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mastajake
Oct 3, 2005

My blade is unBENDING!

Use a 5 star weapon with +fire. C4 repeatedly.

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Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Zore posted:

So, Darunia's level 3. Any tips?

So far its the only map I've actually gotten below an A on two conditions (time, damage) and so the solution doesn't seem to be just dodging better. That loving gangbang of Moblins at your base takes forever to kill and they can just pile the hurt on if you lose track of one of them.

Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

Darunia's level 3 took me several tries. One thing that was a huge help was having a 5 star level 2 weapon with Strength IV and Fire+ on it, because his C4 combo is a ridiculous crowd clearer that just gets even better with those two abilities. I think the path I eventually followed was something like:

- At the start, run forward and use C4 on Ganondorf's group of dudes once or twice.
- Go to the objective keep just south of there and lower its health but don't capture it.
- Head south while quickly killing the two Siege Captains that spawn.
- Take out the two objective keeps in the far south.
- Ignore the objective Shield Moblin that spawns in your keep until he moves to your Allied Base. Instead, finish taking the keep you weakened at the start and then take the final objective keep.
- Clear your base out. If you have to use Magic, do it. Otherwise, use the C4 combo a lot, use specials when they're stocked up, and weak point smashes when convenient. Also, it seemed like getting a Shield Moblin to block exactly two attacks made them belly flop often, so you can try to exploit that to help out.
- Finally, murder Link. This is the easy part of the scenario.

I wouldn't try to get the extra heart container and piece of heart in the same run; there's just too much stuff to do to spare the time to take those two extra keeps unless you're already overleveled.

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

i just found an extremely awesome magic ring with 7 slots, two x4000 sealed skills, a x1000, and a x25000. probably the best weapon i've ever got

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


there's one more dlc pack coming right? what's going to be in that

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Awesome! posted:

there's one more dlc pack coming right? what's going to be in that

"2 new game modes" is the only thing mentioned.

I'm betting on some manner of playable giant boss mode

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008


it will contain 2 game modes, and according to the official site, be only 3 dollars in comparison to the other packs, so no idea what those two modes are.

Krysmphoenix
Jul 29, 2010
Probably 2 new types of Challenge modes, like the faron woods run which is delightfully boring.

Adam Bowen
Jan 6, 2003

This post probably contains a Rickroll link!
Are you meant to play through the adventure mode maps in order? I tried Twilight and Termina and got my rear end kicked immediately, I don't know how I feel about going through all of Adventure Mode since it seems like a lot of content.

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

The next pack is called the Boss Pack or something, right? I was hoping you get to play all the generic bad guy captains. Other Warriors games have done something similar, I thought?

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.

Adam Bowen posted:

Are you meant to play through the adventure mode maps in order? I tried Twilight and Termina and got my rear end kicked immediately, I don't know how I feel about going through all of Adventure Mode since it seems like a lot of content.

Seems like Termina is easier than Twilight, but you should finish both Adventure and Master Quest first. They're definitely tuned for lower level characters.

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh
Fun Shoe

Adam Bowen posted:

Are you meant to play through the adventure mode maps in order? I tried Twilight and Termina and got my rear end kicked immediately, I don't know how I feel about going through all of Adventure Mode since it seems like a lot of content.

Yeah, Twilight is super high level and enemies do gently caress-tons of damage. Termina not so much, but enough that even with level 100 characters I'm having trouble getting A-ranks consistently.

Adam Bowen
Jan 6, 2003

This post probably contains a Rickroll link!
My Link is about 40 and everyone else is mostly below 20 so I am way down there. I like the first Adventure Mode well enough, just thought it would have been fun to branch into some of the other maps for a bit.

Haruharuharuko
Mar 24, 2008

Yeah I lied; so what is the truth?

5 amiibos 5 rupees gently caress you game.

THE FUCKING MOON
Jan 19, 2008
At your level you could maybe make some progress on the Master Quest map, but really I would just stick with the regular adventure map. You're going to need those tier 3 weapons to get by on the others and Master Quest doesn't have as many useful goodies to offer as the first. Maybe go out of your way to get Volgas level 3? It's close to the start of the Master Quest map and it's not hard at all.

I just finished Ghirahim's 8-bit weapon mission on Master Quest, it was the last costume/weapon I had to get on the map and holy poo poo, I think it was one of the hardest ones by far. I like playing Ghirahim alright, but he's still really janky compared to most characters. 12k kills are hard to come by, staying under 4k damage is even harder, and doing it all in 15 minutes while having to cap it off with Dodongo, who just may not decide to reveal his weakpoint until it's too late to do anything about OH AND ALSO FI'S BACK AT BASE GETTING WRECKED... poo poo it's one of the hardest missions I've had to deal with in a long time.

edit: Everyone, especially Volga, just does hideous damage on that map. You can tank one, maybe 2 combos from him. Impa and Wizro do a shitton of damage too, but it's probably Volga who will give you trouble. It's one of those missions that isn't 10k damage, but really should be.

