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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


FMguru posted:

(score: -1, redundant)

I like that Slashdot gives every post some points so their users can score occasionally.

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Citizen Tayne posted:

I like that Slashdot gives every post some points so their users can score occasionally.

Dolomite
Jul 26, 2000
Cars & Legs

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

do people even need qualifications to get into school mgmt?

know this was pages back, but in this district its a master's degree. there have been teachers with two or so years of classroom experience that go from teacher to campus administration.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

FMguru posted:

starting salary $34000, livin' the easy life

But they get the whole summer off!!! And Christmas and all the holidays!! Those teachers have it super easy let me tell you

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

And they're all members of UNIONS, the most un-American thing there is

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
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Citizen Tayne posted:

I mean jesus christ, most of our action movie "heroes" are elderly

this is a boomer thing

The key to understanding the “why now?” of this current trend isn’t just economics and genre atrophy, however. Amongst non-movie-stars, there’s a general societal expectation that when you get older in the work force you should make way for younger generations. Boomers in particular are being pressured to do so. But no one wants to be pushed into obsolescence, especially since life hardly ends at 65. That’s something that will be particularly true for Boomers, a generation probably positioned better than any other previous one to have active post-retirement lives. It’s telling that The Last Stand’s poster tagline is a blatant rejection of what is expected of Boomers right now: “Retirement is for sissies.”

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
The thrashing and screaming of the Boomer leviathan's death throes will leave no corner of the country un-leveled by the time it stops whimpering and twitching

which is probably going to be 20-30 years from now, it's not even started coughing yet

:smithicide:

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Mr Dog posted:

The thrashing and screaming of the Boomer leviathan's death throes will leave no corner of the country un-leveled by the time it stops whimpering and twitching

which is probably going to be 20-30 years from now, it's not even started coughing yet

:smithicide:

enjoy them driving up medical rates to cartoonish levels and then paying for them by reverse mortgaging the houses their kids think they're gonna get

lmfao kids of boomers are going to get their poo poo pushed in

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
the only way to destroy the boomers is to start cutting off their entitlements now.

Elder Postsman
Aug 30, 2000


i used hot bot to search for "teens"

Shaggar posted:

the only way to destroy the boomers is to start cutting off their heads now.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

nationalize twitter

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
sounds good, who the gently caress do we vote for that we can get the under-40s to more or less agree on

i mean we could institute higher minimum wage, higher taxes on wealth and generally a bunch of anti-hoarding economic policy, and more robust social services (i'm not even going to pipe-dream about gmi) but you see then the loving nigurban ferals might benefit from it and that might encourage them to go do more of that looting and raping they always seem so predisposed to doing

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

The most depressing thing to me is how boomers' greed has caused them to defund education because they don't personally use it. Kids are effectively having to pay their own parents for the privilege of learning, when essentially every society on the planet that isn't America has believed for millennia that education is something to be passed down freely from an honored, knowledgeable elder to the new generation.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
we need to all vote to eliminate medicare + social security + any other unfunded liabilities. if you are a fan of any of those things you are supporting the boomers.

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May 5, 2005



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Sagebrush posted:

The most depressing thing to me is how boomers' greed has caused them to defund education because they don't personally use it. Kids are effectively having to pay their own parents for the privilege of learning, when essentially every society on the planet that isn't America has believed for millennia that education is something to be passed down freely from an honored, knowledgeable elder to the new generation.

they were told they were immortal and perfect because they were born out of Freedom's Victory. Then they realized that wasn't true, and vowed to give nothing back that they took, for they had been lied to by people who are now dead.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
ok if we're gonna lf-post, let's get real:

social security and medicare should be means-tested programs

and the tax liability should be un-capped

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Sagebrush posted:

The most depressing thing to me is how boomers' greed has caused them to defund education because they don't personally use it. Kids are effectively having to pay their own parents for the privilege of learning, when essentially every society on the planet that isn't America has believed for millennia that education is something to be passed down freely from an honored, knowledgeable elder to the new generation.

This is the case of every single system they moved through. Boomer retirements are being paid for by selling their homes to their childrens' generation for many multiples of what they should cost according to CPI.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Citizen Tayne posted:

This is the case of every single system they moved through. Boomer retirements are being paid for by selling their homes to their childrens' generation for many multiples of what they should cost according to CPI.

or just reverse mortgaging their homes and pissing it away on Carnival cruises.

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

ok if we're gonna lf-post, let's get real:

social security and medicare should be means-tested programs

and the tax liability should be un-capped

sorry we're busy pretending that ss is a retirement account and not the direct wealth transfer it really is so

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Munkeymon posted:

sorry we're busy pretending that ss is a retirement account and not the direct wealth transfer it really is so

SS is largely responsible for eradicating elder poverty, which used to be immense.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Citizen Tayne posted:

This is the case of every single system they moved through. Boomer retirements are being paid for by selling their homes to their childrens' generation for many multiples of what they should cost according to CPI.

affordability of housing hasn't changed that much. the amount that households pay monthly to keep a roof over their heads, as a fraction of income, hasn't gone up as fast as home prices

what happened is that the fed's interest rates have fallen from 11% in 1973* to 0% today. home values have skyrocketed because people will pay as much as they can afford to get the "right" house and school district

it's gonna be a real ugly situation when interest rates rise above 0% for the first time in six years. home prices will crater, regardless of other economic factors. wages only go so far, and the more you are paying in mortgage interest, the less you are paying for that house




