
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Luigi Thirty posted:My favorite is still Arn Anderson passing out in a bar, not spilling his beer all night, getting woken up by a cop and pissing himself. That could really easily be true.
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Feb 6, 2015 20:37
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Smoking Crow posted:Didn't those alarm clocks hurt his head The Boogeyman used to have a big staff that spewed red smoke out of the top. One time he left it turned on next to the ring steps and it left a red stain on them for months afterward.
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Feb 6, 2015 20:48
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TL posted:Not by a long shot. Beyond HBK-UT, 25 has a good MITB, a good Hardy-Hardy match, and a fairly entertaining triple threat world title match. Also, the Jericho-Legends match has a great performance from Ricky Steamboat. Honestly, if the main event wasn't such dogshit, it'd be remembered much better. That said you're better off just watching HBK-UT then watching Backlash from the next month which for all intents and purposes operates as a do over.
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Feb 6, 2015 20:54
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Ice To Meet You posted:The Boogeyman used to have a big staff that spewed red smoke out of the top. One time he left it turned on next to the ring steps and it left a red stain on them for months afterward. That . . . That couldn't be healthy to breath in.
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Feb 7, 2015 00:36
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Looking at Pro Fight DB at Undertaker's star ratings. -Breaking Point 09 main event, CM Punk submits Undertaker in under 9 minutes. Why/how did this happen - is this the one where he was pinning Punk at the same time or something stupid like that? Who thought it was a good idea for Undertaker to submit in under 10 minutes and why was it so short in the first place? I also noticed in the fall of 2010 Kane beat Undertaker on three straight PPVs over about a month and a half and none topped **. Glad I wasn't watching then.
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Feb 7, 2015 01:23
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Bigass Moth posted:Looking at Pro Fight DB at Undertaker's star ratings. They decided to do a Montreal finish and hinted at some involvement between McMahon and Punk. This was promptly dropped after Punk got heat for not dressing like a champion and dropped the belt in the PPV opener the next month.
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Feb 7, 2015 01:26
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Bigass Moth posted:I also noticed in the fall of 2010 Kane beat Undertaker on three straight PPVs over about a month and a half and none topped **. Glad I wasn't watching then. Was this the "Persistent Vegetative State" feud?
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Feb 7, 2015 01:47
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Bigass Moth posted:
Hey pal you put those together you got yourself a 6 star match!
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Nerokerubina posted:that guy was an amazing charismatic presence and could sell the gently caress out of any character but since he started wrestling when he was 100 years old he couldn't ever crest higher than a jobber to the stars so why not give him a wacky gimmick that he can play to the max? the boogeyman was a good idea. it's me. i think that The Boogeyman loving owned and I was happy to see him in the Rumble, and . He's great at scaring kids (and adults).
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MassRafTer posted:They decided to do a Montreal finish and hinted at some involvement between McMahon and Punk. This was promptly dropped after Punk got heat for not dressing like a champion and dropped the belt in the PPV opener the next month. At first I couldn't believe that they would actually do this at the time but it came out later that Taker didn't really like Punk at the time and there was of course no shortage of guys backstage trying to make sure Punk failed.
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