THE FUCKING MOON fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Feb 7, 2015

Arbitrary Coin
Feb 17, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion
So I just tried out a level 1 Young Link on the "rack up kills" mission on the bottom left. Holy poo poo this is everything I could ever want :allears:

I was pretty much in focus mode all the time and got over 3k and over 30 levels in one go. Pretty much all of his combos are great. Fierce Diety is great. You're probably sacrificing a kid's soul for it, but eh worth it.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Got Zant's level 3 scimitars in 2 gos. Buff is real.

Incidentally, it looks like you can't choose a different weapon on weapon unlock missions anymore? At least, I didn't have the option on level 3 baton.

Dresh
Jun 15, 2008

hrmph.

Haruharuharuko posted:

5 amiibos 5 rupees gently caress you game.

I'm glad I've finally started getting more level 3 weapons so my amiibo can actually give me something besides Spinners and Dominion Rods.

Arbitrary Coin posted:

So I just tried out a level 1 Young Link on the "rack up kills" mission on the bottom left. Holy poo poo this is everything I could ever want :allears:

I was pretty much in focus mode all the time and got over 3k and over 30 levels in one go. Pretty much all of his combos are great. Fierce Diety is great. You're probably sacrificing a kid's soul for it, but eh worth it.

Young Link is so much fun. I've started using him to take out Network Links since I don't need to worry about how long those take. I gave him all three of his Special meters as soon as I could, now I just need to farm more Gohma Acid to make them fill faster and buff his Focus Spirit.

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!
Just played Ganondorf's Return, level owned, this game was worth the purchase just to play as Ganondorf.

Vanrushal
Apr 2, 2005

I thought my Spitter was a Jockey!

Rand Brittain posted:

Got Zant's level 3 scimitars in 2 gos. Buff is real.

Incidentally, it looks like you can't choose a different weapon on weapon unlock missions anymore? At least, I didn't have the option on level 3 baton.

I'm pretty sure that for characters who have more than one weapon you can use whatever you want for the level 2 unlock, but level 3 wants you to use the same weapon type. Then again, I only remember using Rapier for Baton 2 and Lana's Book for Gate 2 off the top of my head.

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh
Fun Shoe
Ganondorf got super-buffed in the last patch, it's really awesome.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

codenameFANGIO posted:

The next pack is called the Boss Pack or something, right? I was hoping you get to play all the generic bad guy captains. Other Warriors games have done something similar, I thought?

In the Dynasty Warriors games every unique NPC was always playable, but you couldn't play as the generic guys (although Lu Meng, a Wu officer, had the "generic spear guy" moveset). A couple of them had create-an-officer modes where your guys looked somewhat generic though (I can't recall, the only one I ever messed with was 4's and that was ages ago).

The Samurai Warriors games however did have unique NPCs that weren't playable, such as the first game having Yoshimoto Imagawa, Ieyasu Tokugawa and Hideyoshi Toyotomi. Hideyoshi and Yoshimoto became playable in the Samurai Warriors XL expansion, whereas Ieyasu wasn't playable until Samurai Warriors 2.

Warriors Orochi did kinda the same thing, with some of the generic enemy officers becoming playable in the sequel, Dodomeki and Gyuki style officers became playable but the Diamondback style officers didn't.

I guess they could potentially make the generic captains playable, though they'd have to come up with full movesets for them since I'm pretty sure they don't have any at the moment.

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!
Wait, holy poo poo, I actually get an entire Ganondorf campaign.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Zant is a blast to play now. He's not Cia or Twili Midna tier or anything, but he's actually effective and mowing down hordes of mooks is super fun. Young Link is just another Link in playstyle (he now has three nearly identical swords!), and I have no idea how the hell Tingle works. They've done such a great job with every patch and addition to this game.

Hopefully they'll patch the bad load times, though.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

alcharagia posted:

Wait, holy poo poo, I actually get an entire Ganondorf campaign.

This is a Warriors game. "The bad guys" are just another faction.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
So the fact that nobody has said anything makes me doubt myself but I just have to ask...does anyone else think the AI is WAY smarter now? I was accustomed to the enemy AI showing the intelligence of a 6 year old. Enemies would bumble around in place doing nothing. Commanders would pick their nose while you beat up all their buddies rather than helping. Your allies seem to think war is an intense staring contest since they never attack anything. I could literally stand in front of enemies for 20+ seconds doing absolutely nothing and not get hit because the AI was so brain dead.