*1973 is also the magic year that saw the highest (inflation adjusted) wages in history

Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Feb 6, 2015

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Nov 18, 2010

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Jonny 290 posted:

enjoy them driving up medical rates to cartoonish levels and then paying for them by reverse mortgaging the houses their kids think they're gonna get

lmfao kids of boomers are going to get their poo poo pushed in

owning property is literally evil so this isn't a problem

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Jonny 290 posted:

enjoy them driving up medical rates to cartoonish levels and then paying for them by reverse mortgaging the houses their kids think they're gonna get

lmfao kids of boomers are going to get their poo poo pushed in

banks are gonna "get their poo poo pushed in" by reverse mortgages. every one is a massive bet on long-term housing prices

guess who pays when banks lose money

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

guess who pays when banks lose money

you and me :buddy:

Enderzero
Jun 19, 2001

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

banks are gonna "get their poo poo pushed in" by reverse mortgages. every one is a massive bet on long-term housing prices

guess who pays when banks lose money

i dont have to guess i was alive in 2008

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

this is a boomer thing

The key to understanding the “why now?” of this current trend isn’t just economics and genre atrophy, however. Amongst non-movie-stars, there’s a general societal expectation that when you get older in the work force you should make way for younger generations. Boomers in particular are being pressured to do so. But no one wants to be pushed into obsolescence, especially since life hardly ends at 65. That’s something that will be particularly true for Boomers, a generation probably positioned better than any other previous one to have active post-retirement lives. It’s telling that The Last Stand’s poster tagline is a blatant rejection of what is expected of Boomers right now: “Retirement is for sissies.”

this article calls vin diesel and the rock "false starters" which i consider personally offensive

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

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DolphinCop posted:

this article calls vin diesel and the rock "false starters" which i consider personally offensive

i demand proof of your rock/dieselness

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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lmao both of those dudes are incredible hard workers that have efforted harder in their careers than arnold or sly or any of those fuckos

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yeah that statham kid, real pussy piece of poo poo

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Munkeymon posted:

sorry we're busy pretending that ss is a retirement account and not the direct wealth transfer it really is so

back when they used to talk about making ss into an actual honest-to-god retirement account, i was never sure whether they actually believed in the policy, or just wanted to bankrupt the government

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

vin diesel self-funded a good chunk of the last riddick movie

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

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mr diesel in particular had a really rough start b/c he's either not white enough for many roles or not black enough for the remainder

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Jonny 290 posted:

lmao both of those dudes are incredible hard workers that have efforted harder in their careers than arnold or sly or any of those fuckos

I think Arnolds probably worked pretty hard back when he was an Austrian immigrant running a gym in a lovely part of LA

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

back when they used to talk about making ss into an actual honest-to-god retirement account, i was never sure whether they actually believed in the policy, or just wanted to bankrupt the government

oh man social security privatization would have broken the stock market so badly since p much every publicly traded company would drop everything and scramble to get into one of the approved funds and whoever chose or managed those funds would basically have been emperor/empress of the entire global economy

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

back when they used to talk about making ss into an actual honest-to-god retirement account, i was never sure whether they actually believed in the policy, or just wanted to bankrupt the government

it's both lol

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

And your might wanna be careful jonny bc ranking people s worth by how hard they work comes awfully close to a bootstraps argument against poverty

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May 5, 2005



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Sagebrush posted:

And your might wanna be careful jonny bc ranking people s worth by how hard they work comes awfully close to a bootstraps argument against poverty

If "you'll be successful if you work hard" was honestly true, our president would be a five foot two Mexican roofer from the Dallas suburbs.

I'm just saying that boomer action stars are pieces of poo poo, by and large.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

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qirex posted:

oh man social security privatization would have broken the stock market so badly since p much every publicly traded company would drop everything and scramble to get into one of the approved funds and whoever chose or managed those funds would basically have been emperor/empress of the entire global economy

bush the lesser was a p cool dude

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Citizen Tayne posted:

I mean jesus christ, most of our action movie "heroes" are elderly

a lot of tv show heroes too. how many big crime shows have the older guy who always goes with his gut and breaks all the rules, is an expert on basically everything crime-y except for specialist forensics crap and those newfangled computers and phones that he just can't figure out, but that's okay because he has lazy millenial weirdos (who look up to him like a father) secluded in their own little labs that he can call up when he needs that poo poo figured out, except he didn't really need it because his gut has already deciphered every aspect of the case by the time those punk kids get back to him, and also he is literally always right about everything

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Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Main Paineframe posted:

a lot of tv show heroes too. how many big crime shows have the older guy who always goes with his gut and breaks all the rules, is an expert on basically everything crime-y except for specialist forensics crap and those newfangled computers and phones that he just can't figure out, but that's okay because he has lazy millenial weirdos (who look up to him like a father) secluded in their own little labs that he can call up when he needs that poo poo figured out, except he didn't really need it because his gut has already deciphered every aspect of the case by the time those punk kids get back to him, and also he is literally always right about everything

literally has been a trope since Dracula

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