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Soricidus posted:seriously can we have that revolution sooner rather than later, please? well the Florida Republican Party is in open revolt against him as he's currently getting pilloried for using the florida department of law enforcement as a bludgeon against people he doesn't like (causing its head to go into forced retirement as he refused to go along with it) and maybe this investigation will own him unlike the other 50
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also dc won't appeal to any startup dumbasses because there is no end of people in the region that take great glee in pointing out doubletalk and crushing mindless optimism. not to mention that many of the industries they want to "disrupt" have extremely heavy lobbying presence and the connections to make running a business a never ending string of mysteriously disappearing paperwork and building leases not being renewed. it's a bit like deciding to protest a murderous despot outside the building his firing squads live and train.
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Feb 7, 2015 19:41
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Shifty Pony posted:also dc won't appeal to any startup dumbasses because there is no end of people in the region that take great glee in pointing out doubletalk and crushing mindless optimism. lol yes no doubletalk in dc startups like places with lots of talent with current skills, with a bonus of cheaper labor/real estate than SF while theres a lot of it employment in the area, six and a half figgy cobol developers who produce 10 pages of memos per 1 line of code and northrup's hpux administrators with twenty page ITIL compliant change request forms are anathema to treps im sure dc would like to diversify so they arent detroit but with gov/mil instead of cars but lol
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Jonny 290 posted:hahaha, car commuter spotted. lolno, i walk to work (at least when it's not -10 degrees out with three feet of snow on the ground) weekends don't magically turn city streets and highways into sweet racecourses where speed limits don't apply, though. maybe it's different out in fuckshit nowhere, but if you're in or near a city, the only use you have for zero-to-sixty performance is having to wait for less of a traffic gap before making a left turn Shifty Pony posted:also dc won't appeal to any startup dumbasses because there is no end of people in the region that take great glee in pointing out doubletalk and crushing mindless optimism. startups do all that poo poo already, except they don't even bother with the connections and just bet on being able to get enough voters on their side for a bespoke custom law before the court system catches up to them on the other hand, you've gotta be hopelessly naive to think that startup jackasses have any interest in moving to a place with more black people than whites and asians combined
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Feb 7, 2015 20:32
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PCjr sidecar posted:startups like places with lots of talent with current skills, with a bonus of cheaper labor/real estate than SF this does not describe dc at all. it's as expensive as sf with a much smaller pool of tech people it's not an accident that most dc software firms are verticals serving govt and defense. catering to local industries is about the only reason you would want to start any kind of a business in the dc area
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Feb 7, 2015 20:49
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this theory does not, however, explain livingsocial does dc have some special advantage for small business loansharking?
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Feb 7, 2015 20:50
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PCjr sidecar posted:lol yes no doubletalk in dc i never said there wasn't doubletalk in dc. nobody better than the masters of the craft to call out amateur hour poo poo like calling jitney cabs ridesharing. Notorious b.s.d. posted:this does not describe dc at all. it's as expensive as sf with a much smaller pool of tech people which is what makes their decision to spend $500k at SXSW even more puzzling. very clearly fad chasing and I can't wait for SXSW to implode with the bubble.
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Feb 7, 2015 20:51
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I still don't get why SXSW became so popular for tech poo poo when it was originally just a bunch of lovely bands playing at different bars?
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Feb 7, 2015 20:55
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triple sulk posted:I still don't get why SXSW became so popular for tech poo poo when it was originally just a bunch of lovely bands playing at different bars? bubblers like to pretend they're down and with it with festival culture, see burning man
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Feb 7, 2015 20:58
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triple sulk posted:I still don't get why SXSW became so popular for tech poo poo when it was originally just a bunch of lovely bands playing at different bars? it started with cd-rom "multimedia" poo poo in the 1990s. they thought it would be edgy and cool to have that poo poo adjacent to their experimental music festival people actually thought 320x240 clips with "interactive" bits were gonna be the dominant medium of the 21st century. there were cd-rom "multimedia" "magazines" and poo poo obviously all of that stuff is gone, but the pretentious fucks who birthed it are still there
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Feb 7, 2015 21:02
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triple sulk posted:I still don't get why SXSW became so popular for tech poo poo when it was originally just a bunch of lovely bands playing at different bars?
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Feb 7, 2015 21:13
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:this does not describe dc at all. it's as expensive as sf with a much smaller pool of tech people yes, thats why i said it
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Feb 7, 2015 21:13
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PCjr sidecar posted:im sure dc would like to diversify so they arent detroit but with gov/mil instead of cars but lol the only time gov/mil bubble is going to pop is with some nuclear bombs buddy.
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Feb 7, 2015 21:54
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Mr. Apollo posted:twitter did a thing at sxsw in 2007 when they first launched so now everyone thinks that to be a successful startup you need to show up at sxsw I know Twitter was there, just can't loving believe that companies still feel the need to do it, nevermind that Twitter is in the Shitter!!!!
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Feb 7, 2015 21:56
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Nintendo Kid posted:the only time gov/mil bubble is going to pop is with some nuclear bombs buddy. exactly i'm sure the most recession-proof city in the nation is scrambling to retool
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:exactly tell it to victims of the sequester...