So at first I thought I was crazy when it felt like the enemy was behaving intelligently. The more I played the more it felt like this was the case though. For the first time, it actually felt like the enemy was actually fighting with some intelligence rather than flailing about impotently. Some examples;

-Commanders moving in groups and all attacking at the same time rather than hanging back doing nothing. Before I could easily fight groups of commanders without worry because they were incredibly slow to react, but now they were all attacking together and being a lot more dangerous.
-Gibdos previously used their ranged howl about once in a blue moon. Today I saw them trying to hit me with it a ridiculous amount. It was mainly when I was fighting other enemies, as if they were actually using tactics.
-Enemy grunts trying to hit me when I stand next to them for more than a few seconds.
-Allied grunts actually hitting a boss rather than rubbing up against it like suicidal ants.

Gonna feel really dumb if nothings changed but my brother felt like they were a lot smarter as well.

Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Feb 7, 2015

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

mastajake posted:

Use a 5 star weapon with +fire. C4 repeatedly.

Which move is his C4? I see these terms being thrown around a lot but never connected to which move it is and it seems to easy to be like one little bit of animation out from doing one move or another that it's hard to tell which combo number each is.

Edit: As in, i have that weapon, and i think the C4 is the little pool of lava appearing around him, but i find that using that weapon with the "chucking a big rock" move seems to do a lot more clearing and damage to bosses big and small.

Theta Zero
Dec 22, 2014

I've seen it.
C# refers to the strong attack after # - 1 potential moments a strong attack could be used, starting with C1 for just pressing the strong attack button. They basically denote your finishing move for a combo.

For example, pressing BBY with the Zelda control scheme is C3. Just pressing Y without combing is a C1.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Theta Zero posted:

C# refers to the strong attack after # - 1 potential moments a strong attack could be used, starting with C1 for just pressing the strong attack button. They basically denote your finishing move for a combo.

For example, pressing BBY with the Zelda control scheme is C3. Just pressing Y without combing is a C1.

So which move is Darunia's C4?

hyperbowl
Mar 26, 2010
C4 has one less weak attack than the one with the lava circle. It's the one where the fire shoots off towards the horizon. You want to hit the strong attack button at some point during his third attack, the big right to left swing.

youtu.be/jO7DDQs9FEU?t=17s

hyperbowl fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Feb 7, 2015

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

"Mama Cucco is attacking all forces in a rage!" is the biggest god damned lie ever told

alcharagia posted:

Just played Ganondorf's Return, level owned, this game was worth the purchase just to play as Ganondorf.

My favourite part of those levels is Zant fawning over you every time you hit a kill milestone :allears:

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!
Just took my first step into Master Quest, Volga is loving insane god drat

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
Boom, 2 weapons left to collect. Lanas top right level 3 summoning gate and the bug girls level 3 umbrella in the top leftish side of the map.

Any good strategies for both? I've never used the summoning gate before.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
I was going to do the Termina map in the same order that you do the dungeons in Majora's Mask, but I guess that's a no-go because I hit a place in the swamp that needed the Goron Mask. Ah well.

EDIT: What use exactly is the Song of Time? It resets the map, but why would you want to do that?

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Twelve by Pies posted:

I was going to do the Termina map in the same order that you do the dungeons in Majora's Mask, but I guess that's a no-go because I hit a place in the swamp that needed the Goron Mask. Ah well.

EDIT: What use exactly is the Song of Time? It resets the map, but why would you want to do that?

I could assume it's just to kill a run if you completely run out of time, like you have 5 days left and have 15 or so squares. I have no idea otherwise v:shobon:v

As for the AI getting better I think it's largely the same (hard to tell past the sol cannons blasts anyway) but I have walked into rooms with like 7 moblins and a few gibdo's walking together. I just chalked it up to being the Termina map though.

ElegantFugue
Jun 5, 2012

Adam Bowen posted:

My Link is about 40 and everyone else is mostly below 20 so I am way down there. I like the first Adventure Mode well enough, just thought it would have been fun to branch into some of the other maps for a bit.

You certainly can at least peek into the other maps; I finished nearly a quarter/third of the TP map before the Adventure map. Just be prepared to run into some brick walls, and generally not have more than one or two viable paths for a while.

Kin posted:

Boom, 2 weapons left to collect. Lanas top right level 3 summoning gate and the bug girls level 3 umbrella in the top leftish side of the map.

Any good strategies for both? I've never used the summoning gate before.

