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also lol @ the article saying "your special requirement might be getting 8 hours of sleep a night, or going to yoga once a week" because i guess maintaining the bare minimum of personal health and fitness is now a la-dee-da look-at-me-putting-myself-above-the-company selfish move??
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kalstrams posted:only its sensible and okay? (i assume they get their jobe done in other time) agree, I do the same thing. hire adults, treat them like adults, fire the ones who turn out to not be adults otoh, I've never been asked to be the CEO of anything as big as Yahoo
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Sagebrush posted:you misunderstand. the implied continuation of that thought is "Jesus Christ, she's a loving nazi if she thinks that 'being home to eat dinner with your family' or 'attending your kid's soccer game' is an abnormal request that requires special boss permission"
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it's not about it needing boss permission, it's the boss being explicit that it's a priority to be honored, to counteract peer and social pressure to stay late or whatever. or: it's not about alleviating someone's fear that they're breaking a rule, it's about alleviating their fear that they'll be judged as "not a team player" for making that choice. it's the same reason I always make people file the maximum parental leave status, even if they can change it later: I don't want them to feel it'll be held against them if they decide to take more than the subset they originally planned. Subjunctive fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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Subjunctive posted:it's not about it needing boss permission, it's the boss being explicit that it's a priority to be honored, to counteract peer and social pressure to stay late or whatever. i particularly like the part where she is the one who is applying that pressure in the first place by setting 130 hour weeks as the standard for "hard work"
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Subjunctive posted:it's not about it needing boss permission, it's the boss being explicit that it's a priority to be honored, to counteract peer and social pressure to stay late or whatever.
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lol if your workplace is so toxic that people get poo poo on for going home to spend time with their families unless the boss explicitly says to be nice i don't even have a family to go home to, so i'm a prime candidate for bitterness, and i have zero problem with my colleagues checking out at 5pm on the dot and being out of contact until 9am monday. that's called health
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oh yeah i just realized we're not talking about european workplaces here
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Soricidus posted:i particularly like the part where she is the one who is applying that pressure in the first place by setting 130 hour weeks as the standard for "hard work" note: 130 hour workweek makes it literally impossible to achieve either 8 hours of sleep a night, or going to yoga once a week, or going to your kid's soccer game, or eating dinner with your family, let alone any of those things together
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Subjunctive posted:or: it's not about alleviating someone's fear that they're breaking a rule, it's about alleviating their fear that they'll be judged as "not a team player" for making that choice. "sure, sweetie, you can go home to your family. hey, email me those changes to the document when you get the chance. i'll be in my office between 6am and 2am 7 days a week so whenever is good. no, i don't look down on you at all!"
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personally i'm quite fond of my 37-hour work week (with contractual overtime if i'm required to do longer hours). i could earn more at a company that expected 80+ hours w/o overtime but why would i want to spend my entire waking life at work
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in corporate japan, the expectation is that you be at work before your boss and leave after he leaves, and he has the same expectation with his bosses, and so on up the chain. salarymen live at work. i'm sure everyone knows this. it's so bad now that canon had to implement a mandatory "go home and have sex with your wife" program when subsets of employees are barred from entering the building for a day, because it wasn't happening otherwise. but i'm sure the 80+ hour startup culture is totally healthy and sustainable
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Sagebrush posted:corporate japan  i remember reading about ncsoft's (bideojames i played as teen) office in russian gaming magazine. office, supermarkets, sport centres, parks, kindergartens, living halls - same one building.
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kalstrams posted:
chinese state owned enterprises would do this and called them "cradle to grave" workplaces
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Sagebrush posted:in corporate japan, the expectation is that you be at work before your boss and leave after he leaves, and he has the same expectation with his bosses, and so on up the chain. salarymen live at work. i'm sure everyone knows this. it's so bad now that canon had to implement a mandatory "go home and have sex with your wife" program when subsets of employees are barred from entering the building for a day, because it wasn't happening otherwise. pictured: graph of japanese birth vs death rate
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Sagebrush posted:in corporate japan, the expectation is that you be at work before your boss and leave after he leaves, and he has the same expectation with his bosses, and so on up the chain. salarymen live at work. i'm sure everyone knows this. it's so bad now that canon had to implement a mandatory "go home and have sex with your wife" program when subsets of employees are barred from entering the building for a day, because it wasn't happening otherwise. this is the end goal of corporate America
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Necc0 posted:yeah exactly. there's a lot of money here it's just accessed differently. you get it by being by being cynical beyond human recognition and cold until you're measured in kelvin. not by getting high off your own farts. it's just as terrible here, just terrible in a different kind of way. what I find interesting about living in DC is that while people act that way to acquaintances and strangers, friendships are tight as hell.