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Shifty Pony posted:also dc won't appeal to any startup dumbasses because there is no end of people in the region that take great glee in pointing out doubletalk and crushing mindless optimism. yeah exactly. there's a lot of money here it's just accessed differently. you get it by being by being cynical beyond human recognition and cold until you're measured in kelvin. not by getting high off your own farts. it's just as terrible here, just terrible in a different kind of way. PCjr sidecar posted:im sure dc would like to diversify so they arent detroit but with gov/mil instead of cars but lol lmao no. dc ain't going anywhere without taking the rest of the world down with it.
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Feb 7, 2015 22:06
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Nintendo Kid posted:the only time gov/mil bubble is going to pop is with some nuclear bombs buddy. i've got a great startup idea, it's like uber but for drone strikes
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Feb 7, 2015 22:16
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:tell it to victims of the sequester...
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uber launching in-app 'panic button' in india
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Feb 7, 2015 22:28
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DC is covered with non-government tech. Amazon, wikimedia, every single teclo / computer hardware / networking / OS company has offices. Oracle, SAP, verisign, hell even thinkgeek is based here. It's not really wall-to-wall government contracting. There's a lot, but it's not even a major percentage of the overall tech industry.
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Feb 7, 2015 22:31
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ruby idiot railed posted:uber launching in-app 'panic button' in india
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Bhodi posted:DC is covered with non-government tech. Amazon, wikimedia, every single teclo / computer hardware / networking / OS company has offices. Oracle, SAP, verisign, hell even thinkgeek is based here. *coughlobbyingcough*
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Feb 7, 2015 22:33
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Nah, all this is outside the beltway. No lobbyist is going to live out past the beltway in DC and commute in, not with traffic the way it is. Lobbyists have separate offices actually in the district. VVV not anymore, Mae East got moved to Loudoun.
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the entire internet runs through fairfax, va, so all the telecoms do lots of work here, too
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Bhodi posted:DC is covered with non-government tech. Amazon, wikimedia, every single teclo / computer hardware / networking / OS company has offices. Oracle, SAP, verisign, hell even thinkgeek is based here. theres definitely a tech culture around dc, its just the exact opposite of the entrepreneurial/disruptive/app 3.0 economy nonsense that the bay area currently incubates and that sxsw is supposedly promoting
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True, pretty sure the startup bullshit would get laughed out of the region. People just won't deal with that poo poo, kind of like NY. I suspect it's a east coast / west coast culture thing but I dunno since I've never worked on the west coast. Here's something funny, though. Startup in Utah has a 32 hour workweek: quote:Treehouse is closed every Friday. The 80-and-counting employees work a 32-hour work week Monday through Thursday. On Fridays, employees are expected to be home, with their families, having fun, doing something, anything, other than work. And is, if course, soundly mocked by all other startups: quote:Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer has said she worked 130 hours a week at Google. And in a post that went viral, Michael Arrington, founder of TechCrunch and now a tech investor, wrote: “Startups are hard. So work more, cry less, and quit all the whining.” quote:“It’s really about survival,” said McDerment, CEO of FreshBooks, a cloud-based accounting software firm. “It’s this kind of us-against-the -world mentality. You’re competing with multibillion-dollar companies that want to crush you out of existence. You have to work your rear end off just to survive until tomorrow.” quote:The four-day schedule actually cost Treehouse one of its initial investors. “He said, ‘I don’t think you’re serious,’ ” Carson said. “I said, ‘Thanks for being honest, but I’ll prove you wrong.’ ”
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Bhodi posted:DC is covered with non-government tech. Amazon, wikimedia, every single teclo / computer hardware / networking / OS company has offices. Oracle, SAP, verisign, hell even thinkgeek is based here. even thinkgeek, with its meaty technical challenges? what a pedigree.
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Since there's basically a 100% chance of something they sell sitting in your office right now, I sort of thought they qualified.
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Bhodi posted:And is, if course, soundly mocked by all other startups: i really hope that's not true marissa because there are only 168 hours in a week
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computer parts posted:i really hope that's not true marissa because there are only 168 hours in a week How'd she do it? By being clinically insane
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computer parts posted:i really hope that's not true marissa because there are only 168 hours in a week that leaves her like 4 whole hours a night to sleep. that's PLENTY
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Feb 7, 2015 22:49
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Funny that Marissa is mocking a company for their practices when she's actively doing a great job at running one into the ground
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Bhodi posted:Since there's basically a 100% chance of something they sell sitting in your office right now, I sort of thought they qualified. even if that were true, it's like saying Frito-Lay is a tech company because people have them on their computer desks (they probably have more interesting tech challenges than thinkgeek, though)
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Bhodi posted:How'd she do it? By being clinically insane Jesus Christ quote:When Mayer suspects an employee might burn out, she asks them to find their rhythm. They've come back with, "I need to be home for Tuesday night dinners," or "I need to be on time for my daughter's soccer games." She grants those needs--no exceptions.
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Sagebrush posted:Jesus Christ
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the end goal of startups is employees working 120 hours a week eating soylent
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kalstrams posted:only its sensible and okay? (i assume they get their jobe done in other time) you misunderstand. the implied continuation of that thought is "Jesus Christ, she's a loving nazi if she thinks that 'being home to eat dinner with your family' or 'attending your kid's soccer game' is an abnormal request that requires special boss permission"
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