ElegantFugue posted:

I THINK the order on Lana's Lv.3 Gate is,
1: Kill anything with a health bar in the small canyon tunnel where you start.
2: Head north and kill everything with a health bar EXCEPT Ghirahim, don't both with him at all beyond including him with the specials and combos. If he's alone, Ghirahim will be eaten alive by your troops.
3: Head directly south and jump off the ledge to get to the southern oasis, and take out the guy who is probably there.
4: Head to the southeast tunnel, kill the target(s) there.
5: Head back to southern oasis, and greet the huge cluster of troops with specials, magic/musou, Dodongo, Gohma, and Argorok. Basically throw anything you have, but reroll on a Manhandala. You don't need to kill EVERYTHING, figure out how many kills you need and then move on.
6: Go kill Link, picking up some extra KO's from the minions in his room as needed.

As always, bring a potion of your favorite flavor for an extra boost. I think I'm forgetting something though.
Summoning Gate is a cool but slow weapon. Use combos to get a specific monster summon, and Strong Attack to pop up a random monster. Each time you use Strong Attack, the summoned monster's head appears as a symbol under your special meter for a short time. Use the combo that summons that monster for an extra-powerful summon (C2 = Dodongo, C3 = Manhandala, C4 = Gohma, C5 = Argorok). Argorok and Gohma in particular are great for clearing large numbers of enemies quickly, which will be the main source of pressure on this stage.

Also probably worth noting that, as far as I can tell, any combo where Lana surrounds herself in a blue bubble has no hitboxes during the bubble part.

robot roll call
Mar 7, 2006

dance dance dance dance dance to the radio


BattleMaster posted:

"Mama Cucco is attacking all forces in a rage!" is the biggest god damned lie ever told

Oh my god dude seriously

I've been trying Lana's level 3 spear over and over. It's not a hard mission EXCEPT for the Cucco escort bullshit. It wastes so much time and I've had the little fucker spawn way down south and be almost dead by the time I got to him. God forbid he dies because then Mama glues herself to your rear end relentlessly and can gently caress your damage ranking in one hit. Oh, and I almost forgot the Manhandla stalks that show up in random keeps . I would have beat the mission on my last go but I was 100 damage over, which I figure is about one or two of the Manhandla blasts I took. Oh well. Soon.

Actually, on a related note is there a good way to get Midna to show her weak spot? She's not hard to fight, it just takes forever.

Tybolt
Jul 27, 2014
Did anyone ever figure out how to make that rupee glitch happen? I loving love this game, but I'm tired of dealing with damage sponge shield moblins and the giant bosses like King Dodongo who decide to take like five minutes to get ready to expose a weak point and I need to get the entire roster closer to my Link's level.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

So as I'm going through the adventure mode map, should I be more worried about just beating each stage and opening the entire map or should I be using items every time I unlock a new square and trying to get an A rank right then? It seems like it would be easier to go back and A rank maps once I unlock stuff later in the map/generally level up characters. Of course I can aim for an A rank whenever I play a stage, but I'm getting bogged down by not wanting to do certain stage because I don't have the items needed to unlock their hidden stuff.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

ElegantFugue posted:

You certainly can at least peek into the other maps; I finished nearly a quarter/third of the TP map before the Adventure map. Just be prepared to run into some brick walls, and generally not have more than one or two viable paths for a while.


Summoning Gate is a cool but slow weapon. Use combos to get a specific monster summon, and Strong Attack to pop up a random monster. Each time you use Strong Attack, the summoned monster's head appears as a symbol under your special meter for a short time. Use the combo that summons that monster for an extra-powerful summon (C2 = Dodongo, C3 = Manhandala, C4 = Gohma, C5 = Argorok). Argorok and Gohma in particular are great for clearing large numbers of enemies quickly, which will be the main source of pressure on this stage.

Also probably worth noting that, as far as I can tell, any combo where Lana surrounds herself in a blue bubble has no hitboxes during the bubble part.

Urgh, I still can't do it. I usually end up taking loads of damage from Impa or those lizards that bum rush your base after you beatty her. On top of that it takes so long to chip away at Link and Impa's health that I can never get it under the time.

I've got a 5* level 2 gate weapon with strength 3, 4 and 5 on it and my Lana is level 70. Do I need to bump her up to like 100 or something to make this easier? Or is there another skill I could add to me weapon?

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Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

So as I'm going through the adventure mode map, should I be more worried about just beating each stage and opening the entire map or should I be using items every time I unlock a new square and trying to get an A rank right then? It seems like it would be easier to go back and A rank maps once I unlock stuff later in the map/generally level up characters. Of course I can aim for an A rank whenever I play a stage, but I'm getting bogged down by not wanting to do certain stage because I don't have the items needed to unlock their hidden stuff.

You should be able to A rank most stages once you reach them unless you do a weapon stage out of order. You shouldn't worry about A ranking a stage unless you need too for either map progression or an important unlock though. Also don't waste your items on most squares though; the unlock is just a heart piece or container, which don't help much and aren't needed. Save your items for unlocking weapon and character stages.

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