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people being cynical and aloof to strangers but friendly to their friends? woow that sure does sound like a thing unique to washington dc
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Sagebrush posted:people being cynical and aloof to strangers but friendly to their friends? woow that sure does sound like a thing unique to washington dc replace aloof with being assholes and that's basically the inverse of the south
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Bhodi posted:DC is covered with non-government tech. Amazon, wikimedia, every single teclo / computer hardware / networking / OS company has offices. Oracle, SAP, verisign, hell even thinkgeek is based here. what do you think oracle, redhat, sap, mcafee, etc are all doing there? i worked at oracle for a bit and it was almost entirely government consulting. my old roommate was at red hat and they were doing almost entirely government consulting. monster is actually across the parking lot from my office though. i don't think they do government consulting anyways my point is what brings in the money is primarily government money and everything else follows from that. the reason there are other non-government oriented tech companies here is because there's so much talent already concentrated here because of the federales. if the fed somehow went bye-bye (lol) then you'd see all the private stuff dry up as well. and you're not gonna change the momentum of the beltway bandit juggernaut with a few internet cafes Necc0 fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Feb 8, 2015 |
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Endless Mike posted:the entire internet runs through fairfax, va, so all the telecoms do lots of work here, too people are always blown away by my 5 ping in cs:go matchmaking 
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Bhodi posted:I suspect it's a east coast / west coast culture thing but I dunno since I've never worked on the west coast. it's exactly this. i wish i had a dollar for every time a local recruiter told me about how their particular sub-contracting company totally gets the west coast culture and no seriously we're all sooo laid back here it's great and they're all wearing the same slacks and button downs standard issue business casual plugging away in their assigned cubicles working 8-5. its funny because i work in the same building as palantir who as far as i know are they only *actual* west coasters and everyone around here looks at them like they're from another planet west coast culture will never, ever, come to the east coast. we may as well be separate countries.
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dc is the ultimate bubble it's been boom-towning for decades and will never stop
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Necc0 posted:people are always blown away by my 5 ping in cs:go matchmaking wuts ur rank bro
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Necc0 posted:dc is the ultimate bubble it's been boom-towning for decades and will never stop it's because they're armed thugs stealing all our money use bitcoin
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BONGHITZ posted:wuts ur rank bro DMG i could make eagle but i just dont have the time / will it requires
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House beside mine just went up on the rental market. 1200 ft.², 2 br 1 ba, garage. $4000/mo 
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Shifty Pony posted:what I find interesting about living in DC is that while people act that way to acquaintances and strangers, friendships are tight as hell. yeah this is what i've heard. it's fun to visit and go out in dc and fun after you've met people, but the first ~year can be pretty rough. like everyone is cold and judgmental about who you work for and whatnot until they really know you.
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Sagebrush posted:House beside mine just went up on the rental market. 1200 ft.², 2 br 1 ba, garage. $4000/mo lmao
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Sagebrush posted:people being cynical and aloof to strangers but friendly to their friends? woow that sure does sound like a thing unique to washington dc grew up in South Carolina and... computer parts posted:replace aloof with being assholes and that's basically the inverse of the south
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Sagebrush posted:House beside mine just went up on the rental market. 1200 ft.², 2 br 1 ba, garage. $4000/mo jesus where do i apply?
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Necc0 posted:it's exactly this. i wish i had a dollar for every time a local recruiter told me about how their particular sub-contracting company totally gets the west coast culture and no seriously we're all sooo laid back here it's great and they're all wearing the same slacks and button downs standard issue business casual plugging away in their assigned cubicles working 8-5. its funny because i work in the same building as palantir who as far as i know are they only *actual* west coasters and everyone around here looks at them like they're from another planet well I was told this by a recruiter once and it totally jived with the "the workload is extreme and they offer like no holidays ever while expecting you to work weekends because there's 40 people who can replace you at a moment's notice" I read about the place online the engineering manager at the place I start at next week said that too 
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ultramiraculous posted:jesus where do i apply? the best part is that the current owners inherited it from the 95 year old lady who lived there until she died last year, and because it was an inheritance transfer they can continue to pay the same $500/yr property tax she did in 1955 or whatever bc gov. reagan NO TAX INCREASES EVER. they've put about five thousand dollars of new paint and carpet in it and are now sitting on $47,500/yr with zero effort, simply by fleecing young families and the like isn't america great
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Sagebrush posted:the best part is that the current owners inherited it from the 95 year old lady who lived there until she died last year, and because it was an inheritance transfer they can continue to pay the same $500/yr property tax she did in 1955 or whatever bc gov. reagan NO TAX INCREASES EVER. they've put about five thousand dollars of new paint and carpet in it and are now sitting on $47,500/yr with zero effort, simply by fleecing young families and the like just one more thing making it lovely to live in sf so its a good thing
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quote:Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer has said she worked 130 hours a week at Google. And in a post that went viral, Michael Arrington, founder of TechCrunch and now a tech investor, wrote: “Startups are hard. So work more, cry less, and quit all the whining.” i dated a lawyer who used to bill for dreams she had about clients, maybe she read the same book as marissa
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Necc0 posted:west coast culture will never, ever, come to the east coast. we may as well be separate countries. i don't know why it's so hard for the east to understand the west. they jus tneed to lighten up, you know?
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the talent deficit posted:i dated a lawyer who used to bill for dreams she had about clients, maybe she read the same book as marissa the fountainhead?
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the talent deficit posted:i dated a lawyer who used to bill for dreams she had about clients, maybe she read the same book as marissa that owns
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the talent deficit posted:i dated a lawyer who used to bill for dreams she had about clients, maybe she read the same book as marissa if theyre stealing my dreams im fuckin billin them for it gently caress it
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Just popping in to say that I'm a tech for a telco/ISP, and my job is to cater to the company's highest paying customers. These include a car title loan company (you know, the ones banned in half the US where a 500% APR isn't uncommon) and HCA. Last month the company announced it was disrupting employment for like 5 of our centers around the country 
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