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dis astranagant posted:the 120 kg mass (actually 125kg) comes from the fact that you get 8 of them per ton. Those pictures clearly show like a drum mag of many many shots. 
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Gwaihir posted:I like the rapid fire minigun style ammo feed for a weapon with 8 shots per TON of ammo. Ahhhh battletech, never change. I like how the heavy one has dual-feeds!
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Feb 7, 2015 07:51
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Saint Celestine posted:Those pictures clearly show like a drum mag of many many shots. The fluff has some instances where auto cannons, gauss rifles and the like fire more than one shot in a short amount of time, the cumulative impacts of a burst adds up to a single rounds shooting damage and the ammo necessary to fire it is lumped together into the one unit of ammo the mech is counted as expending. This varies from writer to writer.
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Feb 7, 2015 08:20
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Okay, so far we have: Kurita Front Line Option (Friar John) Davion Assault Option (Losanda) Pretty solid so far. If someone chooses the Long Tom the Wasp could spot for it I guess.
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Feb 7, 2015 13:13
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Saint Celestine posted:Those pictures clearly show like a drum mag of many many shots. Like Cable's many, many (empty?) pouches, I think we should chalk this up to 90's extravagance.
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Feb 7, 2015 13:21
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:The fluff has some instances where [...] gauss rifles [...] fire more than one shot in a short amount of time No it doesn't. The closest thing to an 'automatic' Gauss weapon is the Gauss SMG used by Clan security forces, although I suspect AP Gauss Rifles are also automatic since they do burst damage to infantry. Anything bigger has always been depicted as a single massive shot. VVV We're not talking about HAGs PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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Feb 7, 2015 13:31
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PoptartsNinja posted:No it doesn't. HAGs are described as an auto gauss in TechManual. And I'm not sure why you have to suspect AP Gauss being automatic when that's also right in the description. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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Feb 7, 2015 13:36
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dis astranagant posted:And I'm not sure why you have to suspect AP Gauss being automatic when that's also right in the description. Because it's 5:00AM and I'm at work. Standard Gauss Rifles have always been a single shot. I can't name a single instance in fluff of a standard Gauss firing like an automatic weapon even though there's likely nothing* other than power requirements actually stopping them from doing so. Edit: Nothing but their insane power requirements, anyway. Normal Gauss rifles are either horrifically inefficient or Vlad's Executioner was having engine troubles. 
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Feb 7, 2015 13:44
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The original publication has very little to say about them, too. The handful of units mounting them just go on about the need to keep from blowing up the capacitors.
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Feb 7, 2015 15:12
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Nah, it's not an ammo feed, that's a ribbon power cable. Have to keep it exposed to radiate the resistive heat buildup from shunting a few megawatts through in a fraction of a second. obviously
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There's a TRO entry for a tank that I'm trying to track down that says something along the lines of "the Gauss rifle has brought back the idea of a tank rolling up and destroying poo poo with a single shot just like when the Rifled Cannon was their main gun." Still looking. e: There are so many tanks to look through. Defiance Industries fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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Feb 7, 2015 18:39
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My favorite bit of Gauss Rifle fluff is that Yen Lo Wang's Gauss Rifle has a gravity feed. I can't help but imagining the mechanism being a bit like a gumball machine, but y'know what'd probably do as much damage to the charging coils as jamming an I-beam down the barrel? Dropping a 125kg slug the size of a football on them from the feed bins in the torso through the 2.5 or so meter drop through the upper arm.
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Feb 7, 2015 19:16
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PoptartsNinja posted:My favorite bit of Gauss Rifle fluff is that Yen Lo Wang's Gauss Rifle has a gravity feed. I can't help but imagining the mechanism being a bit like a gumball machine, but y'know what'd probably do as much damage to the charging coils as jamming an I-beam down the barrel? Dropping a 125kg slug the size of a football on them from the feed bins in the torso through the 2.5 or so meter drop through the upper arm. Ammo feeds in Battletech work using miniature wormholes, obviously. Anything else makes no sense. Why yes, the gun in the head is feed from ammo bins in the feet, this is a rational and efficient design why do you ask?
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ArchangeI posted:Ammo feeds in Battletech work using miniature wormholes, obviously. Anything else makes no sense. Why yes, the gun in the head is feed from ammo bins in the feet, this is a rational and efficient design why do you ask? no we'll just run an external feed line fro the bin there's no way this could go wrong
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Feb 7, 2015 20:20
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wiegieman posted:no we'll just run an external feed line fro the bin there's no way this could go wrong Or have it as a backpack like the Wolf Trap. God, what a terrible idea.
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Feb 7, 2015 20:43
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PoptartsNinja posted:My favorite bit of Gauss Rifle fluff is that Yen Lo Wang's Gauss Rifle has a gravity feed. I can't help but imagining the mechanism being a bit like a gumball machine, but y'know what'd probably do as much damage to the charging coils as jamming an I-beam down the barrel? Dropping a 125kg slug the size of a football on them from the feed bins in the torso through the 2.5 or so meter drop through the upper arm. Gumball machine ammo feed is an awesome mental image. All you need is a coin slot on the side! 25 Cents per shot!
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Feb 7, 2015 21:31
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PoptartsNinja posted:My favorite bit of Gauss Rifle fluff is that Yen Lo Wang's Gauss Rifle has a gravity feed. I can't help but imagining the mechanism being a bit like a gumball machine, but y'know what'd probably do as much damage to the charging coils as jamming an I-beam down the barrel? Dropping a 125kg slug the size of a football on them from the feed bins in the torso through the 2.5 or so meter drop through the upper arm.  Obviously the pressure of the falling slug is what sets off the firing sequence much like a hammer from an old wild west revolver coming down sets off the bullet, shell never hits the coils and instead gets magged forward at speed.
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Foulbrood has passed, Lord Koth is up as an actual participant! I still haven't heard from SolusLunes or Losanda, so sheepdodger and the Goon formerly known as Cis should both stand by just in case. And now you know why missions now call for more Alternates than actual players. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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Feb 7, 2015 23:49
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I give up. I can't find the line I was referencing and I can't read any more TRO pages about tanks.
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Feb 7, 2015 23:56
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Defiance Industries posted:I give up. I can't find the line I was referencing and I can't read any more TRO pages about tanks. I think it was a medium to heavy tank with that discription.
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Feb 8, 2015 00:00
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Probably something with only one Gauss Rifle. The Regulator, maybe?
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Feb 8, 2015 00:06
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PoptartsNinja posted:Probably something with only one Gauss Rifle. The Regulator, maybe? That was the very first entry I went to and it is not that one.
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Feb 8, 2015 00:08
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Check the Challenger X. I'm sure you have already, I just have... suspicions.
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PoptartsNinja posted:I still haven't heard from SolusLunes or Losanda, so sheepdodger and the Goon formerly known as Cis should both stand by just in case. Losanda wrote a fairly long piece of fluff about choosing the Davion Assault Option. So it sounds like he definitely knows he's in.
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Feb 8, 2015 00:47
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Z the IVth posted:Losanda wrote a fairly long piece of fluff about choosing the Davion Assault Option. So it sounds like he definitely knows he's in. ... But they didn't respond to the PM that asked them to respond to the PM?
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Feb 8, 2015 00:53
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PoptartsNinja posted:... PTN, we're goons. What are you expecting?
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the JJ posted:PTN, we're goons. What are you expecting? You should expect this: (from Eve):  Relevant: https://soundcloud.com/shutupandshave/gently caress-goons
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AtomikKrab posted:
Not quite this but close. A permanently charged superconductor electromagnet could indeed act as a cushion and align the shell perfectly for the rest of the coils to pick up and launch it. This is in fact the (strongly) recommended method of chamber a round for a coilgun/gauss gun for the simple reason that you don't need a barrel and you most certainly don't want you shell touching anything inside the gun while you're firing. A sufficiently strong magnetic field can hold the shell in place for the shot. Of course you don't use the shell entering said field as the trigger to fire, because that would mean a pretty substantial delay between pulling the trigger and the gun going off and nobody would want that. Right?
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PoptartsNinja posted:... Well if my personal experience during my turn is any benchmark, some goons can be pretty good at ignoring all sorts of important poo poo. I'm surprised you expected anything more. 
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Feb 8, 2015 02:45
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Nah, it's my own fault for putting a comma instead of a period in the final line. I made it look like I only wanted a quick response from someone who needed to pass their turn.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Foulbrood has passed, Lord Koth is up as an actual participant! So far, choices-wise, we have, what? 1 Kurita Front Line & 1 Davion Assault? Probably run either the Air Cav or Davion Recon then, though I'll take the Artillery if no one else chooses it, for better Could I get a quick rundown on VTOL movement though?
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Lord Koth posted:So far, choices-wise, we have, what? 1 Kurita Front Line & 1 Davion Assault? I did pick the Davion Assault because I think they are the best match to body guard the Artillery (turrets and armor) while I can spot with the Wasp. Once. Someone better pick that bloody Big Bertha! PTN: PM is out, I got the last line wrong, sorry for the delay.
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Basically VTOLs go very fast but you have to spend MP changing elevation up or down. This is because if you are at height 0 and enter a woods hex, for example, or run into a height 1 hill, you crash. If you were at 2 height, though, you cruise right over. You dig?
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You can also get PSR's from various things, and failing them causes you to lose height and slide, just like a tank or mech. If you happen to crash into the ground or slide into a forest, bad things happen.
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I'm looking for some tank advice. I've never played battle tech before, so with the two choices we already have what should I pick that will be newbie friendly without skewing the team makeup?
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Anti-Aircraft might be a good option. Someone is going to have to deal with those Donars, and none of the three vehicles in the set are particularly hard to use. vv Edit: Yeah, the Manticores are a good option too. They're nicely balanced. Scintilla fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Feb 8, 2015 |
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You can't go wrong with picking more of the Manticore option if you're feeling skittish - it's pretty newbie-friendly, has good range, and has the lowest BV, meaning you chip away at the number of units PTN can bring to the party. You're slow as dirt, but frankly that's to be expected with IS tanks; the main battle force is going to want to advance in concert and work together, and in that area being slow actually helps a little bit, given that it discourages you from running off into suicide/kamikaze missions.
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You probably can't go wrong with a second Kurita frontline option. Add in the Davion Assault and some lighter options (and perhaps a Long Tom) and you have a nicely-rounded force.
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It sounds like most of the other players are going to stick with the heavier tanks, so I'm leaning towards either the Davion Recon option or the Hover Assault option. Gotta go fast.
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hooman posted:I'm looking for some tank advice. I've never played battle tech before, so with the two choices we already have what should I pick that will be newbie friendly without skewing the team makeup? The AAA team is really solid